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He has been president since Jan. 20. Anybody who says that what he's done from Jan.20, 2021 to Jan. 27, 2021 qualifies him as best prez ever is insane. Anybody who believes that anybody else thinks that, is also insane.

Give a quote in between those dates and refencing those dates. Otherwise stifle it.
You're going to judge a man on a 7 day basis????

He was VP for 8 years. That dont mean shit today, right?

This man has the opportunity to fuck up the world in less than a month at the rate he's going never mind in just 8 days!
 

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He has been president since Jan. 20. Anybody who says that what he's done from Jan.20, 2021 to Jan. 27, 2021 qualifies him as best prez ever is insane. Anybody who believes that anybody else thinks that, is also insane.

Give a quote in between those dates and refencing those dates. Otherwise stifle it.
He is the "best" president. One week and he issued 33 executive actions, including 21 Executive Orders. He is ruling like a dictator. Oh wait, that name is only reserved for Trump who issued 4, Obama 5, Dubya 0, Clinton 1. Give the man a Noble Prize or something.
 

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I'll help you a little. One, don't trust the numbers coming from totalitarian regimes that are geopolitical enemies of the west and, in one case, is responsible for the virus itself. Two, don't trust the numbers of a country which is still rooted in a class system and has tenous control over its huge population, and has many public health issues compared to western nations.



Claiming something is "worst" when you don't have reliable stats is intellectually dishonest. It reflects the analysis you'd like to be true. As to the American numbers, States and even individual hospitals have different ways of recording Covid deaths, thus the controversy between "died from Covid vs. died with Covid. And that's before you even get to trying to determine if there is even any excess mortality in 2020 and if there is, how statistically significant it is.


It's easier for me to prove your statement is dishonest than it would be to prove Trump lied. "People died"? Yes, one unarmed occupier was shot, unnecessarily it would appear, by a capitol officer. One officer was killed in, as yet, not fully understood circumstances. 2 died from poor health and the excitement of the day and one died of vaguely reported injuries in the crush of the crowd (like at many football games and rock concerts). Misleading, at best.

It's pretty ironic that the fight to remove the Nazi Trump has resulted in the election of a smiling, dottering, figurehead who supports so many restrictions on civil liberties.
Dutch the points you make are often not directly addressing the issues. I didnt trust the totalitarian states. I trusted the numbers in the democracies. The US response and fatalities are far above and beyond the others. And the metrics are compared similarly. That's what Hopkins and the CDC do, thus the die from or with is moot unless countries use different standards. And if you look at the excess deaths statistics for USA it is significantly higher than any chance fluctuation. Thus its not just a convenient label. The idea as well of arguing that a single loose fact means all the facts are wrong is also an error in reasoning. The creationists argue that there is not a direct intermediary form between two species, this does not prove creationism is right. And not trusting the data from Russia or China does not mean they had more fatalities than USA.

As far as worst response, maybe you're right (although im looking at you Bolsonaro). But again, I don't admire totalitarian states, thus I consider what informed scientists and people of knowledge do, and know what to do, and to see a country shit itself and actively discard that knowledge and work against it...beyond shocking. Back in Oz my rellies are back out on the beaches and enjoying life, albeit in smaller groups and indoor masks in work places. Thus, going from AVAILABLE data, my statement is still correct. I think your definition of intellectually honest would mean never disclose nor make policy because one would never have the absolute level of certainty that seems to be required to move forward or make changes. But you're right, it was a value statement.

Also, people did die. Thus when i say people died, they did. You may not find it relevant or important. I do. And it did happen. Thus it is not misleading. And, my opinion is many more would have had the congresspeople not escaped. People shouting to hang Pence and kill Pelosi. Equipped with zip ties and stun guns. Setting up the scaffold to hang as in the Turner diaries. Just out having fun. Stealing stuff and shitting in the halls. All based on an unproven alllegation made before the actual vote was even taken. By the same bloke who made the same allegation in 2016, both vs Hilary and again when he lost a primary to Cruz.

