Amnesty International: Israel Apartheid

[basketcase]

1) All settlements are illegal, as you have confirmed along with the UN and all legit legal opinions.
2) You are the one saying that the two state solution is the only one, which requires that land to be Palestine.
3) Ending apartheid is the only way forward to guarantee that all people have equal rights and equal rights to stay.




No, the term 'random Jew' is one you use. I say settlers acting as militants with the backing of the IDF are acting as 'terrorists', as you, B'tselem and I agree. The difference is that you push a trope that its not militant settlers doing these attacks, instead you use a trope and say its 'random Jews' as if it could be any Jewish person in Israel committing these types of crimes. I do hope you don't believe that.




I do support equal rights. You don't.
I back the Palestinian BDS movement, which you seem to think Palestinians 'detest'.
I have no idea why you think they detest their own movement.




There are now about 1500 pages of reports detailing Israeli apartheid sitting at the ICC and UN awaiting their word. The fact that there is one Palestinian politician who disagrees with the use of the term has nothing to do with the validity of their very well researched opinions.

Its clear you will do the South African plan of 'deny, deny, deny' since you have no grounds for debate any more.
Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem, Yesh Din, the UN and a very long list of Israeli politicians, not to mention 75% of Palestinians, say Israel is apartheid.

Canada should boycott apartheid.

Sad that you are so deep within your hatred you don't even take the time to read posts and simply jump to some other random bullshit.

I love the way you keep claiming you want equal rights while claiming Jews have no right to be in the West Bank and justifying attacks on them simply for being there.


And sorry but you can't support equal rights while ignoring what Palestinians want and saying Jews aren't allowed in some places. You also can't be taken seriously talking about rights while making excuses for Hamas, a racist, totalitarian group who is 100% clear they won't accept peace until the Jewish presence is eliminated.


p.s. Any time you actually want to take a look at the Apartheid Laws in South Africa, I'm happy to have a discussion.

 

[Frankfooter]

I love the way you keep claiming you want equal rights while claiming Jews have no right to be in the West Bank and justifying attacks on them simply for being there.

Straw man, followed by another straw man and then one more bonus straw man argument.
Its really quite sad that you feel you have to use such dishonest debating tactics.
Are you really that unable to discuss this honestly?

And sorry but you can't support equal rights while ignoring what Palestinians want and saying Jews aren't allowed in some places. You also can't be taken seriously talking about rights while making excuses for Hamas, a racist, totalitarian group who is 100% clear they won't accept peace until the Jewish presence is eliminated.

Your Islamaphobic rants about Palestinians get tiring, basketcase.
Hamas is no worse or better than the Israeli government. Both sides want to win and both commit war crimes you call 'terrorism'. The only difference is the scale, where Israel, as the nuclear armed occupying army typically kills more than 10x as many civilians. Oh, and apartheid, that's a difference. Actually, so is the ongoing settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing.

But that's best left to the ICC, ICJ and UN led sanctions.

p.s. Any time you actually want to take a look at the Apartheid Laws in South Africa, I'm happy to have a discussion.

Sure, I'd suggest we start on p44 of the Amnesty report.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

 

[basketcase]

Straw man

Again, you should rally look up what straman means

Your Islamaphobic rants about Palestinians get tiring, basketcase.

Asinine world you live in. You must be really upset living ion a country so Islamophobic that they say not only Hamas but several other Palestinian factions are designated terrorist entities.

Of course all your blather is simply because you know there is no way to defend the racism and genocidal goals of Hamas.

 

[basketcase]

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Sure, I'd suggest we start on p44 of the Amnesty report.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

So do you want to discuss actual Apartheid laws or not?

Under Apartheid, non-whites couldn't vote. In Israel, every citizen can vote and get elected including an Arab minister and an Arab party that is part of the governing coalition. An Arab was also just appointed to their Supreme court.
Under Apartheid, non-whites weren't allowed to use the same public facilities like parks as whites. The only thing close in Israel is they allow the WAQF to extremely limit non-Muslims from visiting the area of Temple Mount/Al Aqsa.
Under Apartheid, non-white land ownership was all but banned. In Israel, anyone (including foreigners like us) can buy land. There is a chunk of land owned by the private JNF which tends to limit Arabs to short term leases but that is not a government law.
Under Apartheid, sex or marriage between races was banned. The closest in Israel is that marriages need to fall under religious authority so you would need to find a Rabbi, priest, or Imam that was willing or you can do what many Israelis do and get married some place like Cyprus. The Israeli government recognizes foreign marriages.

