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ottawa_cuck

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Deadly force is supposed to be used to someone from the imminent threat of causing serious injury to someone, or if they are attempting to flee the scene after causing serious physical injury (like stabbing or shooting someone). From the sounds of it, this did not meet that threshold.
 

silentkisser

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Look, I can say that this is definitely MQBing. The thing is, police should be trained better. There are far too many instances of shit like this happening, where they are shooting people based on very weak probable cause. I know they are making split second decisions, but at the same time this shit seems to happen disproportionately to black men. Why is that?

But you keep saying shit like they deserve to die. Who are you to make that call? Or the cops. Would you think it appropriate to shoot someone running from a shoplifting offence?
 

ottawa_cuck

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Look, I can say that this is definitely MQBing. The thing is, police should be trained better. There are far too many instances of shit like this happening, where they are shooting people based on very weak probable cause. I know they are making split second decisions, but at the same time this shit seems to happen disproportionately to black men. Why is that?

But you keep saying shit like they deserve to die. Who are you to make that call? Or the cops. Would you think it appropriate to shoot someone running from a shoplifting offence?
no system is perfect. let’s start with that agreement.

1- id like to see more bad cops in jail.

2- id like to see more bad criminals in jail.

3- i think being a police officer is insanely stressful. it’s a warzone in some cities. We need a lot more cops on the street.

it should be mandatory by law for every able body person to serve as a police officer. Similar to the army.
 

tastingyou

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Look, I can say that this is definitely MQBing. The thing is, police should be trained better. There are far too many instances of shit like this happening, where they are shooting people based on very weak probable cause. I know they are making split second decisions, but at the same time this shit seems to happen disproportionately to black men. Why is that?

But you keep saying shit like they deserve to die. Who are you to make that call? Or the cops. Would you think it appropriate to shoot someone running frog m a shoplifting offence?
I agree that many cops [ estimate 10 % , higher in the USA } are no better than the thugs that they either shoot or try to arrest. They will fabricate any type of evidence needed to support their story in the case of missteps on their part such as planting guns and drugs or what ever supports their case best.

However it goes without saying that cops are much more apprehensive when dealing with blacks or other ethnics and they are much more likely to shoot first at the first sign of possible danger. Maybe because on average statistics prove that they much more dangerous and likely to be armed. If you are black you are an idiot if you are not aware of this and do not tread very carefully when you are out at night and especially if you are breaking the law. lt does not do you much good if you are shot dead whether you deserve to be or not. And in many cases they did everything possible to provoke the cops into aggressive, heavy handed and fearful action on their part.
 

silentkisser

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no system is perfect. let’s start with that agreement.

1- id like to see more bad cops in jail.

2- id like to see more bad criminals in jail.

3- i think being a police officer is insanely stressful. it’s a warzone in some cities. We need a lot more cops on the street.

it should be mandatory by law for every able body person to serve as a police officer. Similar to the army.
I agree with the first two. However, being a police officer is stressful, but less likely to be deadly compared to other professions, and after Uvalde, we've learned they have no duty to risk their lives to save people...

I think the major issue with being a police officer is they do not get enough training, especially in North America. You look at Europe and they are required to take a few years to learn the ins and outs of policing. They weed out those who are mentally unfit to be cops (the ones that would abuse their authority or show racist tendencies), but also teach them how to de-escalate and the proper way to handle the mentally ill. There are far fewer reports of police brutality and killings in areas like this. Considering the power a cop can wield over a citizen, they should be held to a higher standard, and get rid of shit like qualified immunity - which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
 
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If any thugs on terb want to lead cops on a car chase. Bad idea bruh. Especially in Ohio!

Black dude got shot 60 times
30 shots missed 😂
And yet a string of white mass shooters arrested and taken into custody without a scratch.


Violent White Folks Who Were Arrested With Care By Police | NewsOne
 
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To get some insight on this review footage from police body cams on policeposts (instagram? facebook?)
Its a training site for law enforcemnt.
The job is not worth what they get paid for.
I concur that the videos are vetted to show the criminals in the worst possible light, but they also show the worst possible working conditions police deal with.
There are way too many scenarios that went sideways too fast.
If a car out ran you twice the day before, the anticipated level of aggression from the driver will be high.
Treating this like any other traffic stop is negligent and ignores potential danger to the public or other officers.
I'm not defending 60 rnds, but I understand it.
 

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ottawa_cuck

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What reports are reliable? CNN?
CNN wants another summer of George Floyd riots.

UNARMED BLACK MAN

Bullshit he shot at the cops while driving his car and the gun & shell casing was found in the car.

He led cops on a chase the day before too!!!



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Anbarandy

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CNN wants another summer of George Floyd riots.

UNARMED BLACK MAN

Bullshit he shot at the cops while driving his car and the gun & shell casing was found in the car.

He led cops on a chase the day before too!!!



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It's like pumping dozens of rounds into a feebly armed troll on the loose in cybervania
 

danmand

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I wonder if the members here who always cheer on the police, when they kill somebody without a trial, would like to live under an authoritarian regime.
Because that is that they are wishing for.
 
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bver_hunter

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Black guy didn’t use his brain, he never surrendered.

