My ilk Eddie?...You mean the deplorables?
You think there's a moral hierarchy and you are on the top right?
As your comrade on here Knuckle Ball says just ''own it"'......
After Watching Biden Deny Reade’s Claims, 1 in 4 Democrats Want a Different Nominee
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You think there's a moral hierarchy and you are on the top right?
As your comrade on here Knuckle Ball says just ''own it"'......
Trying to be the moderator of threads are you?? Instead, bring some real substance to the table!!
If you have ADHD and can't follow a designated topic then just admit it.
There's no shame in that. Just as your Svengali Knuckle Ball would say ''own it''
Since when did the numerous right wingers that you so passionately support not stray from the topic. Stop being hypocritical in this respect!! You know where to stick that ADHD nonsense when you are a hypocrite.
Again, when you guys lose the argument in the thread then of course you come up with this deflection nonsense, especially as this thread was about the polls. So that must have ruffled your feathers. LOL!!
Does this 9 point lead mean absolutely nothing to you? When even his own base are beginning to see and feel the pinch in his handling or more likely mishandling of this Covid-19, then do not be too certain that he could replicate those votes in the 2020 elections. What you failed to mention is that the Republicans got 62 million in 2004 vs The Democrats at 59 million. Obama was an exceptionally desirable candidate that drew the Americans to the polls in large droves. Clinton was too complacent. I expect Biden to be far more enthusiastic than Clinton!!
Now lets see....I stay on topic all the time and you never do.
Ergo you lose this argument.....Get a prescription for adderall it should help you and it might help you knock off that extra weight you are holding to boot. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for a TERB brother in need.
I'm out for the night but as I know you always have to have the last word. Have at it.......
This is the best you have when you have no more substance in your arguments. Why do you not get Mama to put you to bed in her basement and sing to you, "Soft Kitty, Warm Kitty", so that you can get those ruffled feathers of yours to calm down??
That’s registered voters not likely voters, that’s a national poll not swing states, and that’s before Trump makes a piñata out of Biden.
Stay confident, it worked in 2016.
These are factual numbers clearing showing a decline in people choosing to vote for the Dems. Both for Obama and Clinton.
And a marked increase in voters going third party.
Polls are tiny snapshots of the moment.
Can you explain the decline in votes for the Dems? And the almost three fold increase in independent voters going third party?
I can see a good one.
And judging from the same polls you like to site the voters are certainly not excited about Biden. Especially young ones.
Al liars hoping for a payday that never materialized. LolThis guy:
Yet these Trumptards had no problem defending him then. But now with just 1 accusation against Biden, and of course the sky opens up drops down to the earth with their allegations of guilt!!
I know you do. But that is a very short trend line. The last time voters moved enough to third party to have the winner of the popular vote lose the electoral, the next election saw a massive move away from third party.
Your trend line falls apart the moment you put George W Bush back in. You have picked the DEM highest point - 2008 - which almost everyone agrees wasn't just a surge of support for Obama but a massive rejection of Bush and the GOP after their colossal fuck up and decided that the reversion back down there is due to the loss of progressives, and not the loss of people who normally would have voted GOP going back home.
The theory that "progressives" are moving third party isn't outrageous, but it also competes with the theory that "white men" (especially non-college educated) are moving to the party of white identity and that there is just a general return to the mean of votes after the "fuck the GOP" moment of 2008.
I don't know the answer. But so far the "it is progressives fleeing" doesn't look very strong. Sanders's support went down. His theory that the non voters would be mobilized never happened. The 2018 midterms saw huge gains with suburban moderates and not a lot of progressive candidates win. Third party voting in the midterms wasn't significant.
There is also the question of the Libertarian vote vastly outperforming the Green. That implies that the third party/disaffected vote isn't particularly progressive but is more just generalized "anti-establishment" or simply right wing but rejecting culture war religious issues or outright white supremacy.
We will see. Maybe you will be right and there will be an even stronger shift to third parties this year. I remain skeptical.
Alot depends on who is running. And the mood of the nation. In 1992 there was big economic uncertainty, an unpopular incumbent, and a willingness to look elsewhere. The other major factor doesn't exist is a candidate with resources like Perot had.
But I think there are enough disaffected voters who are pissed at the two party system and especially the Dems to hurt them again.
It's funny how the Dems are screaming about Justin Amash when they literally share zero policy platform. But solely fell entitled to every vote not for Trump.
Bernie's already got a lot of fundraising money in the bank. He should rent a pair of balls and declare himself as a third party candidate already.
I wish he would as well. Unfortunately his forty year history of fighting for the right policy didn't translate into the killer instinct needed to go all the way. If he did it would solidify the progressive movement down ballot as well and break the two party system hold in Congress in the long run.
Biden, like Clinton, is imo a vote depressor. Sanders is too engaged in the two party system, despite his independent status, to see it. He only sees the short term now.
Trump's base is 42%.
It hasn't moved in the three years he's been in power.
His response to the coronavirus has been a disaster and this fall will be a massive clusterfuck of more waves of the virus combined with an economy in the shitters.
The dems could run Clinton again and beat him, even with all the electoral fuckery and electoral college shit they can manage.
Unless Trump comes up with a miracle bleach cure for the virus his in massive trouble.
Overconfidence is what caused the Trump win last time. Right now it's still 50/50 imo.
Bernie believes Trump is “the most dangerous president in modern American history” and is willing to work with the Dems to try to defeat him.
Moreover, having just run for the Dem nomination and lost, it would be a pretty sleazy move for Bernie to turn around and run as a 3rd party candidate. If he was going to do that then he should have declared himself an independent 3rd party candidate from the beginning. I’ll give Bernie credit for having the integrity not to do that.
I think he should have as well. But considering how the Dem leadership has treated him in running these last two times they certainly haven't earned the right imo to cry about it.
No one is entitled to votes, and In a democracy every single person has the right to run for office.
