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Joe Biden Just Appointed His Climate Movement Liaison. It’s a Fossil-Fuel Industry Ally.

basketcase

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Hey, if Biden comes out tomorrow and promotes Medicare for all, or ends a war, refuses to sign a large increase to the military budget, or any number of things that would help people I would give him props.

But he won't, will he?
The guy in question is a progressive which you should like. he's campaigned on expanded healthcare, voting rights, and criminal justice reform. The down side is the amount of donation's he's taken from the oil industry.

 

basketcase

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...However simply moving to a Universal Medicare system with solve so many problems that I will consider that an even bigger success than any war ending.
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I doubt that anyone in the US can accomplish it unfortunately. Considering Biden a failure for not getting it done isn't a reasonable stance.

And considering the many statements you've made pre-judging Biden, it's funny to see you pretend to be open minded.
 

basketcase

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Looked up the Richmond guy. He seems a mixed bag.

But, as I suspected, Sirota misrepresented the situation. The Office of Public Engagement isn't the climate movement liaison. It is a clearing house that does outreach for external issues i general. Yes, it will talk to climate activists and businesses. It will also do that with anti-gun violence activists and the gun industry. It is basically the "here is a policy, you are outside government and want to make your point - this office handles meeting you".
It's not like putting a home schooling advocate in charge of public education or putting a coal lobbiest in charge of the EPA.
 

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I doubt that anyone in the US can accomplish it unfortunately. Considering Biden a failure for not getting it done isn't a reasonable stance.

And considering the many statements you've made pre-judging Biden, it's funny to see you pretend to be open minded.
He isnt even trying. And in fact on the campaign trail clearly stated if it did pass the House and Senate he would still veto it. So he is a legit target for criticism.

That is a clear right wing pro corporate stance.
 

Valcazar

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Kamala Harris is a POS as well
In what way?

The guy in question is a progressive which you should like. he's campaigned on expanded healthcare, voting rights, and criminal justice reform. The down side is the amount of donation's he's taken from the oil industry.
Facts are irrelevant. He is a Democrat, and not on the right team. Therefore he is compromised and corrupt.

It's not like putting a home schooling advocate in charge of public education or putting a coal lobbiest in charge of the EPA.
No. And it is like putting someone who has a history of good relations with gun control activists and activists dealing with race and race relations.
Almost like you need to choose which set of activists you prioritize when choosing the person in charge of the office that all kinds of activists talk to.
The Office isn't the Climate Liaison office and doesn't set climate policy.

He isn't president yet.
Don't confuse Butler with points about the specifics of the system .
He is still struggling with trying to convince people Biden said he would veto any universal healthcare plan that was passed.