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Police departments around the U.S. that are requiring officers to get vaccinated against COVID-19 are running up against pockets of resistance that some fear could leave law enforcement shorthanded and undermine public safety.

Police unions and officers are pushing back by filing lawsuits to block the mandates. In Chicago, the head of the police union called on members to defy the city’s Friday deadline for reporting their COVID-19 vaccination status.

Seattle’s police department sent detectives and non-patrol officers to emergency calls this week because of a shortage of patrol officers that union leaders fear will become worse because of vaccine mandates.

The standoffs are playing out at a time when many police departments already are dealing with surging homicide rates and staff shortages unrelated to the vaccine. Cities and police leaders are now weighing the risk of losing more officers to resignations, firings or suspensions over their refusal to get vaccinated.

Chicago’s mayor on Friday filed a complaint in court against the leader of the local Fraternal Order of Police, accusing him of “engaging in, supporting and encouraging work stoppage or strike” by saying the city's more than 12,000 uniformed officers should ignore the order to report their vaccination status.

On Thursday, Mayor Lori Lightfoot said officers would not be sent home if they showed up to work Friday and refused to provide their information. Instead, she said, they would be put on unpaid leave after the weekend, because confirming compliance would take a few days.

Refusing to provide the information, Lightfoot said, would constitute an act of insubordination.

John Catanzara, president of the FOP local in Chicago, said about half of his members have not been vaccinated and called a mandate requiring inoculation “absolutely wrong.”

“They were willing to go into a no-pay status at midnight tonight and get sent home,” he said, suggesting during an appearance on Fox News that the city could not afford to lose police officers.

“You know, the reality is we have a profession nobody else wants to do right now. They cannot get anybody to go into this police academy,” he said.

In Los Angeles County, Sheriff Alex Villanueva said he won’t force his 18,000 employees to be vaccinated despite a county mandate. “I don’t want to be in a position to lose 5, 10% of my workforce overnight,” he said last week.

Hundreds of police officers in San Diego said they would consider quitting instead of complying with a vaccination mandate.

Resistance is bubbling up even though first responders have been hit hard by COVID-19. More than 460 law enforcement officers have died from the virus, according to the Officer Down Memorial Page, which tracks deaths in the line of duty.

Disputes over government and business vaccine requirements have spilled over into a variety of workplaces, including one of the nation’s premier nuclear weapons laboratories and the NBA.

Workers at Los Alamos National Laboratory — the birthplace of the atomic bomb — faced a deadline Friday to get vaccinated or risk being fired. A New Mexico judge denied a last-minute request by dozens of scientists and others to block the mandate.

In the NBA, the Brooklyn Nets are not allowing star Kyrie Irving to practice or play until he is vaccinated.

In Italy, protests erupted Friday as vaccine requirements went into effect for all workers, from magistrates to maids, to help control the spread of the coronavirus

The number of Americans getting vaccines has steadily increased over the past three months as boosters have become available and mandates have taken effect. The number of shots administered per day has topped 840,000 on average.

No national statistics show the vaccination rate for America’s first responders, but individual police and fire departments across the country have reported figures far below the national rate of 77% for adults who have had at least one dose.

Police departments in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Denver are also among those under vaccine mandates or facing one. New York's mayor has said he is looking at the idea despite opposition from the city's largest police union.

The union representing some 1,000 Seattle police personnel suggests that the mandate could worsen staffing shortages, which in turn could risk public safety. The union's president, Mike Solan, said the city's police force lost some 300 officers over the past 18 months and anticipates another “mass exodus” in the coming weeks.

As of last week, nearly 300 of the 1,000 uniformed officers in Seattle had either not turned in paperwork showing they were vaccinated or were seeking an exemption, the mayor’s office said. But scores more are believed to have been vaccinated since then.

"People believe in personal choice, and we as a union have to represent everybody," Solan said. “We’re not going to play the games of segregating between the vaxxed and the unvaxxed, It's not about that. This is about saving jobs.”

In recent weeks, judges have rejected attempts by a group of Oregon State Police troopers and Denver police officers to block vaccine mandates.