Seems your concern (and Amnesty) have more to do with West Bank and Gaza Palestinians who don't want to be Israel no matter how much you demand they listen to western wisdom.

Even Israel's branch of Amnesty has come out against this because it's not accurate and distracts from progress.

 

[Frankfooter]

Asinine world you live in. You must be really upset living ion a country so Islamophobic that they say not only Hamas but several other Palestinian factions are designated terrorist entities.

Of course all your blather is simply because you know there is no way to defend the racism and genocidal goals of Hamas.

Israel's elected government includes a party recognized as terrorists by Canada, yet you have no problem backing them.
Nor do you have any problem supporting apartheid or defending war crimes like the settlements and the Great March of Return.

That's a form of Islamophobia, basketcase.
You refuse to say Palestinians are a people who deserve full human rights.
Islamophobia is a serious problem in this country.

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[basketcase]

Israel's elected government includes a party recognized as terrorists by Canada, ...

So instead of answering my question, you scream racism and revert to your stupidly dumb claims, pretending to be upset that one seat in Israel's parliament is held by a group with similar views to a terrorist group (that is banned by Israel as well) while being okay that Hamas is a terrorist group and Fatah having the same kind of distant terrorist ties as that extremely fringe Israeli party (or actually more because that fringe Israeli party doesn't pay salaries to convicted terrorists).

Sad that in your warped world, I'm racist for saying Hamas are racists and a designated terrorists entity. If I'm racist for criticizing Hamas and agreeing with Canada's government, how should your obsessive attacks on Israel be considered?



And not surprising that you are completely incapable of defending the BS Apartheid comparison.


Under Apartheid, non-whites couldn't vote. In Israel, every citizen can vote and get elected including an Arab minister and an Arab party that is part of the governing coalition. An Arab was also just appointed to their Supreme court.
Under Apartheid, non-whites weren't allowed to use the same public facilities like parks as whites. The only thing close in Israel is they allow the WAQF to extremely limit non-Muslims from visiting the area of Temple Mount/Al Aqsa.
Under Apartheid, non-white land ownership was all but banned. In Israel, anyone (including foreigners like us) can buy land. There is a chunk of land owned by the private JNF which tends to limit Arabs to short term leases but that is not a government law.
Under Apartheid, sex or marriage between races was banned. The closest in Israel is that marriages need to fall under religious authority so you would need to find a Rabbi, priest, or Imam that was willing or you can do what many Israelis do and get married some place like Cyprus. The Israeli government recognizes foreign marriages.

 

[Frankfooter]

So instead of answering my question, you scream racism and revert to your stupidly dumb claims, pretending to be upset that one seat in Israel's parliament is held by a group with similar views to a terrorist group (that is banned by Israel as well) while being okay that Hamas is a terrorist group and Fatah having the same kind of distant terrorist ties as that extremely fringe Israeli party (or actually more because that fringe Israeli party doesn't pay salaries to convicted terrorists).

Sad that in your warped world, I'm racist for saying Hamas are racists and a designated terrorists entity. If I'm racist for criticizing Hamas and agreeing with Canada's government, how should your obsessive attacks on Israel be considered?

Israel regularly kills 10x the number of civilians in acts that fit your definition of 'terrorism'.
Its only your Islamaphobia on display when you accuse Hamas of 'terrorism' while excusing Israeli acts of 'terrorism'.
You defended Israel killing 200 civilian protesters and injuring 13,000 more, acts of 'terrorism' on a far more massive and evil scale than anything by Hamas.

Your views of race are clearly on display through your support of acts that are clearly 'terrorism' when they are on a people you think lesser of.

And not surprising that you are completely incapable of defending the BS Apartheid comparison.

OMG, I must have missed replying to one of your posts....