And so dottering figurehead are your own opinions and there is no data to suggest someone else is pushing his agenda (which he ran on, and defeated all other Dems on). And its not what I've seen, although I'll agree he lost a step from 2008. Previous bloke was entirely shit for brains conman. Current bloke knows how govt actually works. Trusts science. Knows to hire good qualified people and let them handle their portfolios. That's how you run an effective large organisation. Surrounding yourself with yes men and presuming you know more than anyone on any topic is exactly how not to. Again, as a business example compare Bloomberg organisation to the Trump organisation. The new bloke runs more like Bloomberg, thus I'll give him a go and see what happens.

And the civil liberties is about saving lives. Banning indoor smoking was also an affront to civil liberties. But there was a compelling public health reason. Same with stop signs, they too impose upon our civil liberties. Same with masks - they are as much about your health as the health of others through your asymptomatic spreading of the virus. Just like second hand smoke. You dont have the right to subject others to your smoke. Now - you start firing people for saying "she" when a person wanted to be referred to as "they" - then I'm with you and I turn on the new bloke.

Btw these civil liberty restrictions were much more draconian in Oz, but we're in much better shape there now than most countries. For a while you could only get takeaway from the brothels lol. But they waived the outcall fee as a public service after the 2 week shut down a few months past. Brothels back open in Sydney.
 
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So Trump created the virus, really? At least Trudeau has only killed 19,000+ so far.
Please direct me to the post where I indicated tRUMP created the virus.
 
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i see you are not so good at math
from one of the links you provided

Renewable energy capacity is set to expand 50% between 2019 and 2024, led by solar energy. This is according to The International Energy Agency (IEA)’s
‘Renewable 2019’ report, which found that solar, wind and hydropower projects are rolling out at their fastest rate in four years.
a 50% expansion of 4% is 2%

so daily consumption of oil might drop from 100 million barrels a day to 98 million barrels a day at a cost of billions & massive mining efforts (opps that is environmentally unfriendly)
This assumes zero economic growth and no net new users of energy in africa, or asia and that is just not going to happen

Another one of your links points to new technological advances.
Do not hold your breath as you might get lucky and get a 10% increase in solar efficiency, whilst a 10X quantum leap is required.
Efficiency improvements are bumping up against basic laws of physics and chemistry (higher electron flow tends to alter / degrade the anode/ cathode)

The development of Di-lithiumn crystals (aka Star Trek) is not going to happen real soon
This is a shame as cheap readily available energy would lift millions around the world out of poverty

That said, shutting down fossil fuels without a reliable alternative in place is extremely irresponsible and dangerous and it will end badly.


BTW which pipeline is supposed to be be bad for the environment?
 
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i see you are not so good at math
from one of the links you provided



a 50% expansion of 4% is 2%

so daily consumption of oil might drop from 100 million barrels a day to 98 million barrels a day at a cost of billions
This assumes zero economic growth and no net new users of energy in africa, or asia and that is just not going to happen

Another one of your links points to new technological advances.
Do not hold your breath as you might get lucky and get a 10% increase in solar efficiency, whilst a 10X quantum leap is required.
Efficiency improvements are bumping up against basic laws of physics and chemistry

The development of Di-lithiumn crystals (aka Star Trek) is not going to happen real soon
This is a shame as cheap readily available energy would lift millions around the world out of poverty

That said, shutting down fossil fuels without a reliable alternative in place is extremely irresponsible and dangerous and it will end badly.
I didn't write or even read the article...
 
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JohnLarue

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They are all written by pro-energy/green people who are all well respected in their field...
Oh boy
if you did not read them then how do you know they are at all relevant?

pro-energy/green people ???
yeah those are a dime for a dozen, & by definition they have an agenda and alway ignore the obvious issue, the scale of energy demand.

Well respected in their field ??
Bullshit
You can not know that if you do not read the articles

Well respected in their field ??
Too funny
Very few in the field "pro-energy/green people" have a loose clue if they think solar & wind are going to displace fossil fuels

You can not be bothered to read the articles but expect me to read them ?
What is wrong with you?
 
