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Bob Corker Says Trump’s Recklessness Threatens ‘World War III’

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Bob Corker Says Trump’s Recklessness Threatens ‘World War III’
By JONATHAN MARTIN and MARK LANDLEROCT. 8, 2017


The senator, Mr. Trump said, had “begged” for his endorsement. “I said ‘NO’ and he dropped out (said he could not win without my endorsement),” the president wrote. He also said that Mr. Corker had asked to be secretary of state. “I said ‘NO THANKS,’” he wrote.
Mr. Corker flatly disputed that account, saying Mr. Trump had urged him to run again, and promised to endorse him if he did. But the exchange laid bare a deeper rift: The senator views Mr. Trump as given to irresponsible outbursts — a political novice who has failed to make the transition from show business.
Mr. Trump poses such an acute risk, the senator said, that a coterie of senior administration officials must protect him from his own instincts. “I know for a fact that every single day at the White House, it’s a situation of trying to contain him,” Mr. Corker said in a telephone interview.
The deeply personal back-and-forth will almost certainly rupture what had been a friendship with a fellow real estate developer turned elected official, one of the few genuine relationships Mr. Trump had developed on Capitol Hill. Still, even as he leveled his stinging accusations, Mr. Corker repeatedly said on Sunday that he liked Mr. Trump, until now an occasional golf partner, and wished him “no harm.”
The White House did not respond to a request for comment on Mr. Corker’s remarks.
Mr. Trump’s feud with Mr. Corker is particularly perilous given that the president has little margin for error as he tries to pass a landmark overhaul of the tax code — his best, and perhaps last, hope of producing a major legislative achievement this year.
If Senate Democrats end up unified in opposition to the promised tax bill, Mr. Trump could lose the support of only two of the Senate’s 52 Republicans to pass it. That is the same challenging math that Mr. Trump and Senate Republican leaders faced in their failed effort to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.
Mr. Corker could also play a key role if Mr. Trump follows through on his threat to “decertify” the Iran nuclear deal, kicking to Congress the issue of whether to restore sanctions on Tehran and effectively scuttle the pact.
Republicans could hold off on sanctions but use the threat of them to force Iran back to the negotiating table — a strategy being advocated by Senator Tom Cotton, the Arkansas Republican. But that approach could leave the United States isolated, and it will be up to Mr. Corker to balance opposition to the deal with the wishes of those, including some of Mr. Trump’s own aides, who want to change the accord but not blow it up.
Beyond the Iran deal, Mr. Corker’s committee holds confirmation hearings on Mr. Trump’s ambassadorial appointments. If the president were to oust Rex W. Tillerson as secretary of state, as some expect, Mr. Corker would lead the hearings on Mr. Trump’s nominee for the post.
In a 25-minute conversation, Mr. Corker, speaking carefully and purposefully, seemed to almost find cathartic satisfaction by portraying Mr. Trump in terms that most senior Republicans use only in private.
The senator, who is close to Mr. Tillerson, invoked comments that the president made on Twitter last weekend in which he appeared to undercut Mr. Tillerson’s negotiations with North Korea.
“A lot of people think that there is some kind of ‘good cop, bad cop’ act underway, but that’s just not true,” Mr. Corker said.
Without offering specifics, he said Mr. Trump had repeatedly undermined diplomacy with his Twitter fingers. “I know he has hurt, in several instances, he’s hurt us as it relates to negotiations that were underway by tweeting things out,” Mr. Corker said.
All but inviting his colleagues to join him in speaking out about the president, Mr. Corker said his concerns about Mr. Trump were shared by nearly every Senate Republican.
“Look, except for a few people, the vast majority of our caucus understands what we’re dealing with here,” he said, adding that “of course they understand the volatility that we’re dealing with and the tremendous amount of work that it takes by people around him to keep him in the middle of the road.”
As for the tweets that set off the feud on Sunday morning, Mr. Corker expressed a measure of powerlessness.
“I don’t know why the president tweets out things that are not true,” he said. “You know he does it, everyone knows he does it, but he does.”
The senator recalled four conversations this year, a mix of in-person meetings and phone calls, in which he said the president had encouraged him to run for re-election. Mr. Trump, he said, repeatedly indicated he wanted to come to Tennessee for an early rally on Mr. Corker’s behalf and even telephoned him last Monday to try to get him to reconsider his decision to retire.
“When I told him that that just wasn’t in the cards, he said, ‘You know, if you run, I’ll endorse you.’ I said, ‘Mr. President, it’s just not in the cards; I’ve already made a decision.’ So then we began talking about other candidates that were running.”
One of the most prominent establishment-aligned Republicans to develop a relationship with Mr. Trump, the senator said he did not regret standing with him during the campaign last year.
“I would compliment him on things that he did well, and I’d criticize things that were inappropriate,” he said. “So it’s been really the same all the way through.”
A former mayor of Chattanooga who became wealthy in construction, Mr. Corker, 65, has carved out a reputation over two terms in the Senate as a reliable, but not overly partisan, Republican.
While he opposed President Barack Obama’s divisive nuclear deal with Iran, he did not prevent it from coming to a vote on the Senate floor, which exposed him to fierce fire from conservatives, who blamed him for its passage.
Mr. Trump picked up on that theme hours after his initial tweets, writing that “Bob Corker gave us the Iran Deal, & that’s about it. We need HealthCare, we need Tax Cuts/Reform, we need people that can get the job done!”
Mr. Corker was briefly a candidate to be Mr. Trump’s running mate in 2016, but he withdrew his name from consideration and later expressed ambivalence about Mr. Trump’s campaign, in part because he said he found it frustrating to discuss foreign policy with him.
To some extent, the rift between the two men had been building for months, as Mr. Corker repeatedly pointed out on Sunday to argue that his criticism was not merely that of a man liberated from facing the voters again.
After a report last week that Mr. Tillerson had once referred to Mr. Trump as a “moron,” Mr. Corker told reporters that Mr. Tillerson was one of three officials helping to “separate our country from chaos.” Those remarks were repeated on “Fox News Sunday,” which may have prompted Mr. Trump’s outburst.
In August, after Mr. Trump’s equivocal response to the deadly clashes in Charlottesville, Va., Mr. Corker told reporters that the president “has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful.”
He said on Sunday that he had made all those comments deliberately, aiming them at “an audience of one, plus those people who are closely working around with him, what I would call the good guys.” He was referring to Mr. Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and the White House chief of staff, John F. Kelly.
“As long as there are people like that around him who are able to talk him down when he gets spun up, you know, calm him down and continue to work with him before a decision gets made, I think we’ll be fine,” he said.
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Mr. Corker would not directly answer when asked whether he thought Mr. Trump was fit for the presidency. But he did say that the commander in chief was not fully aware of the power of his office.
“I don’t think he appreciates that when the president of the United States speaks and says the things that he does, the impact that it has around the world, especially in the region that he’s addressing,” he said. “And so, yeah, it’s concerning to me.”
 

