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Yes people have gone Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid on cops. Some people don't want to go back to jail and will do anything to avoid it. He had time to arm himself. That's why he shot first. Had the cops not knocked and just busted the door down I think everyone would still be alive. You don't realize the people cops have to deal with. They are the lowest form that society has to offer. Why do you think we have maximum security prisons. These people are so dangerous they need to be locked up 24/7. The guards even need to take extreme measures to protect themselves. This is why the cops act the way that they do. They could easily run into someone like this who has no conscious and feel like they have nothing to lose. They can't let their guard down and have to treat every situation with this potential.
I am sorry to have to say that is all bs, because I have no desire to insult you.

But there is no reason for Police acting like they are in a war zone. The subject will come out the apartment sooner or later. Patience over violence.
 
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I am sorry to have to say that is all bs, because I have no desire to insult you.

But there is no reason for Police acting like they are in a war zone. The subject will come out the apartment sooner or later. Patience over violence.
It's not BS. Talk to any cop who have carried out search warrants and ask them how dangerous it is. Sorry you have no idea what you're talking about. Anything can happen when you're dealing with criminals. In this case they weren't but that's not the fault of the officers carrying out the warrant. They had nothing to do with the events leading up to it. Again they were shot at first. If that doesn't happen everyone is still alive.
 
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They lie often. Often as rug.

They lie solo, duo, in cahoots, in cliques, in groups, en masse. Under oath on the stand, in their reports, on warrant requests.
Ah yes. The cry of the victimized. The police are out to get you. They have enough criminals to deal with. They don't need to make shit up to frame people. There are actual criminals out there although I don't think you believe that. You will take the word of criminals over police. You're so far gone it's pathetic. Have cops lied? Yes, but it's very rare. I will take their word over a criminals word all day.
 

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It's not BS. Talk to any cop who have carried out search warrants and ask them how dangerous it is. Sorry you have no idea what you're talking about. Anything can happen when you're dealing with criminals. In this case they weren't but that's not the fault of the officers carrying out the warrant. They had nothing to do with the events leading up to it. Again they were shot at first. If that doesn't happen everyone is still alive.
I generally avoid talking to cops. But I cannot recall any cases in Ontario where policemen have been shot while attempting to serve a warrant or summons. I can remember a case from Alberta, where somebody set a trap for RCMP officers.

I blame the fiasco on the tactics used by the police. If they had knocked on the door and waited, maybe behind a shield, until they were able to talk to somebody, this would not have happened.

Barging through a closed door in the middle of the night is not appropriate outside of a war zone.
 

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I have a friend who lives in a nice neighborhood in Ontario, who was attacked on night at 3 AM by some thugs who broke down his front door and sent him to the hospital for a month.

If somebody breaks down my front door in the middle of the night, they will be shot at.
Well as a judge once said to me that if I wasn’t in that area doing what I was doing I wouldn’t be in front of him ! So if that’s gonna be your reaction than you deal with the consequences man . I keep a bat behind my bedroom door maybe your a 9mm or a .38
I don’t involve myself in shit that will have the cops at my door and I don’t have people in my life that would be involved with the dicks so ,,
Everybody had an opinion bro I just don’t agree with ya .
 

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Well as a judge once said to me that if I wasn’t in that area doing what I was doing I wouldn’t be in front of him ! So if that’s gonna be your reaction than you deal with the consequences man . I keep a bat behind my bedroom door maybe your a 9mm or a .38
I don’t involve myself in shit that will have the cops at my door and I don’t have people in my life that would be involved with the dicks so ,,
Everybody had an opinion bro I just don’t agree with ya .
I do not think we are in disagreement. I have never been "in that area doing what I was doing", so I do not expect ever to have somebody force their way into my house in the middle of the night. But if it should happen, I would be prepared to shoot at them.

Fortunately, the police in Ontario does not use war zone tactics, so if somebody breaks down my front door and is barging in, they are not the police.

I live in the countryside and I am pretty well armed.
 

