I agree with your statement, but i still blame China for knowing about it and doing shit about it at the beginning. If they acted sooner instead of trying cover it up i dont think the world would be where it is right now.
Wuhan Lab just busted, 2 new videos. Bat lady and Daszak lied.
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This is undeniably true. If China hadn't been obsessed with not admitting there was a problem, things would have gone better.
Not particularly, no. Labs are not the most common source of virus outbreaks. Is there a possibility it had something to do with it? Yes. But it being there doesn't make it a "good chance" it came from the lab.
That is a satisfying intuitive narrative, but that susceptibility to narrative makes people overstate the likelihood.
No it isn't. It was first detected in Wuhan. That isn't the same thing. There are still stray reports of possible COVID-19 infections predating the Wuhan outbreak. It is most likely that the first significant outbreak was in Wuhan and still quite likely that the first human infection was there, but neither is a fact. (We can't even confidently say it is the first we know of because some of those earlier cases haven't been fully investigated yet. Some have and have been ruled out but not all.)
It couldn't possibly start there because, GASP!, that would make Trump correct and all the "experts " including Twitterverse, wrong. The consensus can never be exposed as wrong, hence all the spin and pretzel baking.
I haven't seen a person yet who died from Covid, so until I do this outbreak really isn't a fact.
LJ
Occam's razor suggests it is a natural outbreak.
You need to stop being in love with your narratives above all, it's what screws up your political thinking as well.
I have two thoughts on this: One, they thought they could cover it up and there would be no global spread. Not because of a lab leak (though that is possible), but because of it damaging China's reputation. They lose their shit if you make fun of Jinping...
The other, they didn't recognize how dangerous and easy-to-spread the disease was. Remember, it is new. Yes, it is similar to other corona viruses, but the didn't see it as being a serious threat. And by the time they did, it was too late. It had spread to Europe and other places.
Either way, their mismanagement of this is why 26K Canadians are dead and we've endured these lockdowns and what not for nearly a year and a half.
I think the first more than the second, but a bit of both.
They probably underestimated it, but the compulsive need to cover it up because they should never look bad was the main driver.
Interesting theory, but obviously she doesn't have expertise and insight of others on this board.
I've been saying for months that COVID 19 was created in a lab in Wuhan China. I have no doubt of this whatsoever.
My only question is, was it released by accident, or on purpose?
That what they do in these labs. Create and mutate viruses. To study them, research for vaccines. And yes biological weapon research.
Do I think I was released on purpose? Not at this point. Accidental via employees infected?
YUP.
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What difference would that have made in the US. after the entire world new how dangerous it was and how quickly it was spreading the now former cry-baby in chief was telling the US that it would magically disappear. Regardless of where it began the now former epidemiologist in chief is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.
I was asking jamestkirk in this case.
You've been fairly consistent that you think it is an accidental escape of a virus that was made more lethal/infectious through gain of function research of some kind.
(Presumably to test a vaccine?)
There would have been value in earlier cooperative response. That said, most of the failure of response from other countries wasn't dependent on China.
