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White people, do you personaly feel white privelege guilt? Are you to blame?

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The ask is that we are aware of this. It makes non-whites lives more difficult overall.
White privilege is a very real thing that most whites benefit from. That has been established and agreed upon to death, where the line gets blurred is, under what circumstances is that true? That list is shorter to the left and longer to the right, everyone has their own version of what that looks like, just like "GFE"

The ask is that we are aware of this. When you say "we" I assume you are white, so to that I would say most are aware, It makes non-whites lives more difficult overall. Agreed, in some circumstances, not all.

Imagine waking up one day as a famous whatever, your walls adorned with trophies only to be told it was all obtained by you as a result of an unseen unspoken unfair advantage you had ( White Privilege ) because of your race, and nothing, (the keyword here lefties, ) you have ever achieved, are achieving or will achieve, is, was, or will be, as a result of your own hard work and merit. I, as a white person, will not swallow this pill.

I don't want a world where there are circumstances that exist where I can't take pride in what I have accomplished, I don't want any handouts, I don't need any.
 
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No. The whole concept is bunk being used to weaponize one population against another. If the Nazis were still around they’d justify their actions on the basis of ‘Jewish Privelege’. So, to those of you buying into this concept, congratulations, you are feeding the fires of the next Holocaust.
 

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Ideology especially delivered via tribalism is a powerful weapon to social engineer, divide, segregate and ultimately collapse.

One day we will all be considered humans first with consciousness and value and preserve these two with the utmost importance and fight against anyone and anything that threatens this.

Although seems like we need to almost destroy ourselves, divide and segregate to realize what is the way.

Maybe this is why we have societal collapses and great filter to show us the way.


While religion, ideology, politics and culture can be presented as unique things that give us identity, a place tribe to belong to and give us a sense of meaning they are also enablers to division, segregation, and untimely societal collapse and great filter.

We are the unforgiven...

 

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That isn't at all what white privilege is or means. It doesn't mean you get an automatic leg up, that your accomplishments aren't your own. It means you have more opportunity to make those accomplishments, it means you don't have security following you around in every single store you enter, it means you aren't sweating balls when being pulled over JUST because of the colour of your skin, etc, etc.

White privilege is a very real thing that most whites benefit from. That has been established and agreed upon to death, where the line gets blurred is, under what circumstances is that true? That list is shorter to the left and longer to the right, everyone has their own version of what that looks like, just like "GFE"

The ask is that we are aware of this. When you say "we" I assume you are white, so to that I would say most are aware, It makes non-whites lives more difficult overall. Agreed, in some circumstances, not all.

Imagine waking up one day as a famous whatever, your walls adorned with trophies only to be told it was all obtained by you as a result of an unseen unspoken unfair advantage you had ( White Privilege ) because of your race, and nothing, (the keyword here lefties, ) you have ever achieved, are achieving or will achieve, is, was, or will be, as a result of your own hard work and merit. I, as a white person, will not swallow this pill.

I don't want a world where there are circumstances that exist where I can't take pride in what I have accomplished, I don't want any handouts, I don't need any.
 

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That isn't at all what white privilege is or means. It doesn't mean you get an automatic leg up, that your accomplishments aren't your own. It means you have more opportunity to make those accomplishments, it means you don't have security following you around in every single store you enter, it means you aren't sweating balls when being pulled over JUST because of the colour of your skin, etc, etc.
If we accept your definition, then the concept of white privilege is even more ridiculous. One only need look at the plethora of programs, scholarships and opportunities afforded non-white communities in modern society to see that your definition is proven incorrect by empirical observation.
 
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There are programs that stop cops from pulling over/harassing/assaulting PoC? Hrrmm. I don't think so.

If we accept your definition, then the concept of white privilege is even more ridiculous. One only need look at the plethora of programs, scholarships and opportunities afforded non-white communities in modern society to see that your definition is proven incorrect by empirical observation.
 

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That isn't at all what white privilege is or means. It doesn't mean you get an automatic leg up, that your accomplishments aren't your own. It means you have more opportunity to make those accomplishments, it means you don't have security following you around in every single store you enter, it means you aren't sweating balls when being pulled over JUST because of the colour of your skin, etc, etc.
Hey Jazmina, what's new pussycat?