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No knock warrants in stand-your-ground states can create a situation where everyone involved has a legal right to shoot each other.
That's bad.
 
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I generally avoid talking to cops. But I cannot recall any cases in Ontario where policemen have been shot while attempting to serve a warrant or summons. I can remember a case from Alberta, where somebody set a trap for RCMP officers.

I blame the fiasco on the tactics used by the police. If they had knocked on the door and waited, maybe behind a shield, until they were able to talk to somebody, this would not have happened.

Barging through a closed door in the middle of the night is not appropriate outside of a war zone.
We are not talking about Ontario. We are talking about the U.S which is a different beast all together. They can't wait after knocking. What if the criminal they are after is armed to the teeth? The whole point of surprise is to decrease the chance of a gun fight and get them before they can fire.
 

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danmand

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We are not talking about Ontario. We are talking about the U.S which is a different beast all together. They can't wait after knocking. What if the criminal they are after is armed to the teeth? The whole point of surprise is to decrease the chance of a gun fight and get them before they can fire.
Well, the tactics are not working in the USA.

No knock warrants in stand-your-ground states can create a situation where everyone involved has a legal right to shoot each other.
That's bad.
 

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Wow, it looks worse and worse every day.
Major coverup.
This is really looking like a whitewash.
Actually it's much. much worse than that.

As I said, the grand jury SHOW is a total AG affair. He decides what is put or not put forth before the grand jury to consider.

Now consider this:

The grand jury was NOT given any option by AG Daniel Cameron to determine whether there were probable grounds to believe that any of the cops should face an indictment for any type of the various manslaughter charges that are available under the state of Kentucky's criminal code.

Simply put, AG Daniel Cameron determine by himself that NO there will NOT be any manslaughter indictments and thus the grand jury did not have any manslaughter indictment to deliberate and decide upon.
 

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Well, the tactics are not working in the USA.
Not true. Do you realize how many of these situations go off without a hitch. These are rare circumstances where someone gets shot. It's very dangerous for everyone. There are over 2 million active warrants every day in the U.S.

 

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Actually it's much. much worse than that.

As I said, the grand jury SHOW is a total AG affair. He decides what is put or not put forth before the grand jury to consider.

Now consider this:

The grand jury was NOT given any option by AG Daniel Cameron to determine whether there were probable grounds to believe that any of the cops should face an indictment for any type of the various manslaughter charges that are available under the state of Kentucky's criminal code.

Simply put, AG Daniel Cameron determine by himself that NO there will NOT be any manslaughter indictments and thus the grand jury did not have any manslaughter indictment to deliberate and decide upon.
Considering the grand jury is secret and none of the transcripts have been released, How could you possibly know what he presented? You're just parroting what the media is saying. Nobody knows except the people involved in the process. You're just speculating but making it sound like fact. You don't know what AG Cameron determined. You might be right but you might be wrong. He could have not pursued manslaughter charges because he knew he couldn't win. Why waste all that money on a case you can't win? They already lost 12 million paying Breeanna's family.
 

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Actually it's much. much worse than that.

As I said, the grand jury SHOW is a total AG affair. He decides what is put or not put forth before the grand jury to consider.

Now consider this:

The grand jury was NOT given any option by AG Daniel Cameron to determine whether there were probable grounds to believe that any of the cops should face an indictment for any type of the various manslaughter charges that are available under the state of Kentucky's criminal code.

Simply put, AG Daniel Cameron determine by himself that NO there will NOT be any manslaughter indictments and thus the grand jury did not have any manslaughter indictment to deliberate and decide upon.
Agreed, Cameron is in trouble.
 

danmand

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No knock warrants in stand-your-ground states can create a situation where everyone involved has a legal right to shoot each other.
That's bad.
Not true. Do you realize how many of these situations go off without a hitch. These are rare circumstances where someone gets shot. It's very dangerous for everyone. There are over 2 million active warrants every day in the U.S.

It is good for you that you are happy with the police using war zone tactics in USA.
 
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