A "Sovereign Citizen" gets owned by an Alberta Judge

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TLDR: The judge debunked all his claims, presented a very detailed overview of the ways in which the whole movement is a scam, threw the guys filings in the trash, and then told him that in the future he would actually accept any further "freeman on the land" filings he wants to file with the court--but only as evidence to be used against him on a vexatious litigation charge, and for the purpose of calculating the legal costs that he would be made to pay.
 

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Interesting will have to read it when I have the chance. These groups are also a problem in the U.S. Courts, generally in connection with tax litigation.
 

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How the hell can you even be a 'Sovereign Citizen' in Canada? That's a bit of American constitutional and historical absolute nuttery. Is there some even more half baked low rent version of this 'ideology' for Canada? LOL. I suppose I should read the article, but somebody feel free to fill me in.
 

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On where this stuff comes from:

Mediaeval alchemy is a helpful analogue. Alchemists sold their services based on the
theatre of their activities, rather than demonstrated results, or any analytical or systematic
methodology. OPCA gurus are modern legal alchemists. They promise gold, but their methods
are principally intended to impress the gullible, or those who wish to use this drivel to abuse the
court system. Any lack of legal success by the OPCA litigant is, of course, portrayed as a
consequence of the customer’s failure to properly understand and apply the guru’s special
knowledge.

[79] Caselaw that relates to Gurus, reviewed below, explains how gurus present these ideas in
seminars, books, websites, and instructional DVDs and other recordings. They provide
pre-prepared documents, which sometimes are government forms, and instruct how to fill in the
necessary information that then produces the desired effects. Gurus write scripts to follow in
court. Some will attempt to act as your representative, and argue your case.

[80] When gurus do appear in court their schemes uniformly fail, which is why most leave
court appearances to their customers. That explains why it is not unusual to find that an OPCA
litigant cannot even explain their own materials. They did not write them. They do not (fully)
understand them. OPCA litigants appear, engage in a court drama that is more akin to a magic
spell ritual than an actual legal proceeding, and wait to see if the court is entranced and
compliant. If not, the litigant returns home to scrutinize at what point the wrong incantation was
uttered, an incorrectly prepared artifact waved or submitted.
 

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How the hell can you even be a 'Sovereign Citizen' in Canada? That's a bit of American constitutional and historical absolute nuttery. Is there some even more half baked low rent version of this 'ideology' for Canada? LOL. I suppose I should read the article, but somebody feel free to fill me in.
Here's a much less detailed article ( I love the last line :) )

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Judge+refutes+idiotic+claims/7312309/story.html
Alberta's courts should take steps to combat growing abuse of the legal system by "vexatious litigants" who reject state and court authority, a top Court of Queen's Bench justice says.

In a decision issued in response to a June 8, 2012, divorce case involving a self-declared "freeman on the land," Court of Queen's Bench Associate Chief Justice John Rooke analyzes what he calls "organized pseudolegal commercial argument," or OPCA, litigants. His 185-page analysis of their arguments and legal implausibility was posted on the Alberta Justice court website on T hursday .

OPCA litigants typically follow "gurus" who promote and sell techniques to unlock secret accounts and evade traffic tickets, support payments or taxes by undermining governments, corporations and individuals, Rooke says. Although many rely on spurious name variants and titles, the individuals often identify themselves as Detaxers, Freemen, Sovereign Citizens, Moorish Law, or part of the Edmonton-based Church of the Ecumenical Redemption International.

Since their emergence in Canada in the 1990s, no court has ever accepted an OPCA concept or approach, Rooke notes. Nevertheless, OPCA arguments have been tried at all levels of court proceedings, by poor and wealthy individuals of various ages, religions and education levels.

Even celebrities have tried and failed, Rooke notes, most famously actor Wesley Snipes, currently imprisoned in the United States for tax evasion.

Rooke's decision centres around Dennis Larry Meads, whom the judge called an "ideal type specimen," currently in divorce proceedings initiated in early 2011. Since then, Meads has filed numerous "unusual documents," several with red thumbprints and signed by ": : : dennis-larry: : of the meads-family: : : ." In one such document, Meads declared himself as "postmaster general" and attempts to assign liability to a Court of Queen's Bench clerk.

The lawyer for Meads' spouse told Rooke that although he generally paid court-ordered spousal support, Meads held up the divorce with unorthodox documents and a refusal to disclose his financial records.

In Edmonton court on June 8, 2012, Meads declared he was "a child of the almighty God Jehovah, and not a child of the state," present as a "flesh and blood man" but not a "corporate identity." His ex-wife had already taken "the bulk of his silver bullion" and $250,000 from a joint bank account, Mead argued, and all payments should come instead from vast amounts of money owed him for his corporate identity, bonded and registered in the Bank of Canada at his birth.

"I do not want to be enticed into slavery, sir," Meads told Rooke. "She contacts me, her other lawyer contacted me, they are enticing me into contract. And I do not want to go there. I just want to be left alone. Give me a divorce."

When Rooke explained property division, spousal support and obligations, Meads asked about the Royal Coat of Arms of Canada on the walls behind the judge, which includes the Latin expression, "From sea to sea."

