Don Martin: The fall of Justin Trudeau has begun
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But, that's brilliant especially if you can add climate change as the cause of inflation and economic stagnation. They've already succeeded in attaching "sustainable " to "growth ".
I don't know if you noticed, but "frankfooters " are in charge in Canada and US, right now.
India won't be exporting grain this year because of a heat wave.
The entire southwest of the US is in drought.
From last year:
Climate-driven crop failures are driving up food prices: 3 stories you may have missed
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you must be joking
that is all he has
not an original thought to save his life
its all linked back to using anything to get socialism in through the back door
ridiculous illogical conclusions are what happens when you pervert science for political reasons
our complex, dynamic & chaotic climate system has always changed, and will continue to change independent of mankinds actions
most definitely independent of part per million changes in CO2
Racism is a social issue
It will not be stamped out by labelling others as racists
the mere fact the left tries to link a natural phenonium to a social issue should be clue 1 that they are peddling untruthful BS
Don't you have any intellectual curiosity to question things? Or do you just accept things you read and hear so long as they support your predetermined view? Judging by the name of the site, don't you think conservation.org might have a bias to hype climate change fears?
There was no global food production issue before COVID. Now with two years of COVID and the Ukraine war, we really can't take 2020-2022 as normal food production years. When we come out of this Ukraine crisis, we will have a better handle on where things are. This is all quantifiable. You don't need a liberal journalist to tell you what is going on.
I'll tell you one thing. Inflation tends to drive farmers to plant more acreage around the world. That's the beauty of price signals. You need to live through more of these cycles. One region is impacted by a drought cycle. Another one steps up production.
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If you can't spell it, don't use it.
Besides, only fools think that there is no anthropogenic climate change and we are only experiencing 'natural phenomena'.
Then again, some people would fail high school science yet still claim to more than Nobel winners.
38% decline in Canadian wheat last year from drought.
Drought caused wheat, canola and barley production to plummet in 2021: StatCan
Crop production over the past year took a nosedive largely due to extremely hot and dry weather conditions in the Prairies during the growing season, according a Statistics Canada report released on Friday.
The US?
Current Map | U.S. Drought Monitor
droughtmonitor.unl.edu
What about your hot sauce?
Can't you use your own intellectual curiosity to find out if this is normal or part of climate change?
The West just experienced an aspect of the climate crisis that scientists have warned of for years
Drought conditions persisted in the Southwest, where water is desperately needed to replenish the country's largest reservoirs relied on by tens of millions of people.
www.cnn.com
As I said, there was no drop in global food production before COVID. It's impossible to gauge where food production will normalize after the war.38% decline in Canadian wheat last year from drought.
Drought caused wheat, canola and barley production to plummet in 2021: StatCan
Crop production over the past year took a nosedive largely due to extremely hot and dry weather conditions in the Prairies during the growing season, according a Statistics Canada report released on Friday.www.ctvnews.ca
The US?
Current Map | U.S. Drought Monitor
What about your hot sauce?
Can't you use your own intellectual curiosity to find out if this is normal or part of climate change?
The West just experienced an aspect of the climate crisis that scientists have warned of for years
Drought conditions persisted in the Southwest, where water is desperately needed to replenish the country's largest reservoirs relied on by tens of millions of people.
American Southwest is a desert feeling the excruciating and detrimental impacts of tens of millions of people seeking sunshine every day and drawing on very limited water supplies. There are many parts of the U.S. with their traditional overabundance of rain.
While I think the planet is slowly warming, I can't take idealists who forsake nuclear power for phantasmic ideas of green renewables seriously.
Getting back to the point, price inflation is hitting every sector of the economy. To hold out sudden food price inflation as a symptom of climate change hitting agriculture is erroneous and manipulative analysis.
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Anyway in fairness, I would say people who read and parrot Fox News commentators repeatedly have basic intelligence. However, I would not necessarily call it astute or analytical.
It's the type of basic intelligence where one can comprehend what they are reading and parrot it back in the correct context. Although Frank has a bad habit of interjecting complete non sequiturs into a discussion. (Did I spell that correctly? Franks likes to point spelling errors in a debate.) I suspect Frank's non sequiturs are a form of his mild trolling. He's been on this everything is climate change kick for at least two years.
Anyway in fairness, I would say people who read and parrot Fox News commentators repeatedly have basic intelligence. However, I would not necessarily call it astute or analytical.
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Once again the cause of inflation is supply chain bottlenecks emerging as the global economy recovers from the pandemic, the war in Ukraine driving up prices for oil, wheat and fertilizer.
