Carney And Smith Closer To A Pipeline Deal In North BC.

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Carney again is doing conservative things that Harper would be proud of, yet the fringe righties went extreme and still hate Carney.
I am not aware of attacks on Carney's lying in bed with Alberta from the righties.
I think it will be mainly the segment of climate sheeple voters more genuinely
concerned about Earth's climate future that are upset by Carney's conservative policies.
To the imbecile which most of the climate sheeple are Carney can flush his commitment
to zero emission down the toilet and he is still the same climate warrior in their eyes.
 
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Carney again is doing conservative things that Harper would be proud of, yet the fringe righties went extreme and still hate Carney.

Could be, maybe ...

it is a yes / no decision for Carney
carney will let David Eby kill this and then claim, hey i tried
 

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Here you go, the pipeline deal that was a pipe dream under Trudeau, Carney delivers a pipeline deal for Alberta. The righties in Alberta are upset because PP couldn't get close to a deal.

 

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Here you go, the pipeline deal that was a pipe dream under Trudeau, Carney delivers a pipeline deal for Alberta. The righties in Alberta are upset because PP couldn't get close to a deal.
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I bet the righties are nowhere nearly as disgusted as Steven Guilbeault by the deal
 
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Guilbeault to leave cabinet after Carney inks pipeline MOU with Alberta

A Liberal source said Carney is running the Prime Minister’s Office like the “CEO of a Fortune 100 company” that doesn’t “operate on consensus, or a great deal of deliberation and consultation.”

November 27th, 2025

Canadian Identity Minister Steven Guilbeault has resigned from cabinet after Prime Minister Mark Carney signed a memorandum of understanding with Alberta that outlines a roadmap for a new oil pipeline to the Pacific coast.

Guilbeault, who served as environment minister under Justin Trudeau, said in a statement that he “understands the Prime Minister’s efforts to ensure our country remains united,” but that environmental issues “must remain front and centre.”

“That is why I strongly oppose the Memorandum of Understanding between the federal government and the government of Alberta,” read the statement posted on social media.

In particular, Guilbeault cited the lack of Indigenous consultation prior to the MOU, as well as a potential pipeline’s ecological impacts in B.C.’s Great Bear Rainforest, as some of the reasons for his resignation.

Before entering politics, Guilbeault was a Greenpeace activist and co-founded the environmental advocacy group Equiterre.

Earlier this year, Guilbeault endorsed Carney for the Liberal leadership, though a party source told iPolitics that the longtime minister was dissatisfied with the government’s recent rollbacks of Trudeau-era climate measures, like the consumer carbon price, electric-vehicle mandate and oil and gas emissions cap — which Guilbeault confirmed in his statement.

The source, who asked to remain anonymous in order to speak freely, said hat Guilbeault repeatedly fought for the government to prioritize climate action, but he found himself unable to defend the pipeline MOU with Alberta.

They noted that Guilbeault remained open to staying within cabinet until he read the agreement’s final text, which promised to exempt Alberta from the Clean Electricity Regulations and amend the federally-imposed moratorium on oil tankers off the coast of B.C., upon which he made his decision.

While Alberta has promised to strengthen its industrial pricing regime and support the Pathways Alliance’s carbon capture and sequestration project, as part of the agreement, Guilbeault called the tradeoff “a mistake.”

“When I entered politics, it was because I had a deep conviction that I could make a difference in fighting climate change and protecting our environment,” said Guilbeault. “My commitment to leaving a better world for the future of our children and our planet remains unchanged.”

In addition to the Canadian identity file, Guilbeault served as Carney’s Quebec lieutenant in cabinet and was minister responsible for nature, Parks Canada and official languages. In his statement, he promised to stay on as a Liberal MP for the Quebec riding of Laurier—Sainte-Marie.

Earlier on Thursday, Carney sidestepped questions on Guilbeault’s future, as he defended his agreement with Alberta.

Some environmentalist and B.C. Liberal MPs have cried foul over the prospect of shipping oil to the province’s northwest coast, pointing to the region’s ecological importance and the need to transition away from fossil fuels to combat climate change.

At a press conference in Calgary, Carney refused to answer questions on whether the language in the agreement around climate and demands that Alberta would need support from B.C. and affected First Nations to build a pipeline were enough to assuage concerns from Guilbeault.

“This agreement is the beginning of a process, as I said. For example, regarding the environmental aspects, we must we must determine the process for the Pathways carbon capture and clean energy project. And the strengthening within this agreement is a strengthening of the TIER system, meaning the industrial carbon price,” he said referring to Alberta’s pricing scheme, known as the technology innovation and emissions reduction regulation.

“There is a commitment from the province of Alberta to raise the effective price in the TIER system to $130. That is more than six times what the price is now. So, that’s one example, there are others, but one great
example that the strengthening of the of the effective rules or systems regarding the reduction of greenhouse gases is in this agreement.”