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Bob Corker Says Trump’s Recklessness Threatens ‘World War III’
Fuck Corker. His early support for Trump as a GOP candidate put him in the white house. So Trump screwed him - welcome to the real world. Corkers reckless lust for power has put a 'fucking moron' in the white house and now he is concerned ?
 

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Corker just doesn't matter. He doesn't have a track record of finding solutions to any political problems. I'm not sure why anyone cares what he has to say about these issues, except partisans who can't resist a GOP senator bad mouthing Trump, not that such thing is anything new.
 

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Corker just doesn't matter. He doesn't have a track record of finding solutions to any political problems. I'm not sure why anyone cares what he has to say about these issues, except partisans who can't resist a GOP senator bad mouthing Trump, not that such thing is anything new.
Trump is the great divider.
He works by pandering to his base and alienating all else.
Now he's taken a majority Republican party and split it into those for him and those against him.
He won't get anything done now.
 

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Corker just doesn't matter. He doesn't have a track record of finding solutions to any political problems. I'm not sure why anyone cares what he has to say about these issues, except partisans who can't resist a GOP senator bad mouthing Trump, not that such thing is anything new.
There are only 100 senators and only 52 are Republicans. He certainly does matter.
 

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It is notable that the only thing being discussed is whether Corker is relevant. Nothing about what he is saying. Just because he is not running for re-election or whatever else, he has a point. That is that he is putting the world closer to nuclear war because of his impetuous tweets and undermining everyone any anything that does not overtly approve of him personally.

Including diplomats.

You might get all excited about his fire and brimstone tweets and not value the diplomacy that ha many times averted war. But what will you think if he does start a real war against the United States with his Twitter wars?
 

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It is notable that the only thing being discussed is whether Corker is relevant. Nothing about what he is saying. Just because he is not running for re-election or whatever else, he has a point. That is that he is putting the world closer to nuclear war because of his impetuous tweets and undermining everyone any anything that does not overtly approve of him personally.

Including diplomats.

You might get all excited about his fire and brimstone tweets and not value the diplomacy that ha many times averted war. But what will you think if he does start a real war against the United States with his Twitter wars?
I think that wars don't start over Twitter insults/provocations.

You might get all excited about his fire and brimstone tweets, but what will you think if the North Korea situation stabilizes as a result of Trump's overall strategy (of which his tweets, I'm sure, are merely a part)?
 

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I think that wars don't start over Twitter insults/provocations.

