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Brian Stelter CLAIMS Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo NOT Opinion Hosts

bver_hunter

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Lol. You aren't watching them. If you actually did you would hear the critical jibes at Trump.

Sanders is playing nice. If he really liked him he would turn over his donor list.
Go ahead and post some of the videos where they have those jibes against Trump? Waiting to see them, meanwhile the popcorn is in the microwave oven!!

If Trump needs any credibility, then he would reveal his tax returns like he promised to do so in 2015.!!
 

bver_hunter

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Also in that video posted by OP, if you listen to it around the 2.40 minutes mark, the Krystal and Saagar comedians admit that CNN is less partisan than Fox News.
But that is no big deal to them, as Fox News is beyond criticism!!
 

Butler1000

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Also in that video posted by OP, if you listen to it around the 2.40 minutes mark, the Krystal and Saagar comedians admit that CNN is less partisan than Fox News.
But that is no big deal to them, as Fox News is beyond criticism!!
You really don't watch them do you. They trash Fox as much as anyone.
 

Butler1000

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Go ahead and post some of the videos where they have those jibes against Trump? Waiting to see them, meanwhile the popcorn is in the microwave oven!!

If Trump needs any credibility, then he would reveal his tax returns like he promised to do so in 2015.!!
Feel free to peruse their channel. Spend a week or two with them instead of your usual news feeds. What do you have to lose?

Also try Kyle Kulinski as well.
 

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I have a well informed opinion of the United States Government.
No. You don't.
You have badly-informed opinion that is made worse by a weak understanding of politics in general and the US in particular.

But judging from too many polls to name the majority of Americans feel the same way.
I don't know who you are referring to here.
 

Butler1000

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No. You don't.
You have badly-informed opinion that is made worse by a weak understanding of politics in general and the US in particular.



I don't know who you are referring to here.
Keep trying.
 

Butler1000

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Not joking. Your antecedents are all messed up.
Restate the phrase to say what you mean. It's impossible to tell given the grammar of your previous post.
Ok. What do the polls say about Congress's approval rating and how they are governing? And how do they compare historically to other decades?

Another one I saw. 60% of Americans think the two party system is no longer working.

So when I say the system is bad, both parties are bad, and hard systemic changes need to be made, it comes from a good understanding of American Politics.

And what's about to happen in the next 7 weeks is very likely to be the final proof.
 

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I think Lemon and Cuomo are having a bromance. Lemon is gay in real life.
What is your point? Does the fact that Lemon does not look like you enter into it?
 

bver_hunter

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Feel free to peruse their channel. Spend a week or two with them instead of your usual news feeds. What do you have to lose?

Also try Kyle Kulinski as well.

I thought as much, no proof from butler...... just hatred against The Democrats and Biden.

But this partisan pro Trump news feed will not be worth my time!!
 

bver_hunter

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You really don't watch them do you. They trash Fox as much as anyone.
Fox is the most partisan news media that openly support Trump. They have their hosts called Hannity and Pirro who campaigned on Trump's platform.
That is not trashing but a fact. Can you not accept some facts??
 

Butler1000

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Fox is the most partisan news media that openly support Trump. They have their hosts called Hannity and Pirro who campaigned on Trump's platform.
That is not trashing but a fact. Can you not accept some facts??
I guess you havent watch MSNBC........or most of the CNN coverage either.

Its a two way street. Please stop stating the partisanship is only for the GOP by Fox News or that they somehow do it more. The Media have chosen sides. Starting way back.

That is the real fact.
 

Butler1000

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I thought as much, no proof from butler...... just hatred against The Democrats and Biden.

But this partisan pro Trump news feed will not be worth my time!!
Lol. Criticism of Biden(and yes they trash Trump) is not support of Trump. I really have no idea why you can't accept that thought.

Think about this way. If a member of the NDP trashes Trudeau because he failed on election reform, transparency, corruption, and looking like a fool, he isn't supporting the Conservatives.

He is critical of Trudeau. Thats it. Same for a voter for the Green party, the Bloc, whoever. So when someone trashes Biden, they can hold the same idea that Trump is bad too. Think both are bad for the nation(for different reasons). And instead want a third way and consider it important enough to discuss and espouse.