But when asked pointedly if those climate commitments were enough to keep Guilbeault in cabinet, Carney said it’s “good enough for the Government of Canada.”

“I am the Prime Minister, and we must make decisions in the interest of Alberta, of Canada, and we must have results, real reductions in greenhouse gases. And that requires investment, investment here in Alberta, investment in British Columbia, investment on a large scale across Canada. And with this agreement, we are creating the right investment conditions,” he said.

Carney’s comments come amid reports that some Liberals in caucus were unhappy with the move to make a deal with Alberta, citing concerns on the impact on their political chances in B.C. and Premier Danielle Smith’s flirtation with Alberta separatism and unwillingness to show leadership on the climate file.

There were also concerns about the lack of consultation with caucus and cabinet members prior to the announcement of the deal with Alberta.

Another Liberal source, who asked not to be identified to discuss the issue
freely, said Carney is running the Prime Minister’s Office like the “CEO of a Fortune 100 company” that doesn’t “operate on consensus, or a great deal of deliberation and consultation.”

The PM, the source said, only brings into the decision-making process a select few people from the PMO and cabinet ministers like Energy Minister Tim Hodgson that are seen as in the “inner circle.”

The source added that this may alienate veterans of the previous Liberal government and there would likely be departures of politician and staff before Christmas, but that wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing as there is a desire to move on from the Trudeau years.

“This is the fortune 100 CEO, get out of my way, party now. I think some people might leave before Christmas or shortly after Christmas, before the House resumes. Do I think it’s a risk to the government? I don’t know. They have parted from the last nine years of some policy decisions and certainly style and approach, so I I don’t know that it’s a risk necessarily for people to move on,” the source said, adding that some of those who have voiced concerns actually won’t walk out the door because of what they would lose.

“Being an MP for some of them is the best job they might ever… and being a staffer at 27 gives you power and a lifestyle that you would never otherwise have in the private sector. I think for some people, they will
leave — it’ll be like a bridge too far in terms of policy departures and style. Will it be a risk or like a negative consequence? That remains to be seen.”

 
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Carney again is doing conservative things that Harper would be proud of, yet the fringe righties went extreme and still hate Carney.
nope
despite having the authority and the responsibility to approve a pipeline, Carney will let David Eby or a first nations chief block it

the only way the shovels will start moving dirt on this pipeline is via a majority conservative federal government
 

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Here you go, the pipeline deal that was a pipe dream under Trudeau, Carney delivers a pipeline deal for Alberta. The righties in Alberta are upset because PP couldn't get close to a deal.

Come on. You're trying too hard. There is no deal here.

It's a fools errand trying to get Conservative policies from Liberals.
 

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despite having the authority and the responsibility to approve a pipeline, Carney will let David Eby or a first nations chief block it

the only way the shovels will start moving dirt on this pipeline is via a majority conservative federal government
First nations will hold out for every dollar they can out of this you watch...
 

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Guilbeault to leave cabinet after Carney inks pipeline MOU with Alberta

A Liberal source said Carney is running the Prime Minister’s Office like the “CEO of a Fortune 100 company” that doesn’t “operate on consensus, or a great deal of deliberation and consultation.”

November 27th, 2025

Canadian Identity Minister Steven Guilbeault has resigned from cabinet after Prime Minister Mark Carney signed a memorandum of understanding with Alberta that outlines a roadmap for a new oil pipeline to the Pacific coast.

Guilbeault, who served as environment minister under Justin Trudeau, said in a statement that he “understands the Prime Minister’s efforts to ensure our country remains united,” but that environmental issues “must remain front and centre.”

“That is why I strongly oppose the Memorandum of Understanding between the federal government and the government of Alberta,” read the statement posted on social media.

In particular, Guilbeault cited the lack of Indigenous consultation prior to the MOU, as well as a potential pipeline’s ecological impacts in B.C.’s Great Bear Rainforest, as some of the reasons for his resignation.

Before entering politics, Guilbeault was a Greenpeace activist and co-founded the environmental advocacy group Equiterre.

Earlier this year, Guilbeault endorsed Carney for the Liberal leadership, though a party source told iPolitics that the longtime minister was dissatisfied with the government’s recent rollbacks of Trudeau-era climate measures, like the consumer carbon price, electric-vehicle mandate and oil and gas emissions cap — which Guilbeault confirmed in his statement.

The source, who asked to remain anonymous in order to speak freely, said hat Guilbeault repeatedly fought for the government to prioritize climate action, but he found himself unable to defend the pipeline MOU with Alberta.

They noted that Guilbeault remained open to staying within cabinet until he read the agreement’s final text, which promised to exempt Alberta from the Clean Electricity Regulations and amend the federally-imposed moratorium on oil tankers off the coast of B.C., upon which he made his decision.