That isn't at all what white privilege is or means.

Why not just state your opinion? Couldn't there be sensibilities and truth to both our views and opinions?

Like I said LEFT------------------------------GFE-------------------------------RIGHT

You don't have to be right, to be right, and, I don't have to be left, to be wrong.

Make it whatever you want, I'm not arguing with you I'm just the type of guy that has his own opinion, until I hear something better I am happy with that thanks.

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There are programs that stop cops from pulling over/harassing/assaulting PoC? Hrrmm. I don't think so.
You obviously don’t work in law enforcement and haven’t been paying attention to what’s going on.

Also curious, how does white privilege explain why there are so many rich asians and Indians in North America?
 

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And you have obviously never had a conversation with a PoC.

You obviously don’t work in law enforcement and haven’t been paying attention to what’s going on.

Also curious, how does white privilege explain why there are so many rich asians and Indians in North America?
 

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Love bunny, truth and opinions are two different things!

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Hey Jazmina, what's new pussycat?

That isn't at all what white privilege is or means.

Why not just state your opinion? Couldn't there be sensibilities and truth to both our views and opinions?

Like I said LEFT------------------------------GFE-------------------------------RIGHT

You don't have to be right, to be right, and, I don't have to be left, to be wrong.

Make it whatever you want, I'm not arguing with you I'm just the type of guy that has his own opinion, until I hear something better I am happy with that thanks.

Meow

 

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And you have obviously never had a conversation with a PoC.
I have.

You still haven’t answered The question about why there are disproportionate number of asians and Indians in higher education and high paying jobs. I suspect that you can’t because accounting for this fact would require that you acknowledge the whole white privilege/white supremacy narrative is a line of third rate bullshit used to motivate the gullible into weakening our society so that external powers can advance their own agenda.
 

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I have.

You still haven’t answered The question about why there are disproportionate number of asians and Indians in higher education and high paying jobs. I suspect that you can’t because accounting for this fact would require that you acknowledge the whole white privilege/white supremacy narrative is a line of third rate bullshit used to motivate the gullible into weakening our society so that external powers can advance their own agenda.
 

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I have.

You still haven’t answered The question about why there are disproportionate number of asians and Indians in higher education and high paying jobs. I suspect that you can’t because accounting for this fact would require that you acknowledge the whole white privilege/white supremacy narrative is a line of third rate bullshit used to motivate the gullible into weakening our society so that external powers can advance their own agenda.
Why do you guys even bother with them. They are too far programmed and indoctrinated by the MSM and social media to see what’s actually happening. They think they are actually helping POC and fighting for equality and social justice when they are enabling the things they speak out against, regressing progress and making it harder for POC in underprivileged situation to actually get out of that situation to empower them tap into their potential vs now they are making them more underprivileged and victimizing them and indoctrinating a victim mentality and being. The whole world see this but they will never see it. Let them learn the hard way through time what propagating this divisive toxic ideology will do to their kids and their progress as a society.
 

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Anyone who has experienced life and death situation, war, ethic cleansing sees what’s happening and these people keep enabling it.

see Yenomi Park who escaped North Korea and went to university in the states says about this.


“Every problem, they explained us, is because of white men.” Some of the discussions of white privilege reminded her of the caste system in her native country, where people were categorized based on their ancestors, she said.





“North Korean defector Yeonmi Park on Monday opened up on the strong 'anti-Western sentiment' in US Universities, expressing her shock over how American higher education institutions were teaching Americans to hate their own people through an extreme-Left slant in their methods of teaching. The 27-year-old who graduated from Columbia University of the Ivy League said that her education had left her 'disturbed' over the 'bleak future of the United States.'”

These people don’t fcking see what they are doing and being led to believe.

Just sit back and let them enable what’s coming to them and their society once these indoctrinated kids start growing up and becoming the next leaders of their society.

If you care about our future and society the only way is private schooling and home education and teach them to love and value everyone equally and actually do direct action to help people less privileges like donating books tutoring habitat for humanity big brothers etc vs this segregation and racist bullshit behind shoved down kids throats.
 