You might get all excited about his fire and brimstone tweets, but what will you think if the North Korea situation stabilizes as a result of Trump's overall strategy (of which his tweets, I'm sure, are merely a part)?
How that going so for ? :doh:

Hard to believe you posted that.
 

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How that going so for ? :doh:

Hard to believe you posted that.
Which part do you find hard to believe - that wars don't start over tweets, or that there is more than just tweeting to Trump's foreign policy vis a vis North Korea? Before you answer, just realize it will say a lot more about your belief system than anything else, since I don't think anyone outside of the cabinet is fully privy to the totality of the WH strategy.

Or do you know something the rest of us don't? If so, please share!
 

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I think that wars don't start over Twitter insults/provocations.

You might get all excited about his fire and brimstone tweets, but what will you think if the North Korea situation stabilizes as a result of Trump's overall strategy (of which his tweets, I'm sure, are merely a part)?
And by "stabilize" you actually mean "lose", that NK will develop an ability to hit the US with a nuclear weapon Trump's watch
 

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I think that wars don't start over Twitter insults/provocations.

You might get all excited about his fire and brimstone tweets, but what will you think if the North Korea situation stabilizes as a result of Trump's overall strategy (of which his tweets, I'm sure, are merely a part)?
I'd be happy, and relieved as hell! I care about results and I back anyone whom I think will do the best job.

As for tweets not starting a war. I suppose you could also say that Facebook strategy never elected a President or that Youtube never recruited terrorists...before they did.

Personally insulting an egomaniacal Dictator like Kim Jung Un and threatening to kill him and destroy his country is exactly what will start a war with North Korea.
 

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Which part do you find hard to believe - that wars don't start over tweets, or that there is more than just tweeting to Trump's foreign policy vis a vis North Korea? Before you answer, just realize it will say a lot more about your belief system than anything else, since I don't think anyone outside of the cabinet is fully privy to the totality of the WH strategy.

Or do you know something the rest of us don't? If so, please share!
How naive can you get ????? This is the President of the USA - the guy who is the commander in chief and has access to the nuclear codes ( :faint: ). Of course his fucking tweets count ! They are a sample of his stability (nonexistent), attitude and possible actions. They are available real time in every corner of the globe. When Fucking Moron tweets to Rex Tillerson who is negotiating with China, S. Korea & N. Korea .... ~ 'Your wasting your time ... there is only one solution .. ex: thermonuclear warfare' what effect does that have on not only N. Korea's unstable looney but S. Korea who will loose 13,000,000 citizens in the first 30 minutes from just the conventional weapons pointed at them ?

If the Fucking Moron didn't have the ability to tweet, people could buffer the fact that his is a racist, incompetent, insecure narcissist but every tweet just reaffirms his fucking moronic personality. SAD
 

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Which part do you find hard to believe - that wars don't start over tweets, or that there is more than just tweeting to Trump's foreign policy vis a vis North Korea? Before you answer, just realize it will say a lot more about your belief system than anything else, since I don't think anyone outside of the cabinet is fully privy to the totality of the WH strategy.

Or do you know something the rest of us don't? If so, please share!
Are you saying the tweeting and childish name calling is part of an overall strategy?
I repeat " How is this working so far".
 

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Are you saying the tweeting and childish name calling is part of an overall strategy?
I repeat " How is this working so far".
That's called dodging a question by answering with a question.

I, like you, am not privy to what Trump's overall strategy is, but one thing Trump has made clear to everyone is that he won't be revealing it to us. He believes that it's bad negotiation tactics to reveal your hand, and I can understand his point.

As to "how is this working so far", as far as I can tell, there's been no change in the relationship between NK and the US as a result of Trump's tweets (in conjunction with the backroom diplomatic efforts which I'm sure we will know nothing about) - no improvement, and no degradation. NK has simply progressed along the path they were already on. China, however, appears to be more on side than previously, which is helpful. As to whether the tactics of the Trump WH will effect some change, positive or negative, we'll have to wait and see. After all, this problem has existed for over 50 years and several Presidents. Although you may have thought Trump would be pretty effective compared to other Presidents, surely you didn't think he would solve the NK problem in 9 months?

One thing I have learned is that when you have to negotiate with a crazy person, you have to negotiate crazily, or there will be no deal.
 

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The Americans are getting ready to invoke the 25th Amendment. Kelly, Tillerson, Mattis with support from the republicans in congress.
 

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The Americans are getting ready to invoke the 25th Amendment. Kelly, Tillerson, Mattis with support from the republicans in congress.
When you post something that you wish would happen, you should say so. Otherwise, it just comes across as a preposterous prediction.
 

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When you post something that you wish would happen, you should say so. Otherwise, it just comes across as a preposterous prediction.
You don't say?
 

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You don't say?
I suggested that you clarify your post. Naturally, you failed to do so, and posted something else that made no sense. Care to try again?
 
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