Believe it or not it's not just two choices. The parties and media want you to think that so a voter has to make a limited choice they control. And it's perfectly acceptable to opt out and choose another direction for a vote. A person is not obligated to vote for the so called "lesser of two evils". They can choose to support neither.

And most importantly to try to take that away is the more undemocratic thing to do.
 

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I guess you havent watch MSNBC........or most of the CNN coverage either.

Its a two way street. Please stop stating the partisanship is only for the GOP by Fox News or that they somehow do it more. The Media have chosen sides. Starting way back.

That is the real fact.
I agree the networks have chosen sides but who is more honest with the facts for me makes a difference. Fox has a few good anchors like Wallace, Smith, Bair but most lie, spin and throw out conspiracy theories.
 

Butler1000

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I agree the networks have chosen sides but who is more honest with the facts for me makes a difference. Fox has a few good anchors like Wallace, Smith, Bair but most lie, spin and throw out conspiracy theories.
Rachel Maddow? I watched one episide where the Arctic vortex in Minnesota was the big news and she spin it as a danger because Russia was waiting to hack and shutoff the power. And it was Trumps fault.

Don Lemon was incapable of going on air after the Trump win.

I can go on.

There are no degrees here. I used to be a MSM hound. The 2016 coverage ended that for me.
 

squeezer

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Rachel Maddow? I watched one episide where the Arctic vortex in Minnesota was the big news and she spin it as a danger because Russia was waiting to hack and shutoff the power. And it was Trumps fault.

Don Lemon was incapable of going on air after the Trump win.

I can go on.

There are no degrees here. I used to be a MSM hound. The 2016 coverage ended that for me.
Don Lemon can't stand Trumpfart. If Orangetop was on the ground with his legs on fire Don would piss on his face and walk away laughing but can you blame him, he's a gay black man so he feels slighted on two fronts. Still, though, the CNN hosts attack with facts. Do they make mistakes, sure, everyone does but they do try and stick to the facts. You cannot say the same about 80 maybe 90% of Fox or OAN. They completely twist and spin facts into fiction.

I'm loving how CNN cuts and stops showing Trumps speeches. It's hilarious because it leaves him seething.
 

Butler1000

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Don Lemon can't stand Trumpfart. If Orangetop was on the ground with his legs on fire Don would piss on his face and walk away laughing but can you blame him, he's a gay black man so he feels slighted on two fronts. Still, though, the CNN hosts attack with facts. Do they make mistakes, sure, everyone does but they do try and stick to the facts. You cannot say the same about 80 maybe 90% of Fox or OAN. They completely twist and spin facts into fiction.

I'm loving how CNN cuts and stops showing Trumps speeches. It's hilarious because it leaves him seething.
I've watched the pundits lie about healthcare costs. Lie about polling.

Most of all though spread the war propaganda. Its not just about Trump. Its the information they choose to disseminate is to the benefit of corporate donors. Consistently.

And liitle to no criticism of Biden. Its no longer impartial on either side. So neither gets a pass.

They no longer function as an impartial information source. They exist to enable the biases of a limited audience to sell soap.
 

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Don't bother with mainstream media for what is actually happening on the ground. To get the true pulse of the voters, follow social media.
 

bver_hunter

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Lol. Criticism of Biden(and yes they trash Trump) is not support of Trump. I really have no idea why you can't accept that thought.

Think about this way. If a member of the NDP trashes Trudeau because he failed on election reform, transparency, corruption, and looking like a fool, he isn't supporting the Conservatives.

He is critical of Trudeau. Thats it. Same for a voter for the Green party, the Bloc, whoever. So when someone trashes Biden, they can hold the same idea that Trump is bad too. Think both are bad for the nation(for different reasons). And instead want a third way and consider it important enough to discuss and espouse.

Believe it or not it's not just two choices. The parties and media want you to think that so a voter has to make a limited choice they control. And it's perfectly acceptable to opt out and choose another direction for a vote. A person is not obligated to vote for the so called "lesser of two evils". They can choose to support neither.

And most importantly to try to take that away is the more undemocratic thing to do.
Trash Trump?? Have still to come across one video where Hill Rising trashes Trump. That is why I asked you to post one where they do so!!
All I see out of them is to thrash the people who trash Trump and then they go on to trash Biden!!
Accept that fact for once!!
 
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