Battle of the Classic Rock albums Day 7: KISS vs RUSH. Who had the better debut?

[JeanGary Diablo]

OK, @Sonic Temple , I think we have each other's backs here. I'm saying Rush all the way.

Granted, I'm not the biggest KISS fan, but their debut is probably my favourite, so I think that evens things out a bit.

I thought this would be a good pairing since the two albums were released fairly close together in 1974 and the two bands came of age in the '70s together.

 

[countd]

Kiss had the better debut, but I'd say Rush is a more solid band.

 

[Sonic Temple]

Ok - gonna really try to keep an open mind on this one - I really am - as I am a big Kiss fan as well, still remember walking into Sam's and buying my first Kiss record "Lick It Up' at Eglinton Mall back in the day.

Finding My Way vs Strutter
Need Some Love vs Nothing to Lose
Take A Friend vs Firehouse
Here Again vs Cold Gin
What You're Doing vs Let Me Know
In The Mood vs Kissin' Time
Before and After vs Deuce
Working Man vs Love Theme from Kiss

Winner Rush
6 - 2

Rush: Rush (Debut Album) - Album Lyrics and Liner Notes

Cygnus-X1.Net: A Tribute to Rush - Neil Peart, Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, John Rutsey

www.cygnus-x1.net

Geddy Lee - Lead Vocals & Bass
Alex Lifeson - Guitars & Vocals
John Rutsey - Drums & Vocals

All songs composed by Lee & Lifeson except 'In The Mood' composed by Lee · Recorded at Toronto Sound Studios · Recorded at Eastern Sound · Remixed at Toronto Sound · Remix Engineer - Terry Brown · Mastered at Masterdisk · (Remastered at Gateway Mastering Studios, Portland, Maine) · Produced by RUSH · Executive Production - SRO · Photographs by BIC Photography · All arrangements by RUSH · Album cover design by Paul Weldon · For best results play at maximum volume · Mastering Consultant Jim Shelton · Mastering: Gilbert Kong · (Remastering: Bob Ludwig and Brian Lee)· Executive Producer-Robin McBride

Road Crew - Ian Grandy & Liam Birt · Special thanks to-Denny Rosencrantz / Cliff Burnstein / Charlie Fach

Of course not to forget all those who have made this possible · Jeff Franklin · Ira Blacker · Sol Saffian · Greg McCutcheon · Wally Meyrowitz · Marsha Weiss · Joe McHugh · Lezlee Monchak · Bob Roper · Peter Taylor · Glenn McLaren · Thanks to Mike & Jules Belkin for their early belief.

Alternate Moon Records liner notes "Thanks"
Special thanks to: Abbey Road Pub and Staff, Doc Cooper, Mr. & Mrs. G. Grandy, Cousin Glenn McLaren, Hal Greenson, Kalua Music, Drew Metcalf, Music Shoppe International, Sheila Posner, R.P.M., Peter Taylor, Paul Weldon

Moon Records is a subsidiary of SRO Productions Ltd.
With Special Thanks to Donna Halper of WMMS in Cleveland for getting the ball rolling

A Moon Production Inc/Personal Direction: Ray Daniels & Vic Wilson of S.R.O. Productions, Toronto, Canada.

© 1974 Mercury Records © 1974 Anthem Entertainment

 

[jeff2]

I would go with Rush. Can't remember much or maybe not heard much of the first Kiss album. But I had their Destroyer album and saw them in 78 or 79 at Maple Leaf Gardens. Lots of fireworks. By the way, I read those chicks with the banner on Kiss Alive are not chicks. They are dudes.

Back Covers: KISS-Alive

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[JeanGary Diablo]

Ok - gonna really try to keep an open mind on this one - I really am - as I am a big Kiss fan as well, still remember walking into Sam's and buying my first Kiss record "Lick It Up' at Eglinton Mall back in the day.

Finding My Way vs Strutter
Need Some Love vs Nothing to Lose
Take A Friend vs Firehouse
Here Again vs Cold Gin
What You're Doing vs Let Me Know
In The Mood vs Kissin' Time
Before and After vs Deuce
Working Man vs Love Theme from Kiss

Winner Rush
6 - 2

Rush: Rush (Debut Album) - Album Lyrics and Liner Notes

Cygnus-X1.Net: A Tribute to Rush - Neil Peart, Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, John Rutsey

www.cygnus-x1.net

Geddy Lee - Lead Vocals & Bass
Alex Lifeson - Guitars & Vocals
John Rutsey - Drums & Vocals

