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Don Sutton was a career Dodger almost, I remember him getting into a locker-room punch up with Steve Garvey.
 
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Don Sutton, Baseball Hall of Fame Pitcher, Dies at 75 (msn.com)

First Lasorda and now Sutton so soon after. At one time he was in the rotation along with Koufax, Drysdale and Claude Osteen. Interestingly with 324 wins he never had a 20 win season.

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He was an average pitcher who had just one 20 game season, actually 21 games. His longevity and overall good luck on not being injured, allowed him to win 324 games at the rate of 14 wins per season. He was not outstanding in any pitching category. Being a Dodger got him a leg up to enter the Hall.
 
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bluecolt said:
He was an average pitcher who had just one 20 game season, actually 21 games. His longevity and overall good luck on not being injured, allowed him to win 324 games at the rate of 14 wins per season. He was not outstanding in any pitching category. Being a Dodger got him a leg up to enter the Hall.
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Average?........A career ERA of 3.26 with a WHIP of 1.142 in over 5282 innings.

I'd say that's a lot better than average........He was a classic workhorse.
 
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Don Sutton was the Gregg Maddux of his day which worked well with flame throwers like Koufax and Drysdale.

Marty Funkhauser Koufaxes it!

 
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Average?........A career ERA of 3.26 with a WHIP of 1.142 in over 5282 innings.

I'd say that's a lot better than average........He was a classic workhorse.
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I would say a notch below Koufax, Drysdale, Gibson, Seaver, Ford. No shame in that.

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I would say a notch below Koufax, Drysdale, Gibson, Seaver, Ford. No shame in that.

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A big notch below. Sutton entered the National League in 1966. It was Sandy Koufax's last year and Drysdale was in the twilight of his career. Only soft tosser Claude Osteen remained with the Dodgers for several years after Sutton began his career. The Dodger starters were centred around Bill Singer, Claude Osteen and Don Sutton with Mike Marshall in the bullpen, in the late sixties and early seventies. The team still had a punchless offense until Steve Garvey and Jimmy Wynn, the Toy Cannon, showed up around 1974 and started to punch the ball hard. My favourite character was manager Walt Alston, who parlayed one-year contracts into a 23 year career. He was a great field general who could get the best out of his players.
 
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I saw him pitch against our Jays when he was with the Oakland A's. Dave Kingman hit an opposite field double bouncing off 1st base and rolling into the outfield. Barfield was laughing.
 
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Insidious Von said:
Don Sutton was the Gregg Maddux of his day which worked well with flame throwers like Koufax and Drysdale.

Marty Funkhauser Koufaxes it!

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Did you ever see Don Sutton pitch? He was not the Gregg Maddux of the late sixties, seventies and eighties. He threw very very hard.
 
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Did you ever see Don Sutton pitch? He was not the Gregg Maddux of the late sixties, seventies and eighties. He threw very very hard.
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Sutton and Maddux both won 10 or more games in a season 20+ times, and they both threw 200+ innings, or close to that, almost every year.

Maddux was the better fielder, (18 gold gloves), but Sutton wasn't Nolan Ryan in that regard. Greg was the better hitter, too; Sutton holds the major league record for most career at-bats without a home run.
 
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Sutton was a great pitcher and probably a good guy.

But the immediate memory I have of him is his call of Vladimir Guerrero’s first home run. Not his shining moment.
 
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maurice93 said:
Sutton was a great pitcher and probably a good guy.

But the immediate memory I have of him is his call of Vladimir Guerrero’s first home run. Not his shining moment.
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I'd like to hear this story.
 
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I believe the year that Sutton and Garvey chucked knuckles was in 75, the Dodgers finished a distant second to the Reds. Sutton won the fight, probably why Goose Gossage started throwing punches with Cliff Johnson - it didn't end well for Gossage.

Johnson was traded to the the Jays where he became Mr. Lovable.

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I'd like to hear this story.
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Not good with posting links with my phone, but google “don sutton Vladimir Guerrero”.

Basicallly it was 1996. Expos were in wildcard race, down 2 runs in bottom of ninth against Braves. Vlad was one of the two clear best prospects in baseball that year with Andrew Jones, and had just been called up. I think he hit like .370 in double A. But apparently this meant nothing to Don.

Vlad came up to bat. Don Sutton questions Felipe Alou still using him and not bringing in a pinch hitter, and says this is like waving a white flag. As he is saying this, Vlad hits a home run. Sutton immediately doubles down and says the move to let Guerrero bat was plain stupid, no matter what happened. He seemed so salty.
 
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Thanks. It sounds a bit like TERB where people can never admit that they're wrong. LOL
 
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