Archive of Extreme Weather Events Gobally

[GameBoy27]

The real question is, what are the top polluters like the US, China and India doing to reduce GHG emissions. The world’s top three emitters contribute 15 times the greenhouse gas emissions of the bottom 100.

In fact, Canada's greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions currently represent about 1.6% of the global total. We could shut down the entire country and it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

 

[shack]

Now that it's happening the climate denier are switching their narrative that's it's all man made.

Just like "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."

 

[shack]

The real question is, what are the top polluters like the US, China and India doing to reduce GHG emissions. The world’s top three emitters contribute 15 times the greenhouse gas emissions of the bottom 100.

In fact, Canada's greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions currently represent about 1.6% of the global total. We could shut down the entire country and it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

If the plan isn't perfect, don't do anything at all.

We've heard that one before. It's used to do nothing about gun violence and now do nothing about the climate. It's a pathetic argument.

I'm not going to try losing any weight because there is too much for me to lose. Pathetic.

The real question is what can we do to help right now, even if it's just a little. Wasn't it Confuscius who said "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step?"

Let's stop using that lame argument.

 

[GameBoy27]

If the plan isn't perfect, don't do anything at all.

We've heard that one before. It's used to do nothing about gun violence and now do nothing about the climate. It's a pathetic argument.

I'm not going to try losing any weight because there is too much for me to lose. Pathetic.

The real question is what can we do to help right now, even if it's just a little. Wasn't it Confuscius who said "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step?"

Let's stop using that lame argument.

But it's a realistic argument. OTOH, Canada is doing lots of things. Unfortunately, it will have very little impact on the worldwide amount of GHG produced each year.

What Canada should be doing is focusing on delivering huge quantities natural gas to China so they can use it to fire their power plants instead of using dirty coal. That would actually do some good. But the Liberals are more interested in shutting down such a plan.

 

[Y_Diner]

@shack don’t waste your time or energy trying to explain that what is to those that are brainwashed.
Something catastrophic and life changing has to effect people to get them to think differently.

“When did Noah build the ark?
Before the rain”.

 

[Frankfooter]

The real question is, what are the top polluters like the US, China and India doing to reduce GHG emissions. The world’s top three emitters contribute 15 times the greenhouse gas emissions of the bottom 100.

In fact, Canada's greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions currently represent about 1.6% of the global total. We could shut down the entire country and it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

First, look at per capita CO2 levels.
Second, note that the top 10% of earners release 40% of CO2.

So you could start with easy moves like banning personal jets, that hits the rich but for 99.9% of the world they won't care or notice a thing.

 

[GameBoy27]

First, look at per capita CO2 levels.

I can't believe I have to explain this to you. That's due to emissions from the oil and gas as well as the transport sectors. Canada is very large country which means people do a lot of driving to get from point to point and many goods and services are delivered, long distances by truck. We also have long, cold winters which means people use a lot of energy heating their homes.

Second, note that the top 10% of earners release 40% of CO2.

So you could start with easy moves like banning personal jets, that hits the rich but for 99.9% of the world they won't care or notice a thing.

Ban personal jets? OMG, you're hilarious.

Like I said, you could shut down all of Canada and it would only reduce global GHG emissions by 1.6%. Which wouldn't make the slightest difference to global warming. Not to mention, just about the entire population would freeze to death. Got any other brilliant ideas?

 

[shack]

@shack don’t waste your time or energy trying to explain that what is to those that are brainwashed.
Something catastrophic and life changing has to effect people to get them to think differently.

“When did Noah build the ark?
Before the rain”.

I'm thinking that before long it will be a looong list and visually impressive as a whole, not as individual events. They like to pick apart and make excuses for each event (like the same people do for each mass shooting) but the point is that the frequency of these events is increasing almost exponentially. It's like a "seeing is believing" type of thing. It's sad that so many of them just keep their heads in the sand. This way they may have an occasional glimpse of reality.

Unfortunately, though, you're probably right.

 

[shack]

I can't believe I have to explain this to you. That's due to emissions from the oil and gas as well as the transport sectors. Canada is very large country which means people do a lot of driving to get from point to point and many goods and services are delivered, long distances by truck. We also have long, cold winters which means people use a lot of energy heating their homes.

Ban personal jets? OMG, you're hilarious.

Like I said, you could shut down all of Canada and it would only reduce global GHG emissions by 1.6%. Which wouldn't make the slightest difference to global warming. Not to mention, just about the entire population would freeze to death. Got any other brilliant ideas?

Thanks for proving my point. Instead of taking a number of small steps that cumulatively should help, all we get is more excuses to do nothing.

 

[dvous11]

If Canada’s ghg is only 1.6% of the globe can someone explain why we are paying a carbon tax on top of 40+%income tax on top of 13% sales tax on top of 50% capital gains tax on top of property tax…..and how that carbon tax does anything to decrease that minuscule ghg emission compared to India and China?

