Avoid Camilla 6858 on Leolist

[Alma@ALO]

I'm sorry, Alma. I do believe some guys here can be jerks - I've heard stories but it's pretty obvious that both Camilla and gtmoney62 are the same person.

I wish this forum would ban accounts by IP, it would make this place much, much better.

You could very well be right in this instance. Who really knows 100% ?
However the issues being brought up dont just start and end on this thread. The issues are valid and wide spread. and some new people on this board don't get it and still need to be trained.

 

[TheGuitarMan]

Correct, I totally agree.
"Looking like "an" illiterate"



She shouldn't have to. Good terb guys ususally start their intro if they are serious like this:
"Good afternoon, i am xyz from terb/lyla and am looking for some info on rates services and location. Looking to book"




She asked for etransfer for security. To ensure the time slot wouldnt be wasted on a no show/fake booker/time waster. You had cash money thats great we all love cash ...from someone who can authenticate themselves.
After all its us indys who r letting a complete stranger into our homes. Why couldnt u make her feel more at ease or safe?

Not going to repeat myself as to why I shouldn't give my terb handle so drop it. Etransfer is too sketchy, she can easily run with my money. Unless this business becomes legal, cash will always be my method of payment. Don't forget who's more at risk here at the end of the day. It's only fair we ask for body shot proof of pics. If girls can do that, it will terminate the doubts.

 

[2nd Ranger]

well...lol...truth be told unless i knew an SP very very well, i would never send money through e-transfer, that would be crazy and an almost sure bet to get scammed.

As for this little feud...i'm on the fence though i'm leaning on the Guitar side of things if only because of the dubious past and un-agency affiliation this story seems to indicate. I could be wrong mind you.

Edit: Alma, i'm not sure how making an e-transfer makes you feel any safer. All it would do really, is guarantee you an appointment, the guy whoever he may be could still turn out to be a jerk. On the other hand, from my perspective i wouldn't do it cuz i'd know i'd probably get scammed out of my money.

 

[courtneypowers]

You can also avoid these situations, if you are going to use leolost, stick to girls who’s pics have been verified. The site gives the option for girls to verify pics so you don’t even have to ask for more pics.

 

[Alma@ALO]

Well backpage is down so now I use Leolist. Please be cautious of Camilla on that site. She is not real and there were multiple girls using that same number. Her attitude and services are terrible. I saw another girl using that same number, and had a mediocre experience. To cut the chase, services were not received upon session.

so did u have a session with her or no?

Not going to repeat myself as to why I shouldn't give my terb handle so drop it.

You dont have to, i already know.

Etransfer is too sketchy, she can easily run with my money. Unless this business becomes legal, cash will always be my method of payment.

Reputable ladies do etransfer w reg clients. I totally understand your logic here.

Don't forget who's more at risk here at the end of the day.

I know very well who's more at risk. We see how many clients in a day? Put our safety at risk everyday. You hobby once in awhile u might get ripped off maybe once in your life or maybe never and getting charged with buying sex is hard to prove. I honestly cant remember the last time i seen an article in ottawa of a john being arrested.

It's only fair we ask for body shot proof of pics. If girls can do that, it will terminate the doubts.

Fair enough. It should also alleviate doubts when u call from a local number and not some us text app number.
Anyways the review itself looked to be more of a reinforcement of this alledged pimp bawdy house that was brought up before on terb since leolist came out someone couldnt wait to post about it again.
I dont think u actually saw her tho i do believe her in that way as u still have ur money bc u just said at the end of this thread "i had cash i could have given her".

2nd ranger: i never said etransfer makes u feel safe i said peoole use it as a way to reinforce the time slot doesnt get wasted by fake bookers ect. I understand his reservations about etransfer to a new sp. Ive said many times to do that only with reputable providers. He is right to feel sketchy however he did say that he was there before getting serviced from another provider. The op is sketchy that is all.



Here are other numbers to avoid. My guess it could be an agency.