While Alberta has promised to strengthen its industrial pricing regime and support the Pathways Alliance’s carbon capture and sequestration project, as part of the agreement, Guilbeault called the tradeoff “a mistake.”

“When I entered politics, it was because I had a deep conviction that I could make a difference in fighting climate change and protecting our environment,” said Guilbeault. “My commitment to leaving a better world for the future of our children and our planet remains unchanged.”

In addition to the Canadian identity file, Guilbeault served as Carney’s Quebec lieutenant in cabinet and was minister responsible for nature, Parks Canada and official languages. In his statement, he promised to stay on as a Liberal MP for the Quebec riding of Laurier—Sainte-Marie.

Earlier on Thursday, Carney sidestepped questions on Guilbeault’s future, as he defended his agreement with Alberta.

Some environmentalist and B.C. Liberal MPs have cried foul over the prospect of shipping oil to the province’s northwest coast, pointing to the region’s ecological importance and the need to transition away from fossil fuels to combat climate change.

At a press conference in Calgary, Carney refused to answer questions on whether the language in the agreement around climate and demands that Alberta would need support from B.C. and affected First Nations to build a pipeline were enough to assuage concerns from Guilbeault.

“This agreement is the beginning of a process, as I said. For example, regarding the environmental aspects, we must we must determine the process for the Pathways carbon capture and clean energy project. And the strengthening within this agreement is a strengthening of the TIER system, meaning the industrial carbon price,” he said referring to Alberta’s pricing scheme, known as the technology innovation and emissions reduction regulation.

“There is a commitment from the province of Alberta to raise the effective price in the TIER system to $130. That is more than six times what the price is now. So, that’s one example, there are others, but one great
example that the strengthening of the of the effective rules or systems regarding the reduction of greenhouse gases is in this agreement.”

But when asked pointedly if those climate commitments were enough to keep Guilbeault in cabinet, Carney said it’s “good enough for the Government of Canada.”

“I am the Prime Minister, and we must make decisions in the interest of Alberta, of Canada, and we must have results, real reductions in greenhouse gases. And that requires investment, investment here in Alberta, investment in British Columbia, investment on a large scale across Canada. And with this agreement, we are creating the right investment conditions,” he said.

Carney’s comments come amid reports that some Liberals in caucus were unhappy with the move to make a deal with Alberta, citing concerns on the impact on their political chances in B.C. and Premier Danielle Smith’s flirtation with Alberta separatism and unwillingness to show leadership on the climate file.

There were also concerns about the lack of consultation with caucus and cabinet members prior to the announcement of the deal with Alberta.

Another Liberal source, who asked not to be identified to discuss the issue
freely, said Carney is running the Prime Minister’s Office like the “CEO of a Fortune 100 company” that doesn’t “operate on consensus, or a great deal of deliberation and consultation.”

The PM, the source said, only brings into the decision-making process a select few people from the PMO and cabinet ministers like Energy Minister Tim Hodgson that are seen as in the “inner circle.”

The source added that this may alienate veterans of the previous Liberal government and there would likely be departures of politician and staff before Christmas, but that wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing as there is a desire to move on from the Trudeau years.

“This is the fortune 100 CEO, get out of my way, party now. I think some people might leave before Christmas or shortly after Christmas, before the House resumes. Do I think it’s a risk to the government? I don’t know. They have parted from the last nine years of some policy decisions and certainly style and approach, so I I don’t know that it’s a risk necessarily for people to move on,” the source said, adding that some of those who have voiced concerns actually won’t walk out the door because of what they would lose.

“Being an MP for some of them is the best job they might ever… and being a staffer at 27 gives you power and a lifestyle that you would never otherwise have in the private sector. I think for some people, they will
leave — it’ll be like a bridge too far in terms of policy departures and style. Will it be a risk or like a negative consequence? That remains to be seen.”

Hopefully its just a letter of appeasement for Alberta.
Raising money for a pipeline while renewables is cheaper is bad business and bad for the planet.

 

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I bet the righties are nowhere nearly as disgusted as Steven Guilbeault by the deal
I think that Pee Pee is more disgusted than even Steven Guilbeault in this respect:


Yet this hypocrite who was in Harper's Government that ruled for a decade accomplished this:

 
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I think that Pee Pee is more disgusted than even Steven Guilbeault in this respect:


Yet this hypocrite who was in Harper's Government that ruled for a decade accomplished this:

This looks like a smart move to appease Smith and Alberta with just a MOU.
No set contracts or numbers that the feds would contribute and it puts the ball back in Smith's court to find someone stupid enough to build a pipeline right now.

 
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Even a broke ass clock is right every once and a while. Carney is what PP campaigned to be last election...a watered down, less obnoxious version of Trudeau. Carney is just better at playing the roll is all
He really isn't and that unfortunately is Carney’s advantage. The illusion of being Poilievre.

Just off fundamentals Poilieve wanted less bureaucracy. Carney has given you more.
 
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