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That said, shutting down fossil fuels without a reliable alternative in place is extremely irresponsible and dangerous and it will end badly.
The EU is already generating more electricity from renewable sources than from fossil fuels.
Get your head out of your arse.


 

Fun For All

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Oh boy
if you did not read them then how do you know they are at all relevant?

pro-energy/green people ???
yeah those are a dime for a dozen, & by definition they have an agenda and alway ignore the obvious issue, the scale of energy demand.

Well respected in their field ??
Bullshit
You can not know that if you do not read the articles

Well respected in their field ??
Too funny
Very few in the field "pro-energy/green people" have a loose clue if they think solar & wind are going to displace fossil fuels

You can not be bothered to read the articles but expect me to read them ?
What is wrong with you?
I was just showing you that qualified people to give an opinion disagree with your opinion...your right, opinions are a dime a dozen as you have proved.

Those authors have credentials in the field...you, you're just a guy with a hostile attitude with a self-righteous view.
 
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kherg007

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What a load of bullshit. The delivery system was already in place before Biden took office. They were doing an average of almost a million doses per day and the U.S. has it's own Pfizer lab. Nothing needs to be created from scratch.
Here WAS why:
However, this was challenged and even Fauci said there was some structure there that they will amplify. (See snopes has it mixed).

Thus, I stand corrected as I was wrong.
See lads? Info changes and change opinions accordingly. Acknowledge mistakes and move on. Not so hard.
 
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I was just showing you that qualified people to give an opinion disagree with your opinion...your right, opinions are a dime a dozen as you have proved.

Those authors have credentials in the field...you, you're just a guy with a hostile attitude with a self-righteous view.
Actually no, I am just a guy who can point out the facts you prefer to ignore

Do not expect to persuade anyone with articles you post if you have never read them
somebody may ask you a question

You post links as a counter argument without ever reading the material and you try and paint me as hostile with a self-righteous view??
What is wrong with you?
An acknowledgement of your poor judgement would have been more appropriate, then move on

"credentials in the field" - again, they do not have a loose clue if they think solar & wind are going to displace fossil fuels
I suggest you may consider learning something about the subject matter first before determining it needs to be changed
Ready, shoot, aim thinking
 

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JohnLarue is the type of guy who thinks "clean coal" is for real, and he put me on ignore because I disrespected him by calling his belief in clean coal Batshit crazy. At the same time he put me on ignore he was calling the left "nazis" in another thread. This guy is a giant snowflake.
 
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Fun For All

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Actually no, I am just a guy who can point out the facts you prefer to ignore

Do not expect to persuade anyone with articles you post if you have never read them
somebody may ask you a question

You post links as a counter argument without ever reading the material and you try and paint me as hostile with a self-righteous view??
What is wrong with you?
An acknowledgement of your poor judgement would have been more appropriate, then move on

"credentials in the field" - again, they do not have a loose clue if they think solar & wind are going to displace fossil fuels
I suggest you may consider learning something about the subject matter first before determining it needs to be changed
Ready, shoot, aim thinking
Even if I didn’t read those articles I still trust their opinions more than yours.
 
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JohnLarue is the type of guy who thinks "clean coal" is for real, and he put me on ignore because I disrespected him by calling his belief in clean coal Batshit crazy. At the same time he put me on ignore he was calling the left "nazis" in another thread. This guy is a giant snowflake.
He put me on ignore after I kept calling him out for his scientifically illiterate views.
Total snowflake and the boards biggest cancel culture practicer.
 
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No problem, shack. It was just a simple search that produced many links to it......





Your argument that people are calling Biden the Greatest President Ever are a bunch of links to people making fun of that idea and calling it nonsense?
 
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You're going to judge a man on a 7 day basis????
I agree with you. It's ludicrous. It's moronic.

But it's what whoever started this thread said in the title.

GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER KILLS 11000 jobs

Oh yeaaah. It was YOU.
 
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