6134156858

6134103736

6134106217


https://www.leolist.cc/personals/female-companions/south-eastern-ontario/ottawa_college_girl-3544950


https://escortbabylon.net/#!/ottawa/post/6134156858/26043816/26455988[/QUOTE]

 

[Alma@ALO]

You can also avoid these situations, if you are going to use leolost, stick to girls who’s pics have been verified. The site gives the option for girls to verify pics so you don’t even have to ask for more pics.

Yes exactly.

He wasnt looking to avoid a situation though. I believe he was just bored tonight amd needed some masala.

 

[TheGuitarMan]

so did u have a session with her or no?



You dont have to, i already know.



Reputable ladies do etransfer w reg clients. I totally understand your logic here.


I know very well who's more at risk. We see how many clients in a day? Put our safety at risk everyday. You hobby once in awhile u might get ripped off maybe once in your life or maybe never and getting charged with buying sex is hard to prove. I honestly cant remember the last time i seen an article in ottawa of a john being arrested.





Fair enough. It should also alleviate doubts when u call from a local number and not some us text app number.
Anyways the review itself looked to be more of a reinforcement of this alledged pimp bawdy house that was brought up before on terb since leolist came out someone couldnt wait to post about it again.
I dont think u actually saw her tho i do believe her in that way as u still have ur money bc u just said at the end of this thread "i had cash i could have given her".

2nd ranger: i never said etransfer makes u feel safe i said peoole use it as a way to reinforce the time slot doesnt get wasted by fake bookers ect. I understand his reservations about etransfer to a new sp. Ive said many times to do that only with reputable providers. He is right to feel sketchy however he did say that he was there before getting serviced from another provider. The op is sketchy that is all.



Here are other numbers to avoid. My guess it could be an agency.

6134156858

6134103736

6134106217


https://www.leolist.cc/personals/female-companions/south-eastern-ontario/ottawa_college_girl-3544950


https://escortbabylon.net/#!/ottawa/post/6134156858/26043816/26455988

[/QUOTE]

Did you even read what I had written about her? This is the last time I will reply to you, Alma. Im not going to run in circles with you. Go back and reread please. I made this post for a reason and no matter what kind of threat he/she posses, I will not shut it down.

I am not a regular client of her, so etransfer is out of the question. Stop bringing this up. Doesn't matter if you see hundreds or one client a day, when shit hits the fan, we guys will be in cuffs. I agree that you girls are taking the risk of being targeted by pimps, or fall under a bad situation with a abusive drunk. Sometimes you girls can get hurt. But the same can happen to us guys too when some thug pulls a gun/knife on us from a misleading ad. My point is, we are worse of than you girls and no backing of law enforcement. All I ask, and I know I speak for many, is just a pic with proof. I'm going to leave it at that. My weekend is short and no luck in finding an SP tonight. Have a good night.


Oh and Cortney, I'm still trying to familiarize myself with Leolist as I always use backpage. Some providers actually do send proof of pic and I always end up booking if they are true to thier pictures.

 

[Alison_xox]

Sorry to introduce in your conversation guys (and ladies) , but I need to say something...

1st topic etransfer : A lot of clients are booking their first session with me by etransfer .. Of course I am not a new provider , I've been here a long time , have reviews everywhere , I have the same number since forever and it is easy to verify on the board if I am legit or not. It would be totally insane to jeopardize my well built reputation over a 50$ deposit.... Also , yes transfer makes me feel secure because nobody that would hurt me would previously let me know his real name. That would be very stupid. Now if I may , maybe after a little search it would make you guys feel more open mind about etransfer if the provider is well established.

2nd topic References: After you met the provider that is well established and makes you feel safe about etransfer , you don't need to etransfer ever again because you now have references from that provider... Book everyone you want and just give the new provider that reference.....

3rd topic : Cerb or Terb Handle ... Why would someone prefer not giving his handle ? I mean it can't be for a matter of privacy since it is not your real name .. I just don't understand that part ... Maybe someone could explain it to me ? You are avoiding transfer to get reference on your fist step ... SO EASY !!