"This is an admiral court; your jurisdiction is on water, it's not on land," Meads told Rooke. "I am a freeman on the land."

Rooke explained contempt of court laws and Meads' options, including jail for non-compliance. Meads accused Rooke of enticing him into slavery, saying he was free from the "mumbo jumbo that is law." After rejecting the court's authority, he got up and left. Later that month, he served the judge with several documents assigning obligations to Rooke, along with a dozen other documents, one of which asserts Meads' name requires a per-use fee of $100 million.

Rooke dismisses Meads' arguments as "bluntly idiotic" nonsense, rejecting his unilateral assignments of liability and attempts to separate himself, his assets and liabilities into two legal aspects. "Mr. Meads is Mr. Meads in all his physical or imaginary aspects," Rooke writes.

Contrary to his assertions, Rooke says Meads isn't owed the "modest award" of $100 billion relating to his birth documents. And while Rooke could "potentially address admiralty law matters," it is not the Court of Queen's Bench sole jurisdiction; litigation of that kind is "not exactly a common occurrence" in landlocked Alberta. Many OPCA litigants attempt to reject a court's authority, a strategy Rooke says is virtually guaranteed to fail since provincial superior court powers are broad and adaptive.

An examination of the documents filed by Meads suggest they come from a "pre-fab" kit likely bought from an American "guru," the judge says.

Rooke's analysis is intended to provide a framework for lawyers and judges who encounter OPCA tactics. But he also hopes to warn possible litigants against people peddling "Byzantine schemes which more closely resemble the plot of a dark fantasy novel than anything else." The "gurus" aren't worth billions and their arguments don't work in court, Rooke writes. Near the end of the document, Rooke addresses gurus directly.

"You cannot identify one instance where a court has rolled over and behaved as told. Not one. Your spells, when cast, fail."
 

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Not sure why a Judge does not find that these people are 'obstructing justice'...... Or at least in Contempt of court...and throw their sorry asses in jail!
 

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An examination of the documents filed by Meads suggest they come from a "pre-fab" kit likely bought from an American "guru," the judge says.
Ahhhhh... So it's double plus stupid. Gotcha.
 

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Surprised the judge took the time and trouble to write such a long and detailed judgment re such an immense pack of nonsense. I would just have jugged the contumacious litigant for 90 days and moved on to the next case. Life's too short.
 

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Actually there is a way to declare yourself a freeman. The problem is the one's that know how are all in jail. We're all slaves to these pricks !

BS
That's why we jailed them.
 

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From what I seen of the idea, it isn't wrong. However it helps to have an Army back you up if you go that route. The US army for example. Going to court over such claims is just deluded. However I have not read the article.


If I ever did go that route, I would start collecting cats and become their overlord. Sure they can't fight very well and they always want to can haz cheezeburger but they are so damn cute.
 

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From what I seen of the idea, it isn't wrong.
There's many ideas wrapped together in there. The nuttiest to me is that the government issues a bond against your birth cerificate when you are born, and holds the money in a secret account that you can access to pay others if you use the right combination of legal mumbo jumbo.

People can become freemen, just go conquer your own island and defend it. Or go live on the island of floating trash in the pacific, that would be something. Just don't expect others to trade with you unless you pay your debts.
 

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Want to be a "Freeman on the Land?" Don't use currency. Don't drive. Don't use medicare. Don't insure your possessions. Don't own land and certainly don't rent. There is a kernel of truth to it, mainly related to how common law was bootstrapped, but your corporate identity is a valuable asset, and if you want to live outside the system, don't sponge off of those who choose to.
 

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Surprised the judge took the time and trouble to write such a long and detailed judgment re such an immense pack of nonsense. I would just have jugged the contumacious litigant for 90 days and moved on to the next case. Life's too short.
Just finished wading through it and certainly don't claim to be anything approaching an expert in it but the impression I got was that there were at least a couple of reasons the judge went to all the trouble. One, he's drawn all heck of a lot of information and cases involving OPCA nonsense. And two, in this specific case had lawyers refused to notarize the OPCA documents (as they're supposed to in AB since 2009 apparently) and/or steps had been taken earlier to legally dispute his foisted contract on the court official matters may not have had to come to the point where she had to approach his court for help.

Sadly it appears also that in his determination to follow OPCA 'guru' advice he is actually hurting himself as the judge mentioned a couple of times that there may be things he can provide or ask his ex to provide that will reduce his financial obligations as suggested by his ex.
 

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There's many ideas wrapped together in there. The nuttiest to me is that the government issues a bond against your birth cerificate when you are born, and holds the money in a secret account that you can access to pay others if you use the right combination of legal mumbo jumbo.

People can become freemen, just go conquer your own island and defend it. Or go live on the island of floating trash in the pacific, that would be something. Just don't expect others to trade with you unless you pay your debts.
The second paragraph pretty much sums up my views on it. Like every other Sovereign power, if there is a difference of opinion and you can't smash some skulls, any claims you make are about as useless as calling yourself a tractor and expecting people to agree with you.
 
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