Another Shooting! Near Spadina and Nassau.

[andydude]

while carding is controversial and i cant think that this could have been prevented with carding (fights erupt in chinatown on weekends ALL THE TIME, a mixture of drunk teens/young adults + weapons). So heres another statistic for you to ponder, in the us, 89% of violent crimes are committed by african americans. So lets for a second take color out of it.

lets assume that most crimes are commited by men, ages 18-29, who are unemployed (kid on the corner at 2pm on a tuesday afternoon who doesnt look overly busy), wearing loose/baggy clothing. lets just card those guys right? well it happens to be that most of those guys are black so whats left to do?

on the other hand, there is a serious toll that carding leaves on a community, when young black men who are working hard to achieve a better life get stopped, and carded, and possibly harassed by a police officer. what happens then? how do we control for that?

tough decision but i think the overall results of carding have been proven effective in nyc and other similar size cities that other then trying to win a popularity contest when he came into office mayor tory should strongly consider asking the TPD to revisit.

 

[Messiahson]

bring back carding!

I agree!

 

[shogun89]

Simple fact is any place the liberals gain control of, they slowly turn into a rape and crime infested hellhole, full of conflict and divisiveness. Usually the transition is slow, but in some cases it can be literally overnight, like what they did to Europe.

And if you want to talk about legitimate pedo's Twizz, look no further than your beloved "refugees"

 

[socialstrat]

So heres another statistic for you to ponder, in the us, 89% of violent crimes are committed by african americans. So lets for a second take color out of it.

Do you just make stats up? Annually, between 60-70% of violent crime in the US is committed by whites.

 

[canada-man]

According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

 

[GPIDEAL]

That makes no sense whatsoever. Carding is not a "search." Someone can still carry a gun while being carded and the police wouldn't know unless they did a pat down.
Carding is racial profiling, stopping someone just because they look a certain way and trying to get their personal info from them.
Do you think people who are being carded tell the cops that someone has a gun? Or what's going down? It does not work like that!

Agreed. Unless they have a prior, and there's reasonable grounds to suspect that he may be carrying, cops don't search for guns even when carding, as I understand it.

 

[TESLAMotors]

Simple fact is any place the liberals gain control of, they slowly turn into a rape and crime infested hellhole, full of conflict and divisiveness. Usually the transition is slow, but in some cases it can be literally overnight, like what they did to Europe.

And if you want to talk about legitimate pedo's Twizz, look no further than your beloved "refugees"

All of the above, plus, carding may tell a cop the person's history and then that'll make the person shit.
If you have nothing to hide, fuck off with your whining that's it's profiling. Tell your boys to get their shit together and get jobs, stop causing problems and then the (apparent) "few bad apples" won't ruin it for the rest.

 

[canada-man]

Fine, you're a house negro then.
Why don't you bring your proposals to your ethnic community? Saying these things on an escort board is useless.
Trinidadians, Guyanese, Grenadians, Bajans, Ghanians, Nigerians, Ethiopians etc are not the ones that need to be carded.

being a house negro are actions not opinions.

 

[explorerzip]

All of the above, plus, carding may tell a cop the person's history and then that'll make the person shit.
If you have nothing to hide, fuck off with your whining that's it's profiling. Tell your boys to get their shit together and get jobs, stop causing problems and then the (apparent) "few bad apples" won't ruin it for the rest.

Then let's take it a step further and put everyone black, white, etc into a database since we have nothing to hide. Who's going to be the first person with a good job and no prior record to volunteer for this?

 

[TESLAMotors]

Then let's take it a step further and put everyone black, white, etc into a database since we have nothing to hide. Who's going to be the first person with a good job and no prior record to volunteer for this?

No problem.

