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Another idiotic post that has nothing to do with the topic, or related topics and everything to do with you needing to deflect from your inadequacy. As a voter, resident of Ontario, contributor here, and more.

What makes you think you deserve any answers, what so ever. Are you that full of yourself? Let’s ignore the fact, some have been suggested.

What makes you think, people that create problems, are able and competent enough to fix them? See McGuinty/Wynne and JT. Or life in the real world on any topic. Only you and fools like you would for example pay a contractor tens of thousands more to fix a Reno they screwed up in the first place….and only fools like you refuse to accept reality or learn from history..
DoFo is so much worse than the libs or NDP for Ontario.
The cons always make it worse.

 

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DoFo is so much worse than the libs or NDP for Ontario.
The cons always make it worse.

Only fools can’t grasp basic finance and economics.Nor are they even capable of reading FAO reports and grasping what it says. Only fools utterly ignore very left wing economists who also warned you.

Let’s start with an exploding population and Boomers, and mountains of debt and a god awful mess you made. And warnings you’ve ignored for near 25 years.in short stop freaking whining about a mess you made, and blaming others.

Aren’t you smart and politically aware. Not!
 

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Only fools can’t grasp basic finance and economics.Nor are they even capable of reading FAO reports and grasping what it says. Only fools utterly ignore very left wing economists who also warned you.

Let’s start with an exploding population and Boomers, and mountains of debt and a god awful mess you made. And warnings you’ve ignored for near 25 years.in short stop freaking whining about a mess you made, and blaming others.

Aren’t you smart and politically aware. Not!
You're ranting again.

Let me know if you have something interesting to say.
 

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You're ranting again.

Let me know if you have something interesting to say.
Not at all Frank. Just stating the obvious. You’re a fool who can’t even figure out why wait times are increasing…..have you ever heard of immigration and Boomers. You know, the simple stuff you can’t grasp in the FAO.

As always, all you can do is blame others for your ignorance on topics and the problems you create.
 

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Not at all Frank. Just stating the obvious. You’re a fool who can’t even figure out why wait times are increasing…..have you ever heard of immigration and Boomers. You know, the simple stuff you can’t grasp in the FAO.

As always, all you can do is blame others for your ignorance on topics and the problems you create.
Wait times are increasing because of health care cutbacks.
DoFo's Bill 124 froze nurse's wages so nurses moved to the US or other provinces where they pay was better.
Then DoFo hired private contract nurses for 2x the price.

Same with private surgeries, they cost 2x-4x the cost of publicly funded surgeries.
Likely they same with Shoppers now delivering all vaccines.

Then combine that with DoFo now spending the least per capita on health care of all provinces in Canada.

 
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Wait times are increasing because of health care cutbacks.
DoFo's Bill 124 froze nurse's wages so nurses moved to the US or other provinces where they pay was better.
Then DoFo hired private contract nurses for 2x the price.

Same with private surgeries, they cost 2x-4x the cost of publicly funded surgeries.
Likely they same with Shoppers now delivering all vaccines.

Then combine that with DoFo now spending the least per capita on health care of all provinces in Canada.

As per a year ago, Ontario seems to be better for wait times than every other province and below the national average.



https://www.fraserinstitute.org/categories/health-care-wait-times
 

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Wait times are increasing because of health care cutbacks.
DoFo's Bill 124 froze nurse's wages so nurses moved to the US or other provinces where they pay was better.
Then DoFo hired private contract nurses for 2x the price.

Same with private surgeries, they cost 2x-4x the cost of publicly funded surgeries.
Likely they same with Shoppers now delivering all vaccines.

Then combine that with DoFo now spending the least per capita on health care of all provinces in Canada.

Still making shit up, still swallowing koolaid, still unable to read a budget, or a FAO report are you Frank. How illiterate are you? Answer: extremely
 

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Doesn’t matter if you lean left or right in your political views this is the first time in my 50 years that the leader of Canada is laughed at and called a dictator around world media . Justin Trudeau is just terrible imho . Unfortunately we are all only getting to vote for the lesser of two evils nowadays . Politicians never tell the truth and are all corrupt imho
Nobody can disagree everybody is struggling financially and we are all feeling the hit life is exponentially worse under this liberal government
 
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Beaver you are truly sad.
After thoroughly embarrassing yourself with your lack of knowledge, many many many times, you’re worse than an energizer bunny. You just keep going and going… this is the best deflection you can come up with?

1) Have I ever said otherwise? Nope. Now you’re just making shit up..

2) have I not repeatedly said. The 2k/month for the people that were out of work was insulting? Or those that lost businesses? Yes I have. Clearly, you have the memory of a sieve. Guilty as charged.

3) The relative health authorities were the ones calling the shots. What do you actually know?

4) what have you done for them since?
/crickets

Stood up for them? “Argued” for anything?
Nope, just the opposite, hence you throw under them under the bus. Over and over and over again…And call them Freedumb Truckers and dumb red necks. Your level of awareness and elitism is so bad, you can’t even connect those dots, nor understand why PP is popular. You are the lefts worst enemy. Nor do you grasp you made the bed, and are whining about consequences. Including the responses you get.

