Belleville Ontario Declares Addiction, Mental Health and Homelessness Emergency

[Not getting younger]

What some responding here don’t seem to understand is that it’s a viscous cycle. Often brought on by economic matters, chemical imbalances, childhood trauma, generational trauma, abusive parents, access or lack of to healthcare and economic matters. So on and so forth. For many, self medicating is about escaping and little more. It’s not complicated.

Just ask indigenous people who have extremely high rates of substance abuses. Or many other small towns in Ontario

 

[Frankfooter]

That would require legislation that is compliant with the Charter in order have addicts forcibly institutionalized and treated for their addictions or mental illness. No government at the federal and provincial levels want to pour billions into the medical field to deal with the issues. The community methadone programs don't work.

Only if you're forcing them.

 

[Josephine]

Its not that its a victim mentality, its that addicts become too focused on the now of getting high to consider anything even longer term than the next meal.

Get them off the streets, give them treatment and time. Or deal with rampant petty theft, some violent crime and unsafe city streets.
Your choice.

They won't do it willingly. And jail is often the place where they stay long enough to get so sort of head on their shoulders with medical attention and sometimes, it's bad enough that they don't want to go back.

Bottom line tho you cannot fix your drug problem if you don't want it and if you don't have the will power to accept that YOU need help. Victim mentality will have you blame everyone except you.

 

[Luna Soleil69]

Some addict makes it very hard to have sympathy for them. The problem with addiction is that your brain camp in a victim mentality. Some will get over it and get real help/grow and others will hurt people around them as a reflexion of how much they have been hurt themselves. They will never admit they are the ones who needs help. They are the one for who, unfortunately, jail might end up a necessity because they have no sense of self control and becomes dangerous for themselves and others....

you obviously have no counselling background and your way of thinking doesnt work thats why politicions are now looking at rehab and legalizi

If you think this is inhumane you must be repulsed by the MAID program...

im gonna do a thread on that sweetheart

 

[Luna Soleil69]

What some responding here don’t seem to understand is that it’s a viscous cycle. Often brought on by economic matters, chemical imbalances, childhood trauma, generational trauma, abusive parents, access or lack of to healthcare and economic matters. So on and so forth. For many, self medicating is about escaping and little more. It’s not complicated.

Just ask indigenous people who have extremely high rates of substance abuses. Or many other small towns in Ontario

i agree with you babe 100% finally someone that looks into the root of the cause. Not everyone can understand the pyscology behind addictions. thank you for your post.

 

[Not getting younger]

i agree with you babe 100% finally someone that looks into the root of the cause. Not everyone can understand the pyscology behind addictions. thank you for your post.

Have you noticed how the self professed self called champions of the disadvantaged often have nothing to say?

 

[Frankfooter]

They won't do it willingly. And jail is often the place where they stay long enough to get so sort of head on their shoulders with medical attention and sometimes, it's bad enough that they don't want to go back.

Bottom line tho you cannot fix your drug problem if you don't want it and if you don't have the will power to accept that YOU need help. Victim mentality will have you blame everyone except you.

Do you think you could fix your drug problem living on the streets?

 

[Josephine]

you obviously have no counselling background and your way of thinking doesnt work thats why politicions are now looking at rehab and legalizi

im gonna do a thread on that sweetheart

No I specifically adapted my answer to you here.

 

[Not getting younger]

Do you think you could fix your drug problem living on the streets?

doesn’t get it.

 

[Frankfooter]

doesn’t get it.

You note the issue is a vicious cycle but are against trying to fix it with more social services and housing to those affected?

 

[Luna Soleil69]

You note the issue is a vicious cycle but are against trying to fix it with more social services and housing to those affected?

yes he knows its a vicious cycle but with the billions Ford gets they should be EXPANDING the mental health beds and resources for addicts and mentally ill.Its a crisis and these people that pretend its not happening because there lifes so rich and fuzzy are part of the problem. The solution is more mental health resouces for people more educated workers with addictions and get Ford to stop giving power to landlords to ruin this province the reason these high priced rents are the way they are is because FORD SIDED WITH THE LANDLORDS AND NOT THE TENANTS HES ABOUT WHO HAS MORE MONEY LIKE CONSERVATIVES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.

 

[Luna Soleil69]

you may think i m crazy saying this .......but i believe it wholeheartedly the top drug dealers in charge the men in suits and tyes not the bottom guys are actually trying to kill off the poor you have to be so strong minded to not do drugs in this world .You could have friends in high status ranks that are drug users, just as easily with poor friends that are drug users. peer pressure and having addicted personalities is all it takes to try it. Then these dealers are lacing everything with fentanyl and just watching this people OD left and centre. Crime also goes up with addiction the theft is offthe charts

 

[Not getting younger]

You note the issue is a vicious cycle but are against trying to fix it with more social services and housing to those affected?

Um hello, have you read any of about 200 threads and various post. I’m tired of repeating myself and trying to treat you like an adult.

Here’s but one clue.
Stop ignoring small town Ontario and wanting more more more for yourself. It might also help alleviate some of that rent demand or gridlock you whine about.

Now let’s see if you will answer one that’s related. I know you won’t because you are too afraid to admit it. And help those you claim to champion like people in Belleville and all around you, you are blissfully unaware of.

for the fourth time.
Why won’t the Cons or Liberals slap tolls on the 400 series, the Qew, and more. Where there is lots of public transit. Despite painfully obviously needing revenue.