 

[shack]

If Canada’s ghg is only 1.6% of the globe can someone explain why we are paying a carbon tax on top of 40+%income tax on top of 13% sales tax on top of 50% capital gains tax on top of property tax…..and how that carbon tax does anything to decrease that minuscule ghg emission compared to India and China?

I think you hit the nail on the head.

The real issue for all the deniers is that it will cost money to improve things. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[dvous11]

I think you hit the nail on the head.

The real issue for all the deniers is that it will cost money to improve things. Nothing more and nothing less.

Don't we pay enough .....actually well beyond more than enough already?

 

[Y_Diner]

Don't we pay enough .....actually well beyond more than enough already?

Doug Ford and the likes would say it’s not enough.
Then blame Ottawa.
Then Justin will allow more immigrants in that don’t want to work and continue draining the economy.

 

[Frankfooter]

I can't believe I have to explain this to you. That's due to emissions from the oil and gas as well as the transport sectors. Canada is very large country which means people do a lot of driving to get from point to point and many goods and services are delivered, long distances by truck. We also have long, cold winters which means people use a lot of energy heating their homes.

I can't believe you think only Canada has long distances to travel and that is special from the rest of the world.
You can't say that only developing countries should curb GHG's because there are more people there, that's a right wing/fossil fuel talking point designed to gaslight the rest of the world.

Ban personal jets? OMG, you're hilarious.

Like I said, you could shut down all of Canada and it would only reduce global GHG emissions by 1.6%. Which wouldn't make the slightest difference to global warming. Not to mention, just about the entire population would freeze to death. Got any other brilliant ideas?

I'm sure you're the guy that goes out to dinner with a big group of people and doesn't tip at all.
You're just doing a lot of justifying on why you personally shouldn't have to change anything, that's all that is.

You're either part of the problem or the solution and you just made your choice.
Your kids, should you have them, will know.

Why don't you have a read at that commie pinko Macleans to see what you're leaving them.

Canada in the Year 2060 - Macleans.ca

Summers lost to fire and smoke. Biblical floods. Dying forests. Retreating coasts. Economic turmoil and political unrest. It’s going to be a weird century. Here’s what it will look like—and how Canada can get through it.

macleans.ca

 

[Frankfooter]

If Canada’s ghg is only 1.6% of the globe can someone explain why we are paying a carbon tax on top of 40+%income tax on top of 13% sales tax on top of 50% capital gains tax on top of property tax…..and how that carbon tax does anything to decrease that minuscule ghg emission compared to India and China?

I think next is to write the CRA and say that you're only 0.0001% of the population so the country really doesn't need you to pay any taxes.

 

[Frankfooter]

Don't we pay enough .....actually well beyond more than enough already?

You're paying more for home insurance this year because of fires across Canada.
You're paying more for food because of crop failure, this year's crop is much worse.
Already those are costing you more than the carbon tax.

 

[dirtyharry555]

The real question is, what are the top polluters like the US, China and India doing to reduce GHG emissions. The world’s top three emitters contribute 15 times the greenhouse gas emissions of the bottom 100.

In fact, Canada's greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions currently represent about 1.6% of the global total. We could shut down the entire country and it wouldn't make the slightest difference.

Emissions are so high in China and India because that's where all the manufacturing is done. We used to have acid rain here and severe smog days due to industry in Toronto... but all that went overseas in the 80s and 90s. The problem never went away, it was just relocated.

The emissions whiners don't want to give up any of the goods they buy at the store.... everything that is made in China and India, so this battle against emissions is a farce.

 

[oil&gas]

“When did Noah build the ark?
Before the rain”.

Tell that to the governments of Norway, Canada, Australia, the U.K and
the U.S. to find out if they are in agreement with you. They have two things
in common, the 1st thing being they all believe in climate change and have
set the zero emission goal. The ark they are building are either for profit or
for energy security. Look to them to figure out the right thing to do to combat
climate change. These countries are all exploring and producing all the fossil
fuel resources they can lay their hands on before global climate catastrophe
strikes. Future generation will be saved if we deplete all fossil fuel resources
in our generation to help them achieve zero emission.

 

[Y_Diner]

Tell that to the governments of Norway, Canada, Australia, the U.K and
the U.S. to find out if they are in agreement with you. They have two things
in common, the 1st thing being they all believe in climate change and have
set the zero emission goal. The ark they are building are either for profit or
for energy security. Look to them to figure out the right thing to do to combat
climate change. These countries are all exploring and producing all the fossil
fuel resources they can lay their hands on before global climate catastrophe
strikes. Future generation will be saved if we deplete all fossil fuel resources
in our generation to help them achieve zero emission.

Yes, no shit Sherlock.
What you said is beyond obvious.

 

[shack]

Don't we pay enough .....actually well beyond more than enough already?

Thanks for agreeing that the money is the bottom line.