Like manufacturing that you’d forgotten about, you’ve already forgotten about them.cant even grasp we just went billions into debt, because they were barely getting by to begin with. But this time it’s the have nots in retail/service sectors and more blue collar workers/small business owners… Aka how many times have I mentioned being unable to save for their own retirements, or warnings about healthcare, you and other left wing voters ignored….you don’t even know who Drummond is or Mintz is.


And like soaring hydro, and green insanity and Ontario debt levels that limit government abilities…Be that fix hydro, reduce revenue, plug holes in PS, try to spur a little economic growth, especially outside the GTA…( see also capital bleed) you know, socioeconomic shit you claim to champion…and claim to grasp….all you do is want more more more.

Vote buying today, taxes today, inflation today (which you don’t grasp), and interest rates ( you don’t grasp the BoCs role whose job it is to try and keep inflation at 2%, no matter the cause and there are many…including wage increases, buying demand, , whether that’s excess money and people spending…or growth in gdp and people spending) Maybe now a small light bulb is going off….See both Harper and tepid growth, and also now debt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gdp.I doubt it, but can always hope.

plus other factors you’re blind to..Like why housing demand in the GTA and when prices took off ( 2008-2012) and your whines are so bad and loud.
Really, this is all you resort to when you cannot answer a simple question? Once again why does a Nation like Japan that has the highest Debt to GDP ratio and yet has the lowest inflation rate of all the G7 Nations? You as a right winger buy all the BS spewed by the Far Right Extremists who clearly have a vendetta from the word go against any leader that is either a Moderate or Left of Centre. You cannot comprehend that in the current situation around the Globe, all the Leaders are under scrutiny whether they are to the left or the right of the spectrum. Look at the UK where they have a Conservative PM and how unpopular that Rishi Sunak is:


Yes, even worse than Trudeau's popularity in Canada. Whatever measures of cuts, cuts cuts, have taken place in order to cut the deficits in the UK, it has only made the economy sink further and further down where poverty etc. is much higher than in Canada. Pee Pee can only take advantage of Canada's hit from this global supply chain issues, droughts from forest fires & Climate Change and conflicts such as the Russia invasion, plus Israel / Palestinian Wars to feed his own propaganda for now. He pretends that he cares for the average Canadians housing issues, when he is one of the causes by owning multiple rental units. Yet we know that he marched in tandem with the far right is all he has in his belt, as well as to go the UK Conservatives way of cuts, cuts cuts and then when the economy tanks........ blame the Previous Liberal Government. But hilarious when you guys seem to make an excuse for Harper inheriting what was a surplus and a booming economy and then handing one where Canada was still in a recession. But in the present situation and circumstances, all you do is point the finger at the incumbent PM. Just keep your anger to yourself, as you have no real responses but just insults!!
 

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Really, this is all you resort to when you cannot answer a simple question? Once again why does a Nation like Japan that has the highest Debt to GDP ratio and yet has the lowest inflation rate of all the G7 Nations? You as a right winger buy all the BS spewed by the Far Right Extremists who clearly have a vendetta from the word go against any leader that is either a Moderate or Left of Centre. You cannot comprehend that in the current situation around the Globe, all the Leaders are under scrutiny whether they are to the left or the right of the spectrum. Look at the UK where they have a Conservative PM and how unpopular that Rishi Sunak is:


Yes, even worse than Trudeau's popularity in Canada. Whatever measures of cuts, cuts cuts, have taken place in order to cut the deficits in the UK, it has only made the economy sink further and further down where poverty etc. is much higher than in Canada. Pee Pee can only take advantage of Canada's hit from this global supply chain issues, droughts from forest fires & Climate Change and conflicts such as the Russia invasion, plus Israel / Palestinian Wars to feed his own propaganda for now. He pretends that he cares for the average Canadians housing issues, when he is one of the causes by owning multiple rental units. Yet we know that he marched in tandem with the far right is all he has in his belt, as well as to go the UK Conservatives way of cuts, cuts cuts and then when the economy tanks........ blame the Previous Liberal Government. But hilarious when you guys seem to make an excuse for Harper inheriting what was a surplus and a booming economy and then handing one where Canada was still in a recession. But in the present situation and circumstances, all you do is point the finger at the incumbent PM. Just keep your anger to yourself, as you have no real responses but just insults!!
Japan?
You may want to use a better example...average wages in Japan haven't changed in almost 30 years and households are now suffering.

The Bank of Japan (BOJ) has decided to stick to its monetary easing policy amid accelerating global inflation growth. Inflation in Japan is the lowest among major economies, with the Consumer Price Index (CPI) rising 2.8% in August, compared to 8.3% in the US and 9.1% in the EU. Even so, infrastructure costs, such as electricity and gas rates, have increased by more than 20%, and food prices have risen by around 10%. This has come as a big shock to the public in Japan, as the country has not experienced price hikes for decades.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/japan-low-inflation-heres-why/
 

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Japan?
You may want to use a better example...average wages in Japan haven't changed in almost 30 years and households are now suffering.