Under Apartheid, non-whites couldn't vote. In Israel, every citizen can vote and get elected including an Arab minister and an Arab party that is part of the governing coalition. An Arab was also just appointed to their Supreme court.

Under Israeli rule there are 2+ million Palestinians who live as stateless refugees and cannot vote for the government that rules them through occupation and apartheid.

Under Apartheid, non-whites weren't allowed to use the same public facilities like parks as whites. The only thing close in Israel is they allow the WAQF to extremely limit non-Muslims from visiting the area of Temple Mount/Al Aqsa.

Israel includes apartheid roads, services, towns, buses and services in the West Bank. In Gaza, under Israeli rule, they live in a place the UN says is 'unliveable' in conditions worse than South Africa. Where the snipers on the walls shoot farmers if they get too close to the prison walls.

Under Apartheid, non-white land ownership was all but banned. In Israel, anyone (including foreigners like us) can buy land. There is a chunk of land owned by the private JNF which tends to limit Arabs to short term leases but that is not a government law.

Under Israeli rule Palestinians continue to be evicted from their homes, in Jerusalem, the West Bank and even in Gaza, where Israel regularly bombs and destroys homes and apartment buildings.
How many times has Israel destroyed that Bedouin village now, its over 100?

Under Apartheid, sex or marriage between races was banned. The closest in Israel is that marriages need to fall under religious authority so you would need to find a Rabbi, priest, or Imam that was willing or you

Palestinians cannot marry Israelis, nor can 'Israeli Arabs' marry Palestinians who live in the West Bank or Gaza, or live as refugees outside of Israel/Palestine.
In all your examples, Israel is far worse than South Africa.

 

[basketcase]

Israel regularly kills 10x the number of civilians in acts that fit your definition of 'terrorism'.
Its only your Islamaphobia on display when you accuse Hamas of 'terrorism' while excusing Israeli acts of 'terrorism'.
You defended Israel killing 200 civilian protesters and injuring 13,000 more, acts of 'terrorism' on a far more massive and evil scale than anything by Hamas.

Your views of race are clearly on display through your support of acts that are clearly 'terrorism' when they are on a people you think lesser of.




OMG, I must have missed replying to one of your posts....



Under Israeli rule there are 2+ million Palestinians who live as stateless refugees and cannot vote for the government that rules them through occupation and apartheid.



Israel includes apartheid roads, services, towns, buses and services in the West Bank. In Gaza, under Israeli rule, they live in a place the UN says is 'unliveable' in conditions worse than South Africa. Where the snipers on the walls shoot farmers if they get too close to the prison walls.




Under Israeli rule Palestinians continue to be evicted from their homes, in Jerusalem, the West Bank and even in Gaza, where Israel regularly bombs and destroys homes and apartment buildings.
How many times has Israel destroyed that Bedouin village now, its over 100?




Palestinians cannot marry Israelis, nor can 'Israeli Arabs' marry Palestinians who live in the West Bank or Gaza, or live as refugees outside of Israel/Palestine.
In all your examples, Israel is far worse than South Africa.

Wow. That's a lot of BS attempts to try and make links while crying racism to defend the racism of Hamas. (only one of us has continually criticized terrorism from both sides)

And thank you for admitting that there is no apartheid in Israel as your weak attempts are about the West Bank. Systemic discrimination is not the same thing as Apartheid.

But let's rip apart those claims too.

1) Palestinians in the West Bank can (allegedly) vote in Palestinian elections. They do not want to be Israeli and don't want to vote in Israeli elections no matter how much you want to impose that on them.
2) Israeli rule in the West Bank applies to ALL ISRAELIS, regardless of race. The difference there is based on citizenship. The Apartheid in the West Bank ruled by the PA is clear though as they outright ban Israeli Jews (and Jews in general) but freely allow Israeli Arabs to live, work, and own property there. There are definitely differences in the way Israeli citizens are treated but unlike in South Africa the vast majority of Palestinians don't want to be part of Israel the way that the ANC and others in South Africa wanted to be South African citizens.
3) Yes, people who build land illegally can have their property removed. This applies to many settlements that Israel has torn down as well. You just don't like that Israelis who can prove legal ownership of family property before Jews were expelled by Jordan's army can go to court to regain that property (while at the same time demanding that exact thing for Palestinians who fled property in Israel).
4) Palestinians are 100% free to marry Israelis. What they can't do is automatically gain Israeli citizenship. And in case you want to drop your ideological blinders, Canada doesn't automatically give citizenship to spouses either.


