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Insidious Von

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Has the UK Conservatives lost touch with reality/

They want to replace Boris Johnson, that's fine if there is someone more competent. Instead the front runners are significantly worse, one is willfully ignorant on what invoking Article 16 actually means and the other is an adherent of Trickle Down Economics. Maybe they should consider Geoff Assel, it can't get any worse. Mr. Assel was a producer on Monty Python's Flying Circus and the voice of Pablo Casals.

 

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I actually pity Boris Johnson, his party is stabbing him in the back.

Can't blame him for wanting to party, wish I could. Never mind the Queen being alone she's 94, had she been invited I doubt she could kick her heels and flap her skirt like she once could. What's spooking the Conservatives is the blow back their getting in the outlands over levelling up. Prior to Brexit, it would have been possible for the rich South-East and London to give something back to the outlying regions...it was never proposed. With Brexit biting deep London is feeling the pain, levelling up would eventually mean spreading the pain - which is what Rishi Sunak is currently doing.

Levelling up goes against Thatcher principles, it was attempted by PM Harold Wilson in the 60's. John Lennon even wrote a song about it.

 

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Prime Minister Narendra Modi said that there must be unlimited immigration the UK for Indian Citizens as a provision of a Free Trade Deal. Talks have begun.

 

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David Cameron went looking for free trade with India back in 2014, this is what he heard.

 

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Vladimir Putin is driving the EU closer together. According to the latest economic figures, the former PIGS (Portugal, Italy,Greece,Spain) are driving the EU's economy. With London no longer holding financial hegemony, it's starting to look like economic liberation.

Brexiteers - We want our freedom!
EU - But you don't have a parachute
Brexiteers - WE WANT OUR FREEDOMS AND WE WANT THEM NOW.
EU - Ok, go then.
Brexiteers - (just before they hit the ground) fuckin EU cunts, its their fault.

 

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India/UK Free Trade talks are not going well.

The British Raj actually WAS the best thing that could happen to India.

It turned a religiously bigoted, extremely violent, corrupt, caste-ridden, backward country where .001% of the population owned 99.9999% of the wealth into a place that was decently and properly run for 100 years. And now the Indians are resentful cunts about that fact.
 

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The British Raj actually WAS the best thing that could happen to India.

It turned a religiously bigoted, extremely violent, corrupt, caste-ridden, backward country where .001% of the population owned 99.9999% of the wealth into a place that was decently and properly run for 100 years. And now the Indians are resentful cunts about that fact.
Don't agree Mandrill, India generated 20% of the world's economy when The East India Company conquered Bengal. By the time the British left in 1947, that figure was down to 6%.

Rule Britannia is still strong with the nightmare Tories. The UK is becoming a Failed State, better to look for scapegoats than dealing with real problems. Home Secretary Suella Braverman, herself of Indian descent, has been using Joseph Goebbels rhetoric to dehumanize migrants, they are a cancer on all that is good and British. The nightmare Tories are actually going ahead their plans to deport them to Rwanda.

 
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Don't agree Mandrill, India generated 20% of the world's economy when The East India Company conquered Bengal. By the time the British left in 1947, that figure was down to 6%.

Rule Britannia is still strong with the nightmare Tories. The UK is becoming a Failed State, better to look for scapegoats than dealing with real problems. Home Secretary Suella Braverman, herself of Indian descent, has been using Joseph Goebbels rhetoric to dehumanize migrants, they are a cancer on all that is good and British. The nightmare Tories are actually going ahead him plans to deport them to Rwanda.

Agree with most of that.

But the EIC conquered Bengal in 1750 in the pre industrial era and by 1950, most of the wealth and income was being generated by industrialized countries in the West. The British did not industrialize India, but they didn't have a duty to do so either.
 

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Agree with most of that.

But the EIC conquered Bengal in 1750 in the pre industrial era and by 1950, most of the wealth and income was being generated by industrialized countries in the West. The British did not industrialize India, but they didn't have a duty to do so either.
I'm working with a bunch of brits who were totally freaking out at the places they were staying at. They couldn't find out how to turn the heat off when you leave and were super worried.
That's the norm there now, turn off the heat when you leave, never leave it on for more then 4 hours at a time.
 

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I'm working with a bunch of brits who were totally freaking out at the places they were staying at. They couldn't find out how to turn the heat off when you leave and were super worried.
That's the norm there now, turn off the heat when you leave, never leave it on for more then 4 hours at a time.
That's common to all Europe right now in the post Ukraine War era.
 
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That's common to all Europe right now in the post Ukraine War era.
True, but they were saying that was the norm before the war started as well.

Just read this story about Reagan telling Iran not to release hostages so Carter wouldn't get elected, promising them a better deal.

 

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The better deal was the vicious Iran - Iraq War.

Liam Neeson told Ricky Gervais that he has AIDS. The DUP want to revive The Troubles.

 

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I don't envy Rishi Sunak's job, he's got fascists on both sides. The DUP wants a hard border, currently the Ulsters are in the population minority.

 

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Germany and Italy are best buds again, the relationship was strained by Merkel's austerity measures which gave German companies an unfair advantage over Italian rivals. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Prime Minister Meloni converse by phone on a regular basis.

What Chief Inspector Dreyfus said about Clouseau applies even more to David Cameron. By far the UK's worst Prime Minister since The Glorious Revolution, "if I had ten David Camerons I could destroy the universe".

 

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The cost of The Coronation is being kept from the British public, some suspect that it reached $180 million, UK tax-payers are footing most of it. It was not the ceremony itself which caused the budget to soar, it was the so-called nobility gorging themselves on expensive freebees. Monty Python gained fame by spoofing the British Class System, since David Cameron they've come back stronger than ever.

 

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Liz Truss has gone Kari Lake. The question remains, who was going to pay for 40% tax cut she bequeathed to the aristocracy?


For awhile Spain's economy was outperforming Italy's, the large British footprint was once an asset, now a liability. Italy's economic footprint within the EU is German and Scandinavian. I thought the age gap between Georgia Meloni and Sanna Marin would be wider, there's only an eight year gap.
 
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