The Bank of Japan (BOJ) has decided to stick to its monetary easing policy amid accelerating global inflation growth. Inflation in Japan is the lowest among major economies, with the Consumer Price Index (CPI) rising 2.8% in August, compared to 8.3% in the US and 9.1% in the EU. Even so, infrastructure costs, such as electricity and gas rates, have increased by more than 20%, and food prices have risen by around 10%. This has come as a big shock to the public in Japan, as the country has not experienced price hikes for decades.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/japan-low-inflation-heres-why/
Skoob, why try to explain economics to a grade schooler who can’t even grasp the BoCs role here despite how many times that been hinted at and stated bluntly. Like other things be it provincial economies, manufacturing etc. unless he’s held by the hand, he hasn’t even thought of them…

He simply can’t wrap his brain around anything more complex than but but but rhe G7. Never mind the fact he isn’t using net debt.

Never mind the BoJ, or wages or ……
 
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Japan?
You may want to use a better example...average wages in Japan haven't changed in almost 30 years and households are now suffering.

The Bank of Japan (BOJ) has decided to stick to its monetary easing policy amid accelerating global inflation growth. Inflation in Japan is the lowest among major economies, with the Consumer Price Index (CPI) rising 2.8% in August, compared to 8.3% in the US and 9.1% in the EU. Even so, infrastructure costs, such as electricity and gas rates, have increased by more than 20%, and food prices have risen by around 10%. This has come as a big shock to the public in Japan, as the country has not experienced price hikes for decades.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/japan-low-inflation-heres-why/
Every nation is suffering from this inflation. Japan, a lot less as they have always had very low inflation. Very recently the wages have gone up and only marginally.
But once again why is the inflation not sky high when their Debt to GDP ratio is a staggering 255%? Especially, as the right wingers are constantly bitching as to it being the reason why Canada has a high inflation. That is even though Canada has one of the lowest inflation rates among the G7 Nations!!
 
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Wait times are increasing because of health care cutbacks.
DoFo's Bill 124 froze nurse's wages so nurses moved to the US or other provinces where they pay was better.
Then DoFo hired private contract nurses for 2x the price.

Same with private surgeries, they cost 2x-4x the cost of publicly funded surgeries.
Likely they same with Shoppers now delivering all vaccines.

Then combine that with DoFo now spending the least per capita on health care of all provinces in Canada.

He is a wasted band width. You can keep on showing him all the proof, but he will never accept the facts and only show his true colours with his insults, insults insults!!
 
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What specifically in that post are you claiming was made up?
Can you explain in plain English explain how more spending each year = cuts? Can you read a budget?

As for the cause can you not read the FAO report if you don’t want to use your brain, or common sense. It’s called population growth ( and Boomers)…kinda like housing..doh!!!
and demand>>>>>supply Frank. Learn to read, and grasp budgets…You know shit you’ve been warned about over and over but chose to ignore and keep going deeper in debt…
Deal with it.


Every nation is suffering from this inflation. Japan, a lot less as they have always had very low inflation. Very recently the wages have gone up and only marginally.
But once again why is the inflation not sky high when their Debt to GDP ratio is a staggering 255%? Especially, as the right wingers are constantly bitching as to it being the reason why Canada has a high inflation. That is even though Canada has one of the lowest inflation rates among the G7 Nations!!
Some have, or do. Same as some Liberals still stick their heads in the sand. If you could read English, many times in the thread it’s been a mentioned there are more factors and more than just one cause. Nor is Debt/GDP ever used in relation to inflation or a cause. If you grasped economics you’d also understand that growth in gdp causes it to. You’d also grasp the BoCs role, which you clearly don’t.

Clearly Beaver you don’t know the first thing. Kind of like not grasping provincial economies. Or do you want to deny that too.
 
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Skoob, why try to explain economics to a grade schooler who can’t even grasp the BoCs role here despite how many times that been hinted at and stated bluntly. Like other things be it provincial economies, manufacturing etc. unless he’s held by the hand, he hasn’t even thought of them…

He simply can’t wrap his brain around anything more complex than but but but rhe G7. Never mind the fact he isn’t using net debt.

Never mind the BoJ, or wages or ……

This is really the level of the debate here.
 
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Every nation is suffering from this inflation. Japan, a lot less as they have always had very low inflation. Very recently the wages have gone up and only marginally.
But once again why is the inflation not sky high when their Debt to GDP ratio is a staggering 255%? Especially, as the right wingers are constantly bitching as to it being the reason why Canada has a high inflation. That is even though Canada has one of the lowest inflation rates among the G7 Nations!!
I showed you the facts and you respond with your biased opinion.
Facts don't lie. Accept them.
 

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Skoob, why try to explain economics to a grade schooler who can’t even grasp the BoCs role here despite how many times that been hinted at and stated bluntly. Like other things be it provincial economies, manufacturing etc. unless he’s held by the hand, he hasn’t even thought of them…

He simply can’t wrap his brain around anything more complex than but but but rhe G7. Never mind the fact he isn’t using net debt.

Never mind the BoJ, or wages or ……
I do it for sport.
If I was doing it actually thinking they could comprehend it would be an exercise in futility.

Therefore, it's more the thrill of the chase, than any expectation they will understand reality.
 
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