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Valcazar

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Why don't you read it and tell us all an opinion?
I've read it.
The piece is quite famous - although not nearly as well known as it was 20 or so years ago when you would see it being used as an actual exercise quite often.
I'm asking what part you find weird and wacky.
 

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I've read it.
The piece is quite famous - although not nearly as well known as it was 20 or so years ago when you would see it being used as an actual exercise quite often.
I'm asking what part you find weird and wacky.
...and your method is clearly not to offer any opinions and just continue to troll. :LOL: . Surprisingly, I'm under no obligation to do what some rando asks when it clearly just feeds him.

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Please, share your awesome opinion on this well known article and how it many intersect into the Gender Identity orthodoxy as well.
 

Valcazar

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...and your method is clearly not to offer any opinions and just continue to troll. :LOL: . Surprisingly, I'm under no obligation to do what some rando asks when it clearly just feeds him.
Pointing out you're a memelord isn't trolling.
It requires no reaction from you whatsoever.

Please, share your awesome opinion on this well known article and how it many intersect into the Gender Identity orthodoxy as well.
Why?
You're the one who said it was wacky.
You're the one who has an opinion on how it intersects "into the Gender Identity orthodoxy as well".
I wouldn't dream of trying to read your mind on this without giving you a chance to make your argument.

Of course, that might require something more complex than a meme, so I don't have high hopes here.
 
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dirtyharry555

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Interesting that you ignore the sex trafficking (look away, nothing to see here) and focus on trans.

This is what inclusivity looks like.

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We need to start calling these guys misogynists. All they want to do is compete with women and stomp on women's rights.
 

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What work? explain what you posted?
So someone asks for scientific evidence that biological sex is not a simple binary, got those sources, and you decide not to read them or even watch the very simplified video.

A quick summary. There are many genes that affect primary and secondary sexual characteristics. By your definition they all would have to be 100% male or 100% female. The fact that there are many studies showing otherwise is irrefutable evidence that though in most cases, these genes are aligned, there are enough cases of gene 'misalignment' both from random genetic mutations, fusion of different genes, or environmental factors that turn genes on/off that disprove your claim. And as I said, the obvious examples of hermaphrodites should have ended the conversation about what science says.
 

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The 1st study does not do that. Don't dismiss it I read it. It says that men or women is critically poor category that goes way beyond Reproductive. That organs can be considered male or female Add the generic level.

Theoretically not individual by the article Defects In replication Could occur to Mix male and female organs. I suppose you could make this On a percentage scale of 100% male 100% female and Have mixes in the middle. Of course it's medical and I could have easily messed up. Biology is my worst subject After languages.
So you read the abstract of the first article then rejected what it says. What a surprise. Especially so since you acknowledge that the paper states explicitly that biological sex is not just sperm vs ova.

Not sure what you're saying in the 2nd paragraph. Are you admitting that there is room between the 100%s? Are you mixing up the ideas of genes and their impact vs. organs?
 

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Thanks for agreeing with what I said in my first post in this thread. Gender and biological sex are different things. Biological sex is easier to study as it is based on genetics and biological structures. Gender is a social science so from a scientific basis, there are a huge number of extraneous variables to come up with easy to prove definitions.

The study I posted about brain development in trans people often matching their gender identity does have scientific merit though.
 

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curr3n_c1000

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Thanks for agreeing with what I said in my first post in this thread. Gender and biological sex are different things. Biological sex is easier to study as it is based on genetics and biological structures. Gender is a social science so from a scientific basis, there are a huge number of extraneous variables to come up with easy to prove definitions.

The study I posted about brain development in trans people often matching their gender identity does have scientific merit though.
No, what you're trying to do is confuse the conversation by using intersex to prove transgender.

What I'm proving to you is Intersex and Transgender are 2 separate issues.
 

curr3n_c1000

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So someone asks for scientific evidence that biological sex is not a simple binary, got those sources, and you decide not to read them or even watch the very simplified video.

A quick summary. There are many genes that affect primary and secondary sexual characteristics. By your definition they all would have to be 100% male or 100% female. The fact that there are many studies showing otherwise is irrefutable evidence that though in most cases, these genes are aligned, there are enough cases of gene 'misalignment' both from random genetic mutations, fusion of different genes, or environmental factors that turn genes on/off that disprove your claim. And as I said, the obvious examples of hermaphrodites should have ended the conversation about what science says.
What you are talking about are people born with genetic abnormalities and medical disorders.

This is like me saying everyone is born with two arms and you say "well not everyone is born with two arm".

But here is the thing, they still have some or a lack of combination of X and Y.
 

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Well, the French have two genders (M/F) for everything (in their words) and the Germans have three genders (M/F/neither). Take your pick...
 

dirtyharry555

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"A transgender"? Do you mean "a trans PERSON" or do you simply enjoy casting them as things?
It's a man who thinks he's another gender... how am I to assume he even identifies as a person.
 

Valcazar

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Well, the French have two genders (M/F) for everything (in their words) and the Germans have three genders (M/F/neither). Take your pick...
Then the Ojibwe speakers have kind of two (animate/inanimate) but it gets more complicated than just that with a kind of hierarchy and then you have the Dyirbal who have 4 (men and animate objects / women, fire, and dangerous things/edible plants / other things)
 
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