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By "Asians" and "Indians" what are you talking about exactly? How China has money? India sure as fuck doesn't. And that has nothing to do with Canadian systemics, do you think they don't experience hate crime as much as other PoC just because they have money, when in Canada? I assure you, they do. Do you think black people are the only ones who get called names, or get assaulted for their skin colour?


Are you living under a rock?

I have.

You still haven’t answered The question about why there are disproportionate number of asians and Indians in higher education and high paying jobs. I suspect that you can’t because accounting for this fact would require that you acknowledge the whole white privilege/white supremacy narrative is a line of third rate bullshit used to motivate the gullible into weakening our society so that external powers can advance their own agenda.
 

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Hmm, thought you knew me better than that but that's cool.

Why do you guys even bother with them. They are too far programmed and indoctrinated by the MSM and social media to see what’s actually happening. They think they are actually helping POC and fighting for equality and social justice when they are enabling the things they speak out against, regressing progress and making it harder for POC in underprivileged situation to actually get out of that situation to empower them tap into their potential vs now they are making them more underprivileged and victimizing them and indoctrinating a victim mentality and being. The whole world see this but they will never see it. Let them learn the hard way through time what propagating this divisive toxic ideology will do to their kids and their progress as a society.
 

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Hmm, thought you knew me better than that but that's cool.
I believe that you believe you are doing the right thing.

However I believe this is bigger then you or I or anyone in here.

They are systematically undermining our societies from within causing people to turn on each other, and further divide and further segregation and label people based on their skin colour.

I knew you would see me different when I said this, however I am directly seeing what kind of effect this has on my kids who are multi racial and how they feel about their father their white ancestry and all that.

I had nothing to do what is happening here nor did my ancestors. We escaped war to get here ffs and now my kids have to be ashamed of their white part and try to delete everything. Now I am paying the price for what. When I came here I struggled working cleaning jobs, standing outside with holes in my shoes and thin pants waiting for school to start in deep windchill because we could only get hand me down clothes. I had no fucking clothes other then what we came here with. I had no privilege. I couldn’t speak English, was bullied in school, needed to help parents with cleaning jobs, we slept in one room for years until we can save up. But now I am labeled as privileged and my kids are tough to be ashamed of their dad and to delete their white part because this is what the schools teach them now, what the media shows, and what people on here support.

This is not right its not heathy and it’s toxic IMO. I am done fighting it because there is no hope. They think this is the right way to segregate and shame people that fit their narrative.

I always see you in high regard but with this I feel like I need to make a general statement because I don’t believe what is happening here is healthy. I knew the risk and many times didn’t say anything because of how you would post. But like I said it is beyond me or you or anyone on here.

I attended brainwashing camps as a kid for the pioners and the army that supported communism. I always resisted indoctrination and brainwashing techniques from when I was little where I would get in big trouble with the school and authorities. I would get hit and beat many times because of this.

I am doing the same now and telling everyone what I feel and believe that this is not healthy what is happening despite being disguised as a good thing. This is meant to weaken us and destroy us. I can’t stay silent always even though I know it is pointless and nothing will change. My father would run from the communists for months that threatened to kill him. Many that tried to resist would just disappear. Do you think I can just read these threads and not give a pice of my opinion and based on my direct experience and what I see is happening here.

What about Yenomi Park who almost died many times and is telling us what is happening what she witnessed and compared to what she went through in North Korea. She was exposed to indoctrination hard core and went through treacherous conditions and is constantly risking her life to speak the truth but nobody believes here. Do you know how many threats she gets daily on her life now.

Again I say this is bigger then you and I. I feel like I need to speak out and say how I see it based on my experience and intuition.

They have hijacked people’s minds through social media and other tools. They have the smartest scientist and experts who understand psychology and human behaviour and social engineering working on these things. Look at how many legit stories these big media and social media keep censoring. Look at things like tiktok and how much they are brainwashing the kids based on what the ones who control this medium want them to see. They know about our habits, personal lives, our interests, hobbies everything. It’s so easy for them to brainwash people and turn them into their freedom fighters.

I know this is pointless and nothing will change but I feel like I need to say something and share my POV.
 