And did you even bother to read what Apartheid laws were like before you started your frothing?


p.s. I love the way you cry it's racism to identify Hamas as terrorists while at the same time continually calling Israel terrorists. And Canada only considers one of the two to be terrorists.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wow. That's a lot of BS attempts to try and make links while crying racism to defend the racism of Hamas. (only one of us has continually criticized terrorism from both sides)

Prove you criticize both sides.
Tell me you don't support Israel's use of snipers on civilian protesters during the Great March of Return.

And thank you for admitting that there is no apartheid in Israel as your weak attempts are about the West Bank. Systemic discrimination is not the same thing as Apartheid.

Systematic discrimination by race/religion is apartheid.
Try again.

But let's rip apart those claims too.

1) Palestinians in the West Bank can (allegedly) vote in Palestinian elections. They do not want to be Israeli and don't want to vote in Israeli elections no matter how much you want to impose that on them.

Alleged votes won't cut it. Palestinians in the West Bank cannot voted for the government that rules them by apartheid military occupation.
That is apartheid.
P108 Amnesty report.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

2) Israeli rule in the West Bank applies to ALL ISRAELIS, regardless of race. The difference there is based on citizenship. The Apartheid in the West Bank ruled by the PA is clear though as they outright ban Israeli Jews (and Jews in general) but freely allow Israeli Arabs to live, work, and own property there. There are definitely differences in the way Israeli citizens are treated but unlike in South Africa the vast majority of Palestinians don't want to be part of Israel the way that the ANC and others in South Africa wanted to be South African citizens.

Yes, Israel refuses to give Palestinians citizenship or basic human rights, so all Palestinians in the West Bank are 'stateless refugees' and not 'Israelis'.
That is apartheid.
P82 Amnesty report

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

3) Yes, people who build land illegally can have their property removed. This applies to many settlements that Israel has torn down as well. You just don't like that Israelis who can prove legal ownership of family property before Jews were expelled by Jordan's army can go to court to regain that property (while at the same time demanding that exact thing for Palestinians who fled property in Israel).

Israel uses apartheid laws, as you just confirmed, to claim by 'law' that Palestinians don't own their own family property.
p113-217 Amnesty report.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

4) Palestinians are 100% free to marry Israelis. What they can't do is automatically gain Israeli citizenship. And in case you want to drop your ideological blinders, Canada doesn't automatically give citizenship to spouses either.

You confirmed my point, Palestinians can't marry Palestinians in different districts under Israeli rule.
That's apartheid.
P98 Amnesty

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

And did you even bother to read what Apartheid laws were like before you started your frothing?

You need to read the Amnesty report and stop posting such obvious garbage.
This was weaker than a larue post.
If this is Israel's defence at the UN and ICC, good luck.

 

[danmand]

I think most people will put more trust in Amnesty International than on somebody who posts anonymously on an escort review board.

 

[basketcase]

Prove you criticize both sides.
...

I have plenty of posting history criticizing terrorism whether from Israelis or Palestinians.

Amnesty's claims are that Israel is implementing Apartheid in Israel, Gaza, West Bank, and outside of Israel.

Israel. I listed what Apartheid laws actually were. there is nothing in Israel even remotely comparable. And your attempts are just stupid attempts at demonization.

Gaza. There is not a single Israeli in Gaza and it is entirely under control of Hamas. Israel law applies in absolutely no way there. Israel would be 100% within international law to treat Gaza as the hostile entity it is and completely seal it's own border. Israel realizes that would result in massive suffering of people so even though Gaza is an enemy territory, it continues to supply aid, allow trade, and allows people to regularly enter Israel.

Rest of the world. Absolute bullshit. Accusing Israel of Apartheid because Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and others have kept refugees and generations of their descendants locked in camps and refuse to allow them any option of assimilation is plain dumb. Just another case of Westerners refusing to hold Arabs accountable for their actions and only laying blame on slightly more white people in Israel.

