France Riots - Their George Floyd Moment

mandrill

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Rioters have no interest in working. They don't participate in the job market in any meaningful way. Deport every last one of them.
Well clearly some of the rioters do have day jobs. And many of them were born in France and are French citizens. Where do you take that?
 
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Rioters have no interest in working. They don't participate in the job market in any meaningful way. Deport every last one of them.

hi boss

i will be taking a longer lunch break today as there is a historical library i need to burn down in order to show you how badly you have treated me
I will stay late to night to make up the time
 

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Well clearly some of the rioters do have day jobs. And many of them were born in France and are French citizens. Where do you take that?
if they are rioting, looting and committing arson, you take that trash to prison
 

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If riots escalate the most likely response from right-wingers will not be one
for them to take protest seriously but to seize the opportunity to gain power.

 

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If riots escalate the most likely response from right-wingers will not be one
for them to take protest seriously but to seize the opportunity to gain power.

you can not take protests which include rioting looting and arson as serious
how much empathy can one have for nutjobs who steals and sets property a blasé ?

Dr King advocated peaceful demonstrations & that drove the racists nuts
had he advocated violence his legacy would have been as a unhinged radical rather than a man of peace and a positive change maker
 

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Unless and until right wingers stop being idiotic and are willing to take protests seriously, and address core issues, these types of violent civil unrests will continue to occur.
Unless and until protests are non-violent they will be viewed as idiotic and excuses to riot loot and commit arson
violent civil unrests will never be taken seriously and will be delt with force
 
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France's immigration policy has been a raging success. Along with the rest of Western Europe. I got it wrong. Carry on.......
It's fizzled because they make no effort to assimilate the immigrant communities. Compare to how Canada does things.
 
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It's fizzled because they make no effort to assimilate the immigrant communities. Compare to how Canada does things.
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So let me get this straight. It is France's fault that they cant assimilate immigrant communities of millions of people who have no claim on France other than they have chosen to squat there with hands outstretched . Not the effort of the immigrants to assimilate to the host country.
It's working out great in Canada. What was it? One million immigrants last year and more to come. Homelessness and joblessness in Canada. Native communities without clean drinking water. The US can't even take in one million new people each year.
Where did the Western governments get the idea that it was a genius move to take in millions of people from other countries that have populations that outnumber them by hundreds of millions, who don't know the language. Cling on to religious extremism. Have no intention of fitting in. Why is is a one way street? Why aren't we clamoring to move en masse to North Africa. South Asia. The middle east? Apart from the fact that we wouldn't last a week there? Why don't we let them all in so we are a complete minority outnumbered by 90%? I'm sure they will look after us.
 
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So let me get this straight. It is France's fault that they cant assimilate immigrant communities of millions of people who have no claim on France other than they have chosen to squat there with hands outstretched . Not the effort of the immigrants to assimilate to the host country.
It's working out great in Canada. What was it? One million immigrants last year and more to come. Homelessness and joblessness in Canada. Native communities without clean drinking water. The US can't even take in one million new people each year.....................
Immigration has greatly enriched our cultural diversity which I am grateful for.
And being an immigrant myself I am more pro- than anti-immigration. That being
said, I am also worrying about our immigration policy being guided by political correctness.
I'd rather see Canada bringing in no more than one-fifth of one million immigrants
and preferably those who bring with them professional skills in demand and capital
to invest in nation's industries. Cultural diversity is great but we have to be pragmatic
with our immigration policies.

 

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Immigration has greatly enriched our cultural diversity which I am grateful for.
And being an immigrant myself I am more pro- than anti-immigration. That being
said, I am also worrying about our immigration policy being guided by political correctness.
I'd rather see Canada bringing in no more than one-fifth of one million immigrants
and preferably those who bring with them professional skills in demand and capital
to invest in nation's industries. Cultural diversity is great but we have to be pragmatic
with our immigration policies.

Why nit pick? Bring em all in I say. We've got room.
 
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Assimilation means, the immigrant forgets their cultural origins, and completely blends in with the local population. This will never happen for 1st generation immigrants, nor should it be expected to happen. For example, I still neither follow any North American sports nor understand them (or have any interest in them for that matter). I still watch and follow only cricket. Integration on the other hand should definitely happen. But it is a two way street. You cannot integrate with a people who do not want to have anything to do with you. Canadians in general, despite what you may read from a few ignorant posters on TERB (lol), are open to accepting immigrants more readily than France (from what I have read). Over there, these immigrants live in segregated poor communities. They are not accepted for jobs because their names are ethnic (this happens to an extent in Canada via the Canadian Experience requirement, but it is usually for a short while and gets better with time). They are heavily racially profiled and are not treated well. Canada is far more accepting and infact has developed an immigration system that generally ensures that people who come here are ones that will easily integrate and most importantly succeed.

Second, this idea that immigrants are somehow outnumbering you is racist paranoia created by some extreme right wing nut jobs. 44% of Canadians are either 1st or 2nd generation immigrants. You or your ancestors were immigrants. Immigrants today are no different. If you are worried about cultural issues, then Canada is pluralistic. Even without immigrants from India or the middle east, you have your own Italian, Portuguese and other ethnic enclaves where those individual cultures still thrive. The more recent immigrants are no different.

And to your last sentence, yes, Canada does need immigration. Both to pay into the system for social services and pensions and also to fill labour shortages.
When you have a population of 1.5 billion with a large number coming to a country of 40 million, on a continuing basis, there will be a tipping point fairly quickly where the original settlers, colonists, whatever, will become a minority within a few decades. Not that it's a threat.
Without harping on the obvious. It is completely a one way street. None of the countries at the front of the exodus are welcoming anyone coming their way.
For the sake of argument if China had a population of 1.5 trillion and a large percentage decided that India would be a nice place to move to, do you think Indians would feel completely secure?
 
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And to your last sentence, yes, Canada does need immigration. Both to pay into the system for social services and pensions and also to fill labour shortages.
Not that I disagree with you but I suspect that bringing in more immigrants is not
going to help with deficit reduction. Surplus as opposed to deficit government
spending should work better in paying into social services. If we have a problem
with labour shortage we also have a problem of not having enough capital to
increase employment. It is the quality not the quantity of immigrants we are
bringing in that is more important.
 
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