 
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kyleb899

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It bunch of dumbass people in the States, can't take a simple vaccine, crying about rights.
States leading in cases and deaths
 
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Unions: You didn't consult with us.
Fine, we pass a rule saying you can't fuck underage donkeys. Go ahead and publicly get it sent to mediation. Look stupid

Union: Hey this is an unsafe workplace;
Yeah remember when we demanded vaccines? Go eat a bag of dicks and get back to work, you obviously don't give a fuck.
 

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There's a correlation between being not-so-bright and refusing to get vaccinated for nearly all the given reasons (microchips, testicles, etc)

If this helps winnow out the dumber ones, I'm all for it. They're not the ones who should be carrying guns and wielding authority. Let them fulfill orders in an Amazon warehouse or something.
 
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This vaccination flare up is just the last straw. Police are fed up with being blamed for all of society's ills. Plus, the risk of on the job injuries and death (491 in the past two years) is very real.
 

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This vaccination flare up is just the last straw. Police are fed up with being blamed for all of society's ills. Plus, the risk of on the job injuries and death (491 in the past two years) is very real.
The cops not wanting to do anything about the thing that is killing them (COVID killed more cops than anything else last year) is typical.
And, of course, they are suffering with all the increases in their budgets.
 
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So this is why the U.S. left Afghanistan, the troops are coming home.

I mean maybe. Just speculating, could be wrong.
 

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Unions: You didn't consult with us.
Fine, we pass a rule saying you can't fuck underage donkeys. Go ahead and publicly get it sent to mediation. Look stupid

Union: Hey this is an unsafe workplace;
Yeah remember when we demanded vaccines? Go eat a bag of dicks and get back to work, you obviously don't give a fuck.
On the other hand mandates are the problem. They're heavy handed. A reasonable accommodation involving mandatory testing would have had the same effect and would not endangered the vital services.
 
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I get what the unions are doing but the stats show more cops have died of covid in the last year than in the line of duty. I would suggest the health of their members is more significant of protecting the fringe who refuse to follow medical advice while dealing with the public.

I simple compromise would be putting any unvaccinated cop on desk duty doing paperwork from home.
 
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A veteran Washington state trooper used his last moments on the job to tell the governor whose Covid-19 vaccine mandate essentially ended his career to “kiss my ass,” striking a nerve in a nation divided over jab authoritarianism.

A viral video of the unidentified trooper began circulating on social media on Saturday, showing him signing off to his dispatcher for the last time while sitting in his patrol car. “This is my final signoff, and after 22 years of serving the citizens of the state of Washington, I’ve been asked to leave because I am dirty,” the officer said.

The trooper didn’t specify what he meant by “dirty,” but Seattle radio host Jason Rantz, who has booked an interview with the man, said he had been fired for defying Governor Jay Inslee’s Covid-19 vaccine mandate. Inslee ordered in August that Washington’s state employees and contractors be fully vaccinated by October 18 or face termination. The order marked one of the most stringent such mandates in the nation.

The state trooper recounted some of the difficulties he’s gone through on the job, such as dealing with numerous fatalities and injuries. “I’ve worked sick, I’ve played sick, we’ve buried lots of friends over these years,” he said.

The officer added: “I’d like to thank you guys, I’d like to thank the citizens of Yakima County, as well as my fellow officers within the valley. Without you guys, I wouldn’t have been very successful, and you kept me safe and got me home to my family every night. Thank you for that. I wish I could say more, but this is it.”

 

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A veteran Washington state trooper used his last moments on the job to tell the governor whose Covid-19 vaccine mandate essentially ended his career to “kiss my ass,” striking a nerve in a nation divided over jab authoritarianism.
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Wait, cops who often abuse their authority to order people around gets upset that his employer is ordering him around?

Considering the number of cops who have died of covid, whining about vaccine mandates is like whining that they have to wear vests.
 
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Rako3

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Ha! How many people have had cops force them to do all sorts of things they didn't want to do? Nice bit of turnaround.

Simple question -- did he become a cop to keep people safer, or did he become a cop so he could tell other people what to do?
 

Valcazar

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That the worst cops are self selecting out seems like a win-win.
 
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