 

[courtneypowers]

Personally I never send pictures. So I don’t blame her, I post various pictures plus links to twitter and a website. If that’s not enough proof than their loss.
I would also be skeptic of a texting app asking for pics.

Sounds like neither side trusted one another so probably a good just to both move onto a new session. Everyone is different how the book/screen so both sides need to trust their instinct, not a good feeling than move on.

 

[Fit4life]

You can also avoid these situations, if you are going to use leolost, stick to girls who’s pics have been verified. The site gives the option for girls to verify pics so you don’t even have to ask for more pics.

I heard that once your pics are verified you can go back into your profile and change them all to new fake ones. Cant remember where i read that but that sort of defeats the purpose

 

[Dbass34]

Wowwww... good pop corn here, very funny to read all that drama.

Ok, I feel like playing the Devil advocate here...

First: about e-transfer : Guys NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, EVER!!!!!! Thanks God for me, I don't need that anymore cause I've meet enough providers to have my references, but I will be always against it and will go on every forum that I know to say that it's bad. GUYS, DON'T DO IT! There are tones of workaround, just open your eyes and read at the proper places.

Second: Like 2nd Ranger, I have a tendency to lean on TheGuitarMan side about the un-agency.

Third: TheGuitardMan, your name sounds familiar to me, I'm pretty sure I did read some stuff you wrote before, but according to what is currently available, you are a member of Terb only since last January and have only 37 posts (including 11 posts only in this threat that you started). Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you had more and reactivate a old account, deleted some past posts, I don't know, whatever... but the result now (3 months and a half, after you signed up on Terb) is that what we have on you is a guy who has only negative comments about providers, who calls out girls, who tells hobbyists to avoid this girl or that girl. You also have a few posts where you only ask for references about girls, which is ok to ask, but you don't seems to give a lot to contribute positively to the Ottawa scene. I like the comments made about you, saying that you are playing the detective... you should stop that for a bit and hobby. Plus, I'm not too sure if all you comments on this threat were appropriate. So, my advise to you is that maybe you should shill out a bit, man, play some guitar, built your resume and report a bit of your fantastic experiences you may had with the Ottawa providers scene. How's that?

My 2 cents, this morning... have a good Sunday all :yo:

 

[Alma@ALO]

Can someone explain the verification process of leolist?

Just as an example: https://www.leolist.cc/personals/female-companions/south-eastern-ontario/ottawa_canadian_beauty_amazing_curves_top_reviewed-3544766 (she doesn't look like a faker btw).

Anyone can download those pictures and post them in their own fake ads.

The only way to prove an ad is with a phone number. And in a picture it's not full proof. The paper with the phone number should be in a video (https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?632697-Ads-Proven-with-the-VIDEO-Method-(-Written-on-Paper)&p=6092494#post6092494).

Am I missing something with the "LeoList papers"?

Leolist.cc has a button called verify. Click on it and go read for yourself.
https://www.leolist.cc/verified

If you want a website with video verification why dont u make ur own website? U apparantly have enough time on your hands to make one bob.

 

[Alma@ALO]

Im only.going to say 1 thing on the verification topic.

If you cant even trust a girl in a pic holding up a number or a leolist sign for verification then its you who has the problem. There is no way to satisy you. Just like in the real world some people are impossible to satisfy they complain about their food being cold or burnt or whatever, they complain their haircut is too short or the wrong color, you cant please everyone.

Girls have a process they have to go through to get verified and when they do the site gives them preferential treatment.
Sometimes the world doesnt need to change, its the person in the world who needs to do the changing.

 

[CamillaBR]

Can someone explain the verification process of leolist?

Just as an example: https://www.leolist.cc/personals/female-companions/south-eastern-ontario/ottawa_canadian_beauty_amazing_curves_top_reviewed-3544766 (she doesn't look like a faker btw).

Anyone can download those pictures and post them in their own fake ads.

The only way to prove an ad is with a phone number. And in a picture it's not full proof. The paper with the phone number should be in a video (https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?632697-Ads-Proven-with-the-VIDEO-Method-(-Written-on-Paper)&p=6092494#post6092494).