White guy used his brain, surrendered.
So when the Black guy was already shot and went flat on the ground the cops were justified in keeping on shooting up to 60 rounds because he 'was running away and did not surrender". Is that your logic??
 

ottawa_cuck

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So when the Black guy was already shot and went flat on the ground the cops were justified in keeping on shooting up to 60 rounds because he 'was running away and did not surrender". Is that your logic??
it was Dark 🌙 and he is black 🌚

cops keep shooting until they’re sure the threat is put down. that’s the training 📚

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8 cops ~ 90 rounds = 11 rounds each
 

ottawa_cuck

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I agree with the first two. However, being a police officer is stressful, but less likely to be deadly compared to other professions, and after Uvalde, we've learned they have no duty to risk their lives to save people...

I think the major issue with being a police officer is they do not get enough training, especially in North America. You look at Europe and they are required to take a few years to learn the ins and outs of policing. They weed out those who are mentally unfit to be cops (the ones that would abuse their authority or show racist tendencies), but also teach them how to de-escalate and the proper way to handle the mentally ill. There are far fewer reports of police brutality and killings in areas like this. Considering the power a cop can wield over a citizen, they should be held to a higher standard, and get rid of shit like qualified immunity - which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

cops today may seem poorly trained but maybe it’s because nobody wants to be one. they get the low
iq recruits or they get ex military who have ptsd and are gung ho. everyone hates them according to the left media, the same people who cry that Trump vilifies them. 🙄 the hate for cops builds and they are targeted for assassination. thanks media 📺


 

silentkisser

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cops today may seem poorly trained but maybe it’s because nobody wants to be one. they get the low
iq recruits or they get ex military who have ptsd and are gung ho. everyone hates them according to the left media, the same people who cry that Trump vilifies them. 🙄 the hate for cops builds and they are targeted for assassination. thanks media 📺


Really, you think nobody wants to be one? Many police forces have significantly more candidates than positions. Now, I will agree, the pay, depending on where they work, can be shockingly bad. But the hate they get are for the actions they take. It isn't necessarily the fact they (sometimes subjectively) enforce the law, its the way they treat communities, especially communities of colour. As others have mentioned in this thread, they didn't pump 90 rounds into the Highland Park shooter, he was arrested fairly civilly. And he killed six people and wounded 30. The black dude may have fired a gun, but was unarmed and running away. I'm not saying all cops need to be vilified, but the reality is that the "thin blue line" protects bad cops. And one bad apple can spoil the reputations of the whole bunch.

The reality here is the anger is not from the left media, which really doesn't exist. It's the fact that there are cowboy cops out there who act like they're in a movie. They shoot first instead of trying to de-escalate situations, especially when there is a black man involved. They harass people and do things that violate people's rights. And the worst part of it all is they are rarely punished. I'm a white man and rarely have interactions with the Toronto Police Service. But, I can say with almost certainty that they ignore me for the most part, unless I do something egregious. I cannot say that would be the case if I was black or brown. I believe I would be treated with respect if I was pulled over, but again, I cannot say the same would be true for a POC. And, I can only imagine what that would be like in Mississippi or Alabama...Hell, even the south side of Chicago.
 
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bver_hunter

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it was Dark 🌙 and he is black 🌚

cops keep shooting until they’re sure the threat is put down. that’s the training 📚

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8 cops ~ 90 rounds = 11 rounds each
When he was shot and on the ground, they continued with their shooting. The basic training is once the victim has been shot and is not seen to be a threat, then that is where it should end.
Listen to the police account, where they stated that it should be a "reasonable force"!!


Does not sound like 60 rounds is close to being "reasonable"!!
 
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bver_hunter

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Really, you think nobody wants to be one? Many police forces have significantly more candidates than positions. Now, I will agree, the pay, depending on where they work, can be shockingly bad. But the hate they get are for the actions they take. It isn't necessarily the fact they (sometimes subjectively) enforce the law, its the way they treat communities, especially communities of colour. As others have mentioned in this thread, they didn't pump 90 rounds into the Highland Park shooter, he was arrested fairly civilly. And he killed six people and wounded 30. The black dude may have fired a gun, but was unarmed and running away. I'm not saying all cops need to be vilified, but the reality is that the "thin blue line" protects bad cops. And one bad apple can spoil the reputations of the whole bunch.

The reality here is the anger is not from the left media, which really doesn't exist. It's the fact that there are cowboy cops out there who act like they're in a movie. They shoot first instead of trying to de-escalate situations, especially when there is a black man involved. They harass people and do things that violate people's rights. And the worst part of it all is they are rarely punished. I'm a white man and rarely have interactions with the Toronto Police Service. But, I can say with almost certainty that they ignore me for the most part, unless I do something egregious. I cannot say that would be the case if I was black or brown. I believe I would be treated with respect if I was pulled over, but again, I cannot say the same would be true for a POC. And, I can only imagine what that would be like in Mississippi or Alabama...Hell, even the south side of Chicago.
If you compare that to the shooting of Ashli Babbitt who was killed when she stormed the Capitol Hill and the outcry from the Far Right media and the usual right wingers on this Board was stark. Maybe ottawa-cuck will celebrate her death in a similar manner, although she was shot just a few times by a single Black Officer, after he felt that his life and those of the Congressman were severely threatened. He did not know whether she had a gun or was even a woman in the manner in which she was dressed up. The difference was a mob of violent individuals breaking down a door and coming in direction of a single cop, versus a Black guy running away and several cops trying to taser him when dropping to the ground, then firing numerous dozens of gunshots even though he went down. Trying to taser him in the first place was proof enough against these cops that he was not a threat, but was just fleeing!!

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