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I am glad you are sharing your experience. As I was sharing mine. My opinions on this do not come from MSM or social media, they come from talking, and more importantly, LISTENING to PoC and their experiences. And there is only as much divisiveness as we allow. My PoC friends are still friends, largely in part because I DO make an effort to listen and learn.

Feeling shame for what has happened in the past, and what continues to happen, doesn't mean "cancelling" white people, and I am really sorry if you feel your kids see you differently after learning the truth. That sucks and it isn't how it should be. But it is how it is, not because of MSM but because of racism itself. Every single PoC I know has trust issues with white people. Every one of them. Because of how white people have treated them. Every single one of them. That isn't made up, it isn't even propaganda, it is the abuses and racism they face every single day of their life, when they walk out their front door.

None of this erases abuses and fucked up shit that happens in other parts of the World. It doesn't minimize in any way. Multiple issues can exist at the same time. And do. And understanding that one may work differently from another is perfectly normal, and expected. Because they are different issues happening in different parts of the World, around different World views.

But again, this conversation about white privilege is surrounding Canada (or Western World), in our current climate and World view.

As for division, with truth it should happen LESS. Not more. If there is division, that means white people are still resisting accepting the truth, they are responding from a place of defensiveness instead of love.

As I see it. Nothing is bigger than you and I, it literally starts with us. One small step and all that jazz...

I believe that you believe you are doing the right thing.

However I believe this is bigger then you or I or anyone in here.

They are systematically undermining our societies from within causing people to turn on each other, and further divide and further segregation and label people based on their skin colour.

I knew you would see me different when I said this, however I am directly seeing what kind of effect this has on my kids who are multi racial and how they feel about their father their white ancestry and all that.

I had nothing to do what is happening here nor did my ancestors. We escaped war to get here ffs and now my kids have to be ashamed of their white part and try to delete everything. Now I am paying the price for what. When I came here I struggled working cleaning jobs, standing outside with holes in my shoes and thin pants waiting for school to start in deep windchill because we could only get hand me down clothes. I had no fucking clothes other then what we came here with. I had no privilege. I couldn’t speak English, was bullied in school, needed to help parents with cleaning jobs, we slept in one room for years until we can save up. But now I am labeled as privileged and my kids are tough to be ashamed of their dad and to delete their white part because this is what the schools teach them now, what the media shows, and what people on here support.

This is not right its not heathy and it’s toxic IMO. I am done fighting it because there is no hope. They think this is the right way to segregate and shame people that fit their narrative.

I always see you in high regard but with this I feel like I need to make a general statement because I don’t believe what is happening here is healthy. I knew the risk and many times didn’t say anything because of how you would post. But like I said it is beyond me or you or anyone on here.

I attended brainwashing camps as a kid for the pioners and the army that supported communism. I always resisted indoctrination and brainwashing techniques from when I was little where I would get in big trouble with the school and authorities. I would get hit and beat many times because of this.

I am doing the same now and telling everyone what I feel and believe that this is not healthy what is happening despite being disguised as a good thing. This is meant to weaken us and destroy us. I can’t stay silent always even though I know it is pointless and nothing will change. My father would run from the communists for months that threatened to kill him. Many that tried to resist would just disappear. Do you think I can just read these threads and not give a pice of my opinion and based on my direct experience and what I see is happening here.

What about Yenomi Park who almost died many times and is telling us what is happening what she witnessed and compared to what she went through in North Korea. She was exposed to indoctrination hard core and went through treacherous conditions and is constantly risking her life to speak the truth but nobody believes here. Do you know how many threats she gets daily on her life now.

Again I say this is bigger then you and I. I feel like I need to speak out and say how I see it based on my experience and intuition.

They have hijacked people’s minds through social media and other tools. They have the smartest scientist and experts who understand psychology and human behaviour and social engineering working on these things. Look at how many legit stories these big media and social media keep censoring. Look at things like tiktok and how much they are brainwashing the kids based on what the ones who control this medium want them to see. They know about our habits, personal lives, our interests, hobbies everything. It’s so easy for them to brainwash people and turn them into their freedom fighters.

I know this is pointless and nothing will change but I feel like I need to say something and share my POV.
 
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