Am I missing something with the "LeoList papers"?

Trying to not comment on this thread so I don't get my name mixed but here is a little info about Leolist's verified process:

- Anyone can download those pictures and post them in their own fake ads.


Yes, of course they can, but there's a different between verified pictures and the other pictures you see in the ad. With LeoList, you CAN'T switch the verified pictures for other ones... You can only remove them or add more to be verified.

THE BEST way to use Leolist, as a consumer, is to search by directory.

> https://www.leolist.cc/directory/south-eastern-ontario

> Search by city.

Directory ONLY SHOWS the verified picture plus the provider information. So you will see her verified pictures, her schedule, etc and at the bottom of that, you will see a link for her ad. From there, it's a judgmental call.


Do the verified pictures match the rest of the pictures posted on the ad? Is the provider well reviewed? It's not rocket science, really.

The paper with the phone number should be in a video

I don't see the difference here. You are skeptical that someone will "get the verified pictures from someone else and post in their ad" (not how it works) but you know a scam-provider could just download the video and post on her ad as well, right?

Videos are a bonus, there are no regulations on them and because Leolist doesn't verify videos... they are much, much easier to copy.

 

[Cowboy Kenny]

Make no mistake GTMONEY62 is cupids angels escorts, the unagency known for its total disregard for clients and workers. They operate out of rented condos in the preston street are as well as lebreton flats.They were banned from terb last year under the screebnname gtmoney for there abusive coments here on terb while trying to defend their sketchy operation.The comments above from cammy19 and gtmoney62 are clearly the same person and writing style.

That said it sounds like more than a few people in this thread could learn a thing or two about diplomacy and how to conduct themselves in public.

 

[2nd Ranger]

case solved. lol

 

[lipsbreasts and ass]

Thanks for the warning!

Well backpage is down so now I use Leolist. Please be cautious of Camilla on that site. She is not real and there were multiple girls using that same number. Her attitude and services are terrible. I saw another girl using that same number, and had a mediocre experience. To cut the chase, services were not received upon session.


Here are other numbers to avoid. My guess it could be an agency.

6134156858

6134103736

6134106217


https://www.leolist.cc/personals/female-companions/south-eastern-ontario/ottawa_college_girl-3544950


https://escortbabylon.net/#!/ottawa/post/6134156858/26043816/26455988

 

[2nd Ranger]

You gave your point of view and the OP did the same. Who lies and who's telling the truth, only you 2 clowns know for real. One has to admit that you've made yourself a reputation, not all of it glowing it seems. A small resume, there are many others but i didn't bother.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...on-non-delivered-services&highlight=un-agency

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Cupids-Angels-agency-unagency-(613)-878-6353

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?597538-Morgan-9360&highlight=un-agency

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?581738-Little-Italy&highlight=un-agency

 

[hoffa68]

So we the members of Terb are quite familiar with this pimp and his unagency. Unfortunately there was a time when I didn't know about it and fell victim to it. Twice in 2 different locations. Both times the woman that greeted me were not the ones in the add and did not provide the services promised. One even charged me more than we agreed upon. Both were obvious. One was supposed to be Latina and ended up being black. The other had tattoos in the pic and did not. The funny thing is both were attractive and I would have seen them had I seen their real pics.

Anyways the point our pimp made in his last entry is we haven't dealt with the initial issue of the OP making up the review. So lets do that. The OP has NOT made up a review. He provided a posting that warned all of us that this provider is using a phone number associated with the well known unagency. Furthermore they wanted to at least prove that the provider was who she said she was. Known unagency and unwillingness to provide proof means Danger Will Robinson Danger. So he posted here. Maybe he should have posted in the 411 section but none the less here we are.

I dont appreciate when we a hobbyist attacks providers on a personal level. Calling them illiterate especially with autocorrect never working. Dont read through my posts. You will find lots of spelling and grammatical errors.

 

[2nd Ranger]

if the ad you refer too includes this tidbit i find it hilarious.

'Full training is provided'

One would assume what??? To be fair it's an ad for CB so i'm not sure it applies here