Hockey Hall of Fame

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Given his scoring heroics during the Summit Series, how is it Henderson has not been voted into the Hockey Hall of Fame? Does the scorer of the winning goals in the final three games of this precedent-setting and historic hockey event really not deserve HHOF inclusion?

It is not the Hockey Hall of Lifetime Achievement. It is the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Others have taken note. Henderson’s winning goal in Game Eight was voted “sports moment of the century” by The Canadian Press. Henderson has been inducted into the Canadian Sports Hall of Fame twice, as an individual as well as with the players of the Summit Series.

In 2013, Henderson was inducted into the International Ice Hockey Federation Hall of Fame.

Henderson was made a Member of the Order of Canada in 2012 and two years later a Member of the Order of Ontario. Yet somehow he is not deemed worthy of inclusion into the Hockey Hall of Fame.

On Oct. 3, 1989, Vladislav Tretiak was inducted into the HHOF. Make sense?

Henderson's heroics are in the Hall of Fame...big display and lots of recognition for that month in 1972.

And you're wrong, a player's induction is more of a Lifetime Achievement and Henderson's career was very average.

Tretiak accomplished way more than Henderson in his career.

 

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Neither did the twin sisters.

The Sedins had better careers than Paul Henderson by a massive amount, at both the NHL and International level.

 

[netsurfer]

Paul Henderson didn't have a Hall of Fame career...

But he is more famous than many who are in.

 

[GameBoy27]

Paul Henderson didn't have a Hall of Fame career...

It's the Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of Fame Career...

 

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It's the Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of Fame Career...

That's wrong, a player gets inducted for his career...

 

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But he is more famous than many who are in.

So is Sheldon Kennedy...

 

[GameBoy27]

So is Sheldon Kennedy...

Bad comparison...

 

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Bad comparison...

Just making a point…being well known doesn’t make you a Hall of Famer.

 

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Just making a point…being well known doesn’t make you a Hall of Famer.

One's well known for being sexually abused and the other for scoring the goal of the century, being in the Canadian Sports Hall of Fame (twice) and also the International Ice Hockey Federation Hall of Fame.

 

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It's the Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of Fame Career...

It's called the Hall of FAME, but I'd be willing to bet that being "famous" is not one of the criteria listed to be worthy of induction.

OK, I looked up what attributes are required for induction.

Category	Attributes
Player	Playing ability, sportsmanship, character and contributions to his or her team or teams and to the game of hockey in general.

My above statement holds. Fame is not a required element to be in the Hall of Fame.

 

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One's well known for being sexually abused and the other for scoring the goal of the century, being in the Canadian Sports Hall of Fame (twice) and also the International Ice Hockey Federation Hall of Fame.

The International Ice Hockey Federation Hall of fame is a Who's Who's of Who cares...Uwe Krupp is in.

 

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I’ll approve of Paul Henderson going into Hall of Fame if they kick Guy Carbonneau out.

 

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I’ll approve of Paul Henderson going into Hall of Fame if they kick Guy Carbonneau out.

LOL!

What about Gainey?

 

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LOL!

What about Gainey?

Take Zubov out. How is he in the HHOF?

 

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It's called the Hall of FAME, but I'd be willing to bet that being "famous" is not one of the criteria listed to be worthy of induction.

OK, I looked up what attributes are required for induction.

Category	Attributes
Player	Playing ability, sportsmanship, character and contributions to his or her team or teams and to the game of hockey in general.

My above statement holds. Fame is not a required element to be in the Hall of Fame.

Are you saying Paul Henderson wasn't a good hockey player, lacked sportsmanship and didn't contribute to his teams and to the game of hockey in general?

As for stats, let's compare some of his to that of Henrik and Daniel Sedin.

Henrik Sedin: NHL Games 1330 - Goals per Game 0.181 - Game Winning Goals 38 - In HOF
Daniel Sedin: NHL Games 1306 - Goals per Game 0.300 - Game Winning Goals 86 - In HOF
Paul Henderson: NHL Games 707 - Goals per Game 0.338 - Game Winning Goals 40 - Not in HOF

They all have the same number of Stanley Cups.

 

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Are you saying Paul Henderson wasn't a good hockey player, lacked sportsmanship and didn't contribute to his teams and to the game of hockey in general?

As for stats, let's compare some of his to that of Henrik and Daniel Sedin.

Henrik Sedin: NHL Games 1330 - Goals per Game 0.181 - Game Winning Goals 38 - In HOF
Daniel Sedin: NHL Games 1306 - Goals per Game 0.300 - Game Winning Goals 86 - In HOF
Paul Henderson: NHL Games 707 - Goals per Game 0.338 - Game Winning Goals 40 - Not in HOF

They all have the same number of Stanley Cups.

Those are some pretty selective stats. Lets choose some different parameters.

What happens when you do points per game? To make the HOF as a forward and only 477 career points in that era is mediocre at best. That's .607/game. Most points in a season was 60. Daniel scored over 1,000 points, approx .71 ppg. Daniel produced at a higher rate for a much longer time. He had almost double the number of games played.

How many times was he selected a 1st or 2nd team all-star at the end of a season? I didn't look it up but it's probably a big fat 0. The most points he ever got in a season was 60.

Daniel made a 1st and a 2nd team all-star, won the Art Ross as the leading scorer and was voted league MVP by his fellow players (Ted Lindsay award).

I suspect that there's not many guys in the HOF who played less than 10 seasons worth of games, for their era.

I was a Paul Henderson fan but aside from '72, his playing career doesn't come close to Daniel. As Vince Carter said, "It's over".

But Paul Henderson was a standout in terms of character.

 

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The Russian 5 and they still had Shanahan, Yzerman, and Lidstrom

 

[Indiana]

Let’s also the. add John Ogrodnick, Rick Kehoe, Mike Bullard, Charlie Simmer, Al Secord, Guy Chouinard, Danny Gare, Jacques Richard, Wayne Babych, Hakan Loob, Dennis Maruk, Brian Bellows, Pierre Larouche, Blaine Stoughton, Stephane Richer. They scored 50 as well and some multiple times.

Many guys scored 50 goals in the bloated goal scoring era of the late 70s and 1980s. Many of those above on not very good teams. Scoring 50 at that time was nothing hall worthy in itself.

You can’t compare stats from the 1980s to the 2000s and 2010s. Team scoring was 40% higher in many of those years.

How about Guy Larose!