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shack

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We agree on the first sentence. The second, I'm not so sure anymore.

Thirty years ago, there was no Squad. There was no critical mass of Arabs and Muslims in the US. Things change.
Things indeed do change, so I can't logically debate against that point. In the meantime, do you think that they will change enough before Israel eliminates Hamas?
 

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The ICJ has already ruled that Israel needs to stop genocide and stop incitement to genocide. Israel is a state and criticizing a state's genocidal actions is not hate speech. On the other hand, your support for a genocidal state's actions against an ethnic group, is infact hate speech.
The ICJ does not pass resolutions or declarations that constitute UN policy. Only the UN General Assembly and/or the UNSC can do so.

You keep repeating this and every time I have to remind you that they are not the UN but simply a small part of the UN as an entire entity. I don't understand why you want to keep going in circles?
 

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Geno, I think all of your spinning is making you dizzy. Your pretzel logic makes no sense and is not based on reality. There is no genocide occurring based on the UN. The body of the UN has passed no such resolution/declaration. You have told us that we must obey what the body of the UN tells us. Please follow your own advice.
Hammy, you need to get your memory checked.
The UN has issued a report saying Israel is committing Genocide.
The UNSC issued a resolution demanding a ceasefire.
The ICJ issued provisional measures demanding Israel not commit genocide, prevent killing Palestinians and allow all aid through.
The ICC is prepping charges.
 
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Things indeed do change, so I can't logically debate against that point. In the meantime, do you think that they will change enough before Israel eliminates Hamas?
No, I don't think they will. Do you think Israel will be safe after they eliminate Hamas? Someone else will take their place. The Palestinians will just produce more Palestinians.
 
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The ICJ does not pass resolutions or declarations that constitute UN policy. Only the UN General Assembly and/or the UNSC can do so.

You keep repeating this and every time I have to remind you that they are not the UN but simply a small part of the UN as an entire entity. I don't understand why you want to keep going in circles?
The ICJ will hold a trial on the charges Israel is committing genocide.

That is what the ICJ does.
 

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The UN has issued a report saying Israel is committing Genocide.
As I say over and over, show us the resolution/declaration and its' number passed by the General Assembly saying Israel is committing genocide. So far you've come up with a big fat ZERO. You should stop lying.

The ICJ issued provisional measures demanding Israel not commit genocide,
No big deal. Seeing as there is no resolution/declaration saying they have, it seems that Israel is complying with international law.
The ICC is prepping charges.
As you've been saying for months and months GeNostradamus. None of your predictions have been correct.
 

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The ICJ provides advisory opinions on whether or not it is genocide. Their advisory opinion is that Israel should stop inciting and committing genocide based on the genocide policy adopted by the UN general assembly in 1951.
My god, you guys are ridiculous.

1)An advisory opinion IS NOT UN policy. It's an opinion, nothing more.
2)For the umpteenth time please show us the UN resolution/declaration condemning Israel in specific for committing genocide. Accusing Israel of genocide is a lie, according to the UN, and as such, it is hate speech intended to demonize Israel.

SHOW US OR STOP LYING.
 

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No, I don't think they will. Do you think Israel will be safe after they eliminate Hamas? Someone else will take their place. The Palestinians will just produce more Palestinians.
If they can buy themselves "safer" conditions for Israeli citizens for 10 or 20 or 30 years, then it's mission accomplished. It will take many years for some new organization to create the infrastructure and army that Hamas had created. Most of it is gone now.

And maybe one of those new Palestinians will be able to convince the other Palestinians of the folly of thinking that more rounds of violence will improve the lot of Gazans/Palis. Like Egypt and soon Saudi Arabia, they realize that living peacefully with their neighbours is their best way of moving forward. They need an intelligent and pragmatic leader and hope that he doesn't get assassinated.

Do you think that Egypt and Saudi Arabia are wrong to take an approach of peace toward Israel?
 

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As I say over and over, show us the resolution/declaration and its' number passed by the General Assembly saying Israel is committing genocide. So far you've come up with a big fat ZERO. You should stop lying.
What a stupid demand, hammy.
The UN doesn't do resolutions that way.
They do reports, followed by trials at the ICJ and ICC and then followed by UNSC resolutions.
Already we've had the UNSC demand a ceasefire and ICJ and ICC trials are coming.

No big deal. Seeing as there is no resolution/declaration saying they have, it seems that Israel is complying with international law.
As you've been saying for months and months GeNostradamus. None of your predictions have been correct.
What has Israel done?
Is Hamas done, hammy?
Or is zionism done, hammy?



 

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Weren't Iranians celebrating after their launched missiles? Seems pretty quiet now...
Maybe the pro-Iran crowd here are just upset not enough Jews died.

Thankfully Iran's leaders compared the 98% shoot down rate of their massive barrage to Israel easily bypassing Iranian defences and decided they'd have enough. Sadly Hamas doesn't value life enough to get that message.
 
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The UNSC demanded a ceasefire, Israel is now a pariah state for refusing.
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Israel has accepted multiple mediated ceasefire deals. It's Hamas that refuses, just like they refuse to release their hostages.

But you worry that if you admit that, you might lose your Jews hater achievement badge.
 

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Maybe the pro-Iran crowd here are just upset not enough Jews died.

Thankfully Iran's leaders compared the 98% shoot down rate of their massive barrage to Israel easily bypassing Iranian defences and decided they'd have enough. Sadly Hamas doesn't value life enough to get that message.
The pro peace crowd here were happy that after Israel destroyed an Iranian embassy the Iranians found a way to respond that stopped the escalation into full on war.

 

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So Hamas' rejection of the UNSC doesn't count because it wasn't a report?

Meanwhile that UN report on hamas' use of rape...?
How was Hamas supposed to ceasefire when its Israel doing all the bombing and invading, basketcase?
There is no UN report on Hamas' rape, only a UN report that lists Israeli accusations, which have all fallen apart and been retracted now.


Why are you so keen on importing your genocide and racist fascism to north america?

 

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Do you think that Egypt and Saudi Arabia are wrong to take an approach of peace toward Israel?
No I don't. I'd have no problem with Israel if they paid their own way. I'd have no problem with the Israel Lobby or their donors if they gave their own blood and treasure to Israel.

But they don't. They steal someone else's.
 
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shack

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The UN does not adopt policies against nations. That is not how the UN works. The UN adopts policies against crimes such as genocide, which it has already done. The ICJ issues advisory opinions per the adopted policy. Per the adopted policy the ICJ has said that it is possible a genocide is being carried out in Gaza and that Israel should stop genocidal actions and stop incitement to genocide. Just because you string the words UN and policy together in a sentence does not mean you make any sense or have any idea of how the UN actually works.
This article from the History Channel completely contradicts this claim of yours.

UN condemns apartheid in South Africa | November 6, 1962 | HISTORY

On November 6, 1962, the United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution condemning South Africa’s racist apartheid policies and calling on all its members to end economic and military relations with the country.

I keep asking you and Geno to provide such a resolution pertaining to Israel. You have both totally failed and now you are resorting to try and sneak these falsehoods into the argument. It is not a good luck for you as you admit defeat.

Please stop lying. The UN clearly adopts policies against nations. That is exactly how it works.
 
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