All songs composed by Lee & Lifeson except 'In The Mood' composed by Lee · Recorded at Toronto Sound Studios · Recorded at Eastern Sound · Remixed at Toronto Sound · Remix Engineer - Terry Brown · Mastered at Masterdisk · (Remastered at Gateway Mastering Studios, Portland, Maine) · Produced by RUSH · Executive Production - SRO · Photographs by BIC Photography · All arrangements by RUSH · Album cover design by Paul Weldon · For best results play at maximum volume · Mastering Consultant Jim Shelton · Mastering: Gilbert Kong · (Remastering: Bob Ludwig and Brian Lee)· Executive Producer-Robin McBride

Road Crew - Ian Grandy & Liam Birt · Special thanks to-Denny Rosencrantz / Cliff Burnstein / Charlie Fach

Of course not to forget all those who have made this possible · Jeff Franklin · Ira Blacker · Sol Saffian · Greg McCutcheon · Wally Meyrowitz · Marsha Weiss · Joe McHugh · Lezlee Monchak · Bob Roper · Peter Taylor · Glenn McLaren · Thanks to Mike & Jules Belkin for their early belief.

Alternate Moon Records liner notes "Thanks"
Special thanks to: Abbey Road Pub and Staff, Doc Cooper, Mr. & Mrs. G. Grandy, Cousin Glenn McLaren, Hal Greenson, Kalua Music, Drew Metcalf, Music Shoppe International, Sheila Posner, R.P.M., Peter Taylor, Paul Weldon

Moon Records is a subsidiary of SRO Productions Ltd.
With Special Thanks to Donna Halper of WMMS in Cleveland for getting the ball rolling

A Moon Production Inc/Personal Direction: Ray Daniels & Vic Wilson of S.R.O. Productions, Toronto, Canada.

© 1974 Mercury Records © 1974 Anthem Entertainment

Out of curiosity, do you happen to know what John Rutsey did after he left Rush?

I know he had diabetes that was causing him grief and was one of the reasons he left the band a few months after this album came out, and I know he died in 2008. I also know his brother Bill was a sports reporter in Toronto, but I can't find any other information on him. I imagine he just got on with life and took a 9-5 job?

 

[Fun For All]

The first albums by Rush and Kiss are my favourites so I’m gonna have to call a tie

 

[jeff2]

Out of curiosity, do you happen to know what John Rutsey did after he left Rush?

I know he had diabetes that was causing him grief and was one of the reasons he left the band a few months after this album came out, and I know he died in 2008. I also know his brother Bill was a sports reporter in Toronto, but I can't find any other information on him. I imagine he just got on with life and took a 9-5 job?

Hard to find any info besides becoming a weight lifter. And who knows how many times he was at the Gym with Alex.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

Hard to find any info besides becoming a weight lifter. And who knows how many times he was at the Gym with Alex.

Yes, I'd also heard that he'd gotten into bodybuilding as well. Which is sort of odd to picture, because he was a small, thin guy when he was in the band.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Out of curiosity, do you happen to know what John Rutsey did after he left Rush?

I know he had diabetes that was causing him grief and was one of the reasons he left the band a few months after this album came out, and I know he died in 2008. I also know his brother Bill was a sports reporter in Toronto, but I can't find any other information on him. I imagine he just got on with life and took a 9-5 job?

John Rutsey - Wikipedia

 

[Sonic Temple]

The diabetes was def. an issue but I also remember reading he had no desire to tour or be on the road, he was so accustomed to his lifestyle that he was content and wanted no part of that lifestyle.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

The diabetes was def. an issue but I also remember reading he had no desire to tour or be on the road, he was so accustomed to his lifestyle that he was content and wanted no part of that lifestyle.

I should have mentioned, I did see this photo of him on Reddit a few years back -- it was taken shortly before he died.

 

[tml]

Out of curiosity, do you happen to know what John Rutsey did after he left Rush?

I know he had diabetes that was causing him grief and was one of the reasons he left the band a few months after this album came out, and I know he died in 2008. I also know his brother Bill was a sports reporter in Toronto, but I can't find any other information on him. I imagine he just got on with life and took a 9-5 job?

It was his other Brother, Mike, who was a long time baseball reporter with the Toronto Sun.

People often point to his diabetes as a reason for his departure from the band. However, he also had significant artistic differences with Geddy and Alex regarding the future path of the bands music. He preferrred straight ahead rock, whereas Geddy and Alex wanted to experiment with progressive styles.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

It was his other Brother, Mike, who was a long time baseball reporter with the Toronto Sun.

People often point to his diabetes as a reason for his departure from the band. However, he also had significant artistic differences with Geddy and Alex regarding the future path of the bands music. He preferrred straight ahead rock, whereas Geddy and Alex wanted to experiment with progressive styles.

Yes, true enough.