Besides, it's slowly getting to that point

 

[canada-man]

Then let's take it a step further and put everyone black, white, etc into a database since we have nothing to hide. Who's going to be the first person with a good job and no prior record to volunteer for this?

we are already in some form of database voter's lists, photo IDS, drivers licence, health cards, Passport, Canada revenue Agency, etc

 

[explorerzip]

we are already in some form of database voter's lists, photo IDS, drivers licence, health cards, Passport, Canada revenue Agency, etc

Not everyone is in a police database, which is what we're talking about here. Whites and other races commit crimes too so let's get them in that database 'just in case.' Let's take an extreme example by mandating that all hobbyists on all boards must submit detailed identification including a blood and semen sample to a police database 'just in case' there's a crime against an SP. How about doing that for everyone that leaves a MPA? And would it be okay if potential employers, banks, credit card agencies have access to that police database?

My suggestion is to try to put yourself on the receiving end of being constantly spoken to by the police when you've just minding your own business and done nothing wrong. Maybe you won't flinch an eye for the first few times, but it will get to you at some point.

 

[JANE WAY]

I was on my way to an incall and walked right into this crime scene. It also happened apparently right outside the chinese cafe I went for dinner. Scary scary.

 

[twizz]

According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

What are the stats for Jamaicans commiting murder in Toronto/Gta and UK cities as opposed to other blacks?

 

[twizz]

while carding is controversial and i cant think that this could have been prevented with carding (fights erupt in chinatown on weekends ALL THE TIME, a mixture of drunk teens/young adults + weapons). So heres another statistic for you to ponder, in the us, 89% of violent crimes are committed by african americans. So lets for a second take color out of it.

lets assume that most crimes are commited by men, ages 18-29, who are unemployed (kid on the corner at 2pm on a tuesday afternoon who doesnt look overly busy), wearing loose/baggy clothing. lets just card those guys right? well it happens to be that most of those guys are black so whats left to do?

on the other hand, there is a serious toll that carding leaves on a community, when young black men who are working hard to achieve a better life get stopped, and carded, and possibly harassed by a police officer. what happens then? how do we control for that?

tough decision but i think the overall results of carding have been proven effective in nyc and other similar size cities that other then trying to win a popularity contest when he came into office mayor tory should strongly consider asking the TPD to revisit.

There are no African Americans in our city, very few of them. In Toronto/GTA crime has been at an all time low in years. Violent crime is not even mostly perpetrated by blacks. However, the shootings tend to be done by Jamaican young men. The news tends to choose the shooting stories because they are arouse emotion. White collar and environmental crimes are the ones society should worry about the most as these will have affects on everyone.

 

[twizz]

The guys who got shot weren't in any gang it seems they pissed off the wrong guy with a gun.

 

[SkyRider]

The guys who got shot weren't in any gang it seems they pissed off the wrong guy with a gun.

What did they say or do that pissed off the guy with the gun?

 

[SkyRider]

White collar and environmental crimes are the ones society should worry about the most as these will have affects on everyone.

People, police and governments are just as concerned about these crimes and yes they do make the news.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned about violent street crime. It is no fun to go out for dim sum and get shot in the face. The 3 other shooting victims were innocent civilians. Actually, it appears all 5 shooting victims are innocent civilians. The shooter should turn himself/herself in to police.

 

[glamphotographer]

What did they say or do that pissed off the guy with the gun?

Who knows probably something stupid like accidentally bumping into each other and giving dirty looks. These Black thugs are quickly ill tempered.

 

[explorerzip]

There are no African Americans in our city, very few of them. In Toronto/GTA crime has been at an all time low in years. Violent crime is not even mostly perpetrated by blacks. However, the shootings tend to be done by Jamaican young men. The news tends to choose the shooting stories because they are arouse emotion. White collar and environmental crimes are the ones society should worry about the most as these will have affects on everyone.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say because Toronto either has no African Canadians or very few of them. What you said early are contradictory statements. At any rate, there are more than 200,000 (8.5%) Black people living in Toronto according to the last census in 2011, which is neither 0 or very few.