You see, it's racist to say Hamas are terrorists just because Canada and the West considers them a terrorist group but it's perfectly okay to say all Israelis are terrorists.
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Yet you keep trying to justify Hamas attacking Israeli towns, murdering civilians in their home, sexually abusing women, and holding old ladies and children hostage.
Except they are a democracy and the Palestinian leadership are far more racist.
You keep claiming to support democracy and Palestinian self determination but refuse to listen when only 5% of them want to be Israeli.
I doubt it. Universities have codes of conduct that create limits more restrictive than the free speech for an average citizen.
You are a disgusting liar.
Arguing for equal rights in Israel/Palestine isn't saying anyone has to leave.
Just stop killing children.
That shouldn't be so hard a thing to agree on.
Why are you bringing up the Likud motto?
Oh, I know.
You are lying, basketcase.
I have never said any such thing, that's a pretty disgusting lie.
I call for a ceasefire and equal rights, not any killing or anyone targeting civilians.
You are backing a genocide that has killed 10,000 children and yesterday killed 3 Israelis waving white flags.
Israelis are out on the street, not for killing 10,000 children of course, for the IDF shooting 3 Israelis.
Israel is not a democracy.
Its an apartheid state.
You can't call yourself a democratic state if you won't let 2 million people vote or have rights.
Israel has confirmed they will never allow a Palestinian state which confirms they are apartheid.
Any moral person should take a stand against apartheid.
And when you add genocide?
Considering the big splashy thing is that hedge fund manager, I am pretty comfortable with the right wing label.
And yes, alumni and big donors like to throw their weight around.
What is Penn's endowment? Harvard can push back against their donors and alumni because they have the rep of being Harvard and some 50 billion dollars in their endowment. University of Penn can't be much more than 20 billion and they don't have the name.
But what does that have to do with your question?
You asked if it would be different for a different group.
It is equally restrictive.
The politics are a bit more complicated than that, but I wouldn't necessarily say these donors Jewish or not are voting Republican.
And that is my point. Many universities have disciplined students for hate speech so it seems inconsistent that they wouldn't clearly condemn hate speech against Jews.
You have such interesting fantasies. Israel is a democracy and democratic rights include NOT forcing Palestinians to become Israelis or live in an Egalitarian One State only 5% of Palestinians support.
p.s. The extremely low support Netanyahu has right now is something positive for a negotiated peace. There are some Palestinian leaders who seem to realize this as well.
Senior PA official: Hamas must ‘reconsider all its policies and methods’ after war
Hussein al-Sheikh, seen as potential successor to Mahmoud Abbas, says 'after all this [killing],' there must be a 'serious, honest and responsible assessment' of Palestinian cause
www.timesofisrael.com
The problem is what you want defined as hate speech, you want keffiyeh designated as hate speech but would scream bloody murder if someone suggested kippah was hate speech. You want to use this definition of antisemitism as a form of attack on Palestinians, that's all.
Apartheid states are not democratic, end of story.You have such interesting fantasies. Israel is a democracy and democratic rights include NOT forcing Palestinians to become Israelis or live in an Egalitarian One State only 5% of Palestinians support.
p.s. The extremely low support Netanyahu has right now is something positive for a negotiated peace. There are some Palestinian leaders who seem to realize this as well.
Too bad people like you think continual violence will rid the region of its Jews.Senior PA official: Hamas must ‘reconsider all its policies and methods’ after war
Hussein al-Sheikh, seen as potential successor to Mahmoud Abbas, says 'after all this [killing],' there must be a 'serious, honest and responsible assessment' of Palestinian cause
Netanyahu confirmed there will never be a two state solution and there is only the one state apartheid Israel.
Apartheid states cannot be a democracy.
I heard a presentation by someone who works at Stanford University regarding institutions making statements about political stuff. Stanford, along with so many institutions commented on the BLM movement in the wake of the George Floyd murder. But they got a new president from the University of Illinois, where they've had a long-standing policy that the institution did not make statements of any kind. The reason: They didn't want to influence discussion in the classroom or on campus. If they came out on one side, the other side might not feel comfortable talking. This is something that I don't disagree with.
HOWEVER....there should be official comment on situation where one group of people is calling for genocide. It shouldn't matter if its a group of incel neo nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us!," or pro-Palestinian groups calling for the death of Israel. Or any other group calling for mass killings.
The reality is that not all speech is free. In the US you can say nearly anything and the government won't come after you. But that doesn't mean you won't become a pariah, lose your job or friends. In Canada, we have hate speech laws. Are they perfect? No, nothing is. But I don't think tolerating the intolerant is the right call.