West Bank. There is a lot more complication here but the largest differences are this conflict is the direct result of war and that the people in South Africa wanted to be citizens while the vast majority of Palestinians don't want to be Israeli.

 

[basketcase]

I think most people will put more trust in Amnesty International than on somebody who posts anonymously on an escort review board.

More people will put their trust in the democratic countries like the UK, US, Canada, and Germany who have rejected the comparison.

But you would rather listen to what Putin has to say than what the free press reports anyways so what do you know?

 

[danmand]

More people will put their trust in the democratic countries like the UK, US, Canada, and Germany who have rejected the comparison.

But you would rather listen to what Putin has to say than what the free press reports anyways so what do you know?

You are just trolling again.

 

[Frankfooter]

I have plenty of posting history criticizing terrorism whether from Israelis or Palestinians.

You refuse to criticize Israel for using snipers on civilian protesters in Gaza during the Great March of Return.
You refused to criticize Israel for targeting schools, hospitals, media and apartment buildings last summer.
That was state terrorism, the targeting of civilians you claim you are against.

Amnesty's claims are that Israel is implementing Apartheid in Israel, Gaza, West Bank, and outside of Israel.

Same as the UN, B'tselem and Yesh Din.

Israel. I listed what Apartheid laws actually were. there is nothing in Israel even remotely comparable. And your attempts are just stupid attempts at demonization.

There is no Palestine, its all ruled by Israel
Under Israeli rule in the West Bank its apartheid.
P58 Amnesty.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

Gaza. There is not a single Israeli in Gaza and it is entirely under control of Hamas. Israel law applies in absolutely no way there. Israel would be 100% within international law to treat Gaza as the hostile entity it is and completely seal it's own border. Israel realizes that would result in massive suffering of people so even though Gaza is an enemy territory, it continues to supply aid, allow trade, and allows people to regularly enter Israel.

Bullshit.
Gaza is under Israeli military occupation and ruled through an incredibly horrid form of apartheid.
Israel controls the water, energy, 'calories', construction materials, phones, internet and health supplies.
The UN says its 'unliveable'.
P78 Amnesty

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

Rest of the world. Absolute bullshit. Accusing Israel of Apartheid because Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and others have kept refugees and generations of their descendants locked in camps and refuse to allow them any option of assimilation is plain dumb. Just another case of Westerners refusing to hold Arabs accountable for their actions and only laying blame on slightly more white people in Israel.

Israel refuses to honour UN resolutions calling for the Right of Return to be honoured and has done so for half a century.
That's apartheid.
P82 Amnesty

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

West Bank. There is a lot more complication here but the largest differences are this conflict is the direct result of war and that the people in South Africa wanted to be citizens while the vast majority of Palestinians don't want to be Israeli.

Israel rules the West Bank through apartheid military occupation.
Your claims about what Palestinian's want are like Putin telling Ukrainians what the want.
P105 Amnesty

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/MDE1551412022ENGLISH.pdf

Israel needs to end apartheid and institute equal rights for all.

I am. Peaceful negotiation that respects the rights of all people there.

They need to respect the rights of all people there, as you say.

 

[basketcase]

You refuse to...

Sorry but Gaza is not occupied under any sane definition and the Arab states are responsible for their persecution of Palestinian refugees and their descendant. UN statements are 100% clear that any return of refugees would be part of a peace process which hasn't happened and you clearly oppose (also worth mentioning that polls of refugees and their descendants show very few actually want to go to Israel).

Israel is not apartheid, at least in any world where you actually examine what Apartheid was. Words haver meanings. if you were to say that Israel has systemic discrimination that disadvantages Arabs then I'd agree with you. As Amnesty in Israel and Actual Arab Israeli leaders have said, the BS Apartheid claims are counterproductive.

They need to respect the rights of all people there, as you say.

You missed the part about NEGOTIATION but that's not surprising because you keep demanding Israel unilaterally fore Palestinians to become Israelis against their will.

 

[Frankfooter]

Sorry but Gaza is not occupied under any sane definition and the Arab states are responsible for their persecution of Palestinian refugees and their descendant. UN statements are 100% clear that any return of refugees would be part of a peace process which hasn't happened and you clearly oppose (also worth mentioning that polls of refugees and their descendants show very few actually want to go to Israel).