Canada can't control the prices of most internationally traded goods, dealing with these forces is tricky in any situation. The so called "printing of money" rhetoric is a Pierre Poilievre fantasy!!
CERB was an essential need for all Canadians and there is no direct effect on the Global inflation. Anyone buying this nonsense is totally brainwashed into the right wing dogma as none of those promoting it have come up with any alternative solutions except make the rich richer and let the low and middle incomes fall by the wayside!!
Again Canada's two North American trading partners, are The USA and Mexico. Their inflation rates are higher than Canada's. So there you go that the BOC must have done a better job in that respect. However, tell us what the "exact" Canadian inflation rate is as you seem to come up with the total BS that it is "much higher"!!
Pre-covid food production was riding increased global productivity and land usage.
72% of staple crops are grown in 5 countries, its more fragile then you would think.
The world was already close to food emergency before the Ukraine war.
Climate change has already lessened output by 21%.
Climate change cut global farming productivity 21% since 1960s
Despite important agricultural advancements to feed the world in the last 60 years, a new study shows that global farming productivity has fallen 21% since the 1960s - the equivalent of losing about seven years of farm productivity increases - all due to climate change.
www.sciencedaily.com
Crop Failures More likely in Warmer, Dryer World - Woodwell Climate
Models predict increasing crop failures in world's major breadbaskets over next three decades. Water availability will dictate resilience.
www.woodwellclimate.org
Printing excessive money is what causes inflation. Closing down the economy WHILE printing money is a recipe for a disaster. Closing down the just in time supply chain and then trying to reopen it has never been done before and produced shortages which the instant demand upon opening turned into more inflationary pressure. Simplest economics from the "old school ". BTW, the Canadian inflation rate is greater than the advertised by the government. It's in excess of 10% probably closer to 15% and going up.
Once again if you are too old to remember, the Covid-19 Pandemic caused the closure of economies around the Globe. If we operated business as usual during that time, it would have been the biggest disaster in the history of Canada. All governments arose to help their citizens who were in dire trouble, hence CERB in Canada. What consequently caused the inflation was the supply chain disruptions, food shortages from droughts, but the biggest impact was this oil price hikes due to the war in Ukraine as well as shortages from certain essential foods that added to the disruptions. Although, the price of oil is not as high as it was in 2008, yet the oil companies have hiked the prices at the pumps at record levels and hence the huge oil bonanza profits for these greedy corporations. But the biggest BS is the inflationary rate being at close to 15%. Please show us some proper links to justify that astronomical figure that you plucked out of your pocket. We know that inflation is based by the Consumer Price Index of a basket of goods that is consumed by a normal household. This is not what the Government decides and "advertises"!!
No, Covid-19 did not cause the shutdown, our governments did. I don't give a shit what the "official" government statistics say about inflation, I've been through this before. The market decides the rate, not the government bean counters and almost everything is up over 10% The canary in the coal mine is the secondary car market-used cars- that's up over 30%
Covid caused the shutdown, even in countries that didn't have government ordered shutdowns things shut down when people got sick.
The chip shortage is from China's shutdown from covid, yet you think its from the market?
Governments did as a result of the Covid-19 Pandemic that was Global. The infection and death rates were sky rocketing and that tied the Government's hands. Why did the Conservatives support the shut down and approve of the CERB and other budgets then to help out those in need? Were they complicit in the inflation?
Everything is up not as a result of "printing money" as the statistics will prove it to be so. Remember that the biggest outcry from the right wingers prior to Covid-19 was the budget and how the Government spending that supported stuff like the infrastructure and other services was going to affect their off springs futures. However, inflation was dropping resulting in the BOC reducing the interest rates to a record low level. Now as a result of the Covid-19 where the markets are affected by the supply chains, along with the droughts, food shortages, oil price hikes at the pumps due to Oil Corporation greeds, we know that this are the root causes of inflation. Please explain why in 2008 when the oil prices hit a record US$148 per barrel, the price a the pumps were just around 145 cents a barrel while presently at $110 per barrel yet we had to shell out close to 210 cents per litre of gas. If you take the 11 cents off the carbon tax that is still near 200 cents a litre. No explanation as to this discrepancy by any oil corporation CEOs!!
Oil then vs. now- higher transportation costs, higher refining costs- significantly higher, disruptions and shortages, especially of diesel, on the retail end, etc.
As for the rest- the governments decided to use the sledgehammer (shutdowns) to fight a severe flu that attacked seniors. So, they decided to go on a printing spree. Here you are regurgitating talking points of people who told you last spring that inflation was no threat and then lied to you again when they called it "transitory ", last summer . How many lies and spins before you wake up and begin thinking for yourself?
