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Epstein floodgates open as judge rules explosive docs detailing Ghislaine Maxwell's sex life can be UNSEALED in Virginia Giuffre's defamation case

mandrill

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Try to look into who Obama pardoned.
There is a whole procedure for a president pardoning convicts. It normally involves the president's aides reviewing the case, incl the evidence and the extenuating circumstances of the offender.

In the case of DJT, the "extenuating circumstances" normally involve whether the convict had dirt on Trump that he refused to give to the Feds. This wasn't the case w Obama's pardons.
 
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Insidious Von

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If Trump is enhancing his image with his base with his pardons - why didn't he pardon Dylann Roof?
 

mandrill

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Of course, Barry was too busy freeing terrorists and those who would harm America like this guy - who Obama waited to free until his last few days in office:

Oscar López Rivera, FALN member sentenced in 1981 to 55 years in prison for seditious conspiracy, use of force to commit robbery, interstate transportation of firearms, and conspiracy to transport explosives with intent to destroy government property, and subsequently to an additional 15 years for attempted escape in 1988. Commuted on January 17, 2017.[40]

If you look at the list, Obama seemed to have a soft spot for drug dealers, early on cocaine dealers were his dealer of choice to free. On Jan 17, 2017 he freed 330 drug dealers to enable the flow of illegal narcotics to run more smoothly once his successor took over. Awesome work Barry!!!

Rivera served 36 years of federal time and there may have been some extenuating circumstance - illness, reform, etc. He doesn't seem an outlandish choice for a pardon, tbh.

Again, give me details on individual drug dealers BHO pardoned and I might try and comment. You're surely not suggesting that BHO had some personal interest in the drug trade?

I know you're a fool, but that pushes the envelope even for you.
 

mandrill

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If Trump is enhancing his image with his base with his pardons - why didn't he pardon Dylann Roof?
Putin is still thinking that one over. He'll let Donny know in due course.
 

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Of course, Barry was too busy freeing terrorists and those who would harm America like this guy - who Obama waited to free until his last few days in office:

Oscar López Rivera, FALN member sentenced in 1981 to 55 years in prison for seditious conspiracy, use of force to commit robbery, interstate transportation of firearms, and conspiracy to transport explosives with intent to destroy government property, and subsequently to an additional 15 years for attempted escape in 1988. Commuted on January 17, 2017.[40]

If you look at the list, Obama seemed to have a soft spot for drug dealers, early on cocaine dealers were his dealer of choice to free. On Jan 17, 2017 he freed 330 drug dealers to enable the flow of illegal narcotics to run more smoothly once his successor took over. Awesome work Barry!!!

Glad to see I'm not the only one refusing to drink the Democratic Socialist Kool-Aid.
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Sadly one option is to makes claims against every prominent democrat and wait for Trump to pardon her.
From the look of things this is going to end up a Bypartisan scandal. Which means it's really dangerous for her. The DA office is going to get political pressure.
 

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Sadly one option is to makes claims against every prominent democrat and wait for Trump to pardon her.
I suspect prominent people are spending a lot of time in company of others and/or out in public and so may have their past well documented. Can’t safely claim they were on the pedo island when there’s no evidence of it and they may have been doing an interview in LA or attended a birthday party in NY that day or week.
 

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I suspect prominent people are spending a lot of time in company of others and/or out in public and so may have their past well documented. Can’t safely claim they were on the pedo island when there’s no evidence of it and they may have been doing an interview in LA or attended a birthday party in NY that day or week.
I'd like to see Walter Cronkite cleared immediately...
 

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Ghislaine Maxwell is said to be a raunchy up for everything sexpot, spy agent, skills she employed as a CIA and MOSSAD agent. She was known to but never used by MI5. British Secret Service must have known about Prince Andrew’s activities, Epstein’s Island and Sarah Ferguson’s payoffs.
 

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Ghislaine Maxwell is said to be a raunchy up for everything sexpot, spy agent, skills she employed as a CIA and MOSSAD agent. She was known to but never used by MI5. British Secret Service must have known about Prince Andrew’s activities, Epstein’s Island and Sarah Ferguson’s payoffs.
Sounds like my kind of girl. Actually neither of them were bad looking. Makes you wonder why they couldn't settle down and find that special someone.Why didn't they stay in France? Reminds me of this.
Never get out of the plane.....
 

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Sounds like my kind of girl. Actually neither of them were bad looking. Makes you wonder why they couldn't settle down and find that special someone.Why didn't they stay in France? Reminds me of this.
Never get out of the plane.....

Ghislaine more than enjoyed Epstein’s egg shaped penis but he refused to marry her so their relationship took a different turn. She was given assurances of a light sentence in America if she “cooperated”, a plan that would have her living in recently bought New Jersey mansion very soon again. She wants to live but knows far too much about the CIA, the Mossad, the Royal Family, Trump, the Clinton’s and many other power titans. The plots, the machinations, the hush money and blackmail due to espionage that she and Epstein were embroiled in are mind boggling. This “honey trap “ specialist felt that she would have been wacked in France and that coming to America with a pending deal in US election year was her best option.
 

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Ghislaine more than enjoyed Epstein’s egg shaped penis but he refused to marry her so their relationship took a different turn. She was given assurances of a light sentence in America if she “cooperated”, a plan that would have her living in recently bought New Jersey mansion very soon again. She wants to live but knows far too much about the CIA, the Mossad, the Royal Family, Trump, the Clinton’s and many other power titans. The plots, the machinations, the hush money and blackmail due to espionage that she and Epstein were embroiled in are mind boggling. This “honey trap “ specialist felt that she would have been wacked in France and that coming to America with a pending deal in US election year was her best option.
Sounds about right. The elite Americans will escape judgement, somebody will have to be sacrificed. I personally think it will be Prince Andrew, but who knows.
 

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Before Epstein was murdered in prison, anyone that spoke of rich and powerful men having sex with underage girls on an island was considered a conspiracy theory lunatic. Now everyone knows that it was true. The island, the underage sex, the rich and powerful. All of it was real.

Anyone that claimed there was a liberal media bias was given similar treatment pre-Trump yet we witnessed with no filter how the liberal media tried yet failed to get Clinton elected over Trump, and how they sabotaged Bernie for Clinton.

Is covid next?
 
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Anyone that claimed there was a liberal media bias was given similar treatment pre-Trump yet we witnessed with no filter how the liberal media tried yet failed to get Clinton elected over Trump, and how they sabotaged Bernie for Clinton.
 
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