Israel is not apartheid, at least in any world where you actually examine what Apartheid was. Words haver meanings. if you were to say that Israel has systemic discrimination that disadvantages Arabs then I'd agree with you. As Amnesty in Israel and Actual Arab Israeli leaders have said, the BS Apartheid claims are counterproductive.


You missed the part about NEGOTIATION but that's not surprising because you keep demanding Israel unilaterally fore Palestinians to become Israelis against their will.

Gaza is occupied.
Israel has to honour UN SC resolutions calling for the rightful return of refugees.
Israel is apartheid.

Negotiations have been dead since 2014.
Only the occupying army can decide when the occupation ends, not those under occupation and apartheid.

Apartheid

The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...

www.btselem.org

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...

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Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...

www.amnesty.org

 

[basketcase]

Gaza is occupied.
...

Just like with Apartheid, you seem to enjoy making up new definitions to common words.

Israel and Egypt control their borders. Because Gaza is ruled by a terrorist group openly working to eliminate the Jewish presence, Israel is careful about what they let in. If the restrictions were based on race, they'd apply to both West Bank and Israeli Arabs. Instead they are specifically targeted by a region that is effectively at war with them.


And as I said repeatedly, if you were really for peace and human rights, you'd be pushing both sides back to the negotiation table instead of trying to force Israel into forcing Palestinians to become Israeli against their will.


p.s. spamming inaccurate opinions from other people you agree with doesn't help win an argument against facts and reality, especially when you routinely ignore those same groups when they criticize your friends in hamas.

 

[Frankfooter]

Just like with Apartheid, you seem to enjoy making up new definitions to common words.
Israel and Egypt control their borders. Because Gaza is ruled by a terrorist group openly working to eliminate the Jewish presence, Israel is careful about what they let in. If the restrictions were based on race, they'd apply to both West Bank and Israeli Arabs. Instead they are specifically targeted by a region that is effectively at war with them.

Gaza is occupied by Israel.
Amnesty:
Despite the 2005 “disengagement”, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip continue to face Israeli repression for their popular resistance against the occupation. This has included excessive and often lethal force during protests near the fence that separates Gaza from Israel.

And as I said repeatedly, if you were really for peace and human rights, you'd be pushing both sides back to the negotiation table instead of trying to force Israel into forcing Palestinians to become Israeli against their will.

Israel is the occupying force, pretending its up to the victims of the occupation is ridiculous.

p.s. spamming inaccurate opinions from other people you agree with doesn't help win an argument against facts and reality,

Calling Amnesty, B'tselem, HRW, the UN and Yesh Din 'other people you agree with' is ridiculous.
Deal with the facts, read the reports and stop spouting nonsense.

And stop acting like an Islamaphobic hypocrite.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498355494229970948

 

[basketcase]

Gaza is occupied by Israel.
Amnesty:
...

Another place where Amnesty's claims are 100% invalid.

Gaza is run by Hamas under Hamas laws with no Israeli input on what happens. It is fully independent. Israel and Egypt control their borders as is entitled by any independent state.




And I see you are still crying racism because I dare criticize Hamas for their racism and use of terror. If I'm racist for agreeing with Canada, then your obsessive criticism of Israel makes you in the elite of anti-semites.

 

[Frankfooter]

Another place where Amnesty's claims are 100% invalid.

Gaza is run by Hamas under Hamas laws with no Israeli input on what happens.

And I'm sure you also think the Warsaw Ghetto was a free and independent country.

Analyst: Gaza becomes the biggest open-air prison on earth - CNN Video

Despite the US announcement to provide immediate disaster assistance to Gaza, the future for many civilians living in Gaza -- which has been under an Israeli-Egyptian blockade since 2007 -- is bleak with little chance to step foot outside the area. CNN's Ben Wedeman reports.

www.cnn.com

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Gaza: The world’s largest open-air prison

More than 50 years of occupation and 10 years of blockade have made the lives of 1.9 million Palestinians living inside the Gaza Strip unbearable. That is why they now are protesting and risking th...

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The United Nations was right – Gaza is unlivable | Opinion | Opinion

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