Turkey considering military ties with Russia as NATO shows unwillingness to cooperate

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Turkey considering military ties with Russia as NATO shows unwillingness to cooperate – Ankara


Published time: 18 Aug, 2016 14:03

Edited time: 18 Aug, 2016 20:55

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Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu has lashed out at NATO, saying the alliance is not fully cooperating with Ankara. In an interview with Sputnik, he hinted that Turkey would consider military cooperation with Russia.


Cavusoglu says that Ankara has become alarmed at the lack of willingness shown by NATO to cooperate with Turkey, which is a member of the alliance.

"It seems to us that NATO members behave in an evasive fashion on issues such as the exchange of technology and joint investments. Turkey intends to develop its own defense industry and strengthen its defense system,” he said in an interview with Sputnik.


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“In this sense, if Russia were to treat this with interest, we are ready to consider the possibility of cooperation in this sector," Cavusoglu said when asked about the possibility of working with Russia in the defense sphere.

It is Cavusoglu’s strongest rebuke of NATO to date. In an interview with the Anadolu news agency on August 10, he said that Turkey and Russia would look to establish a joint military, intelligence, and diplomatic mechanism, while adding that relations with NATO were not as satisfactory as he would have wished.

“Turkey wanted to cooperate with NATO members up to this point,” he said. “But the results we got did not satisfy us. Therefore, it is natural to look for other options. But we don’t see this as a move against NATO,” he told Anadolu.

Meanwhile, a week ago, the Turkish ambassador to Russia, Umit Yardim, said NATO has no right to dictate foreign policy to Ankara.

“In no way can NATO limit our contacts with other countries... It means NATO has no right to dictate its terms and tell us who we should or should not meet and communicate with,” Yardim said on August 11, as cited by RIA Novosti.

The warming of relations between Turkey and Russia, which were previously at a low after a Turkish warplane shot down a Russian warplane over Syria in November, has led to apprehension in the West.


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Cavusoglu also previously pointed out that there is growing resentment in Turkey due to a perception that the EU and US have only been giving mild support to Ankara in the wake of the attempted coup against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on July 15.

Turkey has been incensed by the US’ refusal to hand over cleric Fethullah Gulen, who Ankara believes organized the attempted coup.

The Turkish government wants Gulen, who lives in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania, to be extradited to face trial at home, but Washington has repeatedly refused. The US says it needs clear evidence that there was a link between Gulen and the attempted coup before it will consider complying with Turkey’s request.

Speaking to Sputnik, Cavusoglu accused the West of treating Turkey and Russia like “second class countries” simply because they did not see eye-to-eye.

"They consider Russia and Turkey to be second class countries, and they are outraged that these second class countries dare to criticize them… Therefore, faced with the straightforwardness and resilience of Erdogan and [President Vladimir] Putin, they feel very worried and anxious," Cavusoglu said.

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Cavusoglu’s criticism was not restricted to NATO, as he launched a broadside towards the West, saying it was largely responsible for the crisis in Ukraine.

“Look at what has happened in Ukraine,” he told Sputnik. “They were always threatening the country and forcing it to make a choice between them and Russia. They were saying, ‘you will either be with us or with Russia.’ This course of action is futile. What is happening in Ukraine is a reflection of the main problems in the region.”


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In contrast, the Turkish diplomat says that Ankara wants peace around the Black Sea region and does not want it to become an epicenter for tension. He called on all parties to try and find a peaceful resolution and said there needed to be greater dialogue between Russia and NATO.

“There should be no threats emerging in the region for anyone, for Turkey, for Russia or for anyone else,” Cavusoglu said.

According to the minister, the need for dialogue with Russia was apparent at the last NATO summit. "In my opinion, all existing issues should be overcome through establishing dialogue," he added.

The Turkish foreign minister pointed out that Turkey was the only member of NATO not to champion the introduction of sanctions against Russia, while he added that attempts by the West to frighten Moscow by the introduction of punitive measures had failed.

He noted how the West tried to humble Russia during its hosting of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi by constantly bringing up the same topic concerning the rights of sexual minorities.

“You cannot turn around a relationship with such a huge and great power like Russia just because of one question,” he said, adding that when a relationship is reduced to such a low level, “nothing constructive can come of it.”

The rapprochement between Turkey and Russia launches a “new dynamic” not only in relations between Ankara and Moscow, but also in the whole Middle Eastern region, Michael Maloof, a former Pentagon official, told RT.

“I think Turkish President Erdogan, basically, has given up on NATO and even the EU and is pivoting more towards the East,” he said.

“What’s evolving here is that Russia seeks Turkey’s assistance in containing and controlling the Sunni Muslims, the jihadi Sunnis in Syria, but also becoming a regional influence in that part of the world,” the former Pentagon official added.

Maloof believes that dialogue with Russia may open doors for Turkey to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and closer ties with China, which is now getting involved into the settlement of the Syrian conflict.
 
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danmand

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Sleeping with the devil. Ask Cuba how sleeping with the devil turned out.
Cuba has done phenomenally well for a poor Caribbean island. Compare with Haiti which has been "guided" by the Americans.
 

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You are delusional.
Says somebody who posted:
"I wonder how long Trump has been in bed with Putin. Maybe well before 2009. From Putin's perspective he may have been grooming Trump since the 2008 election."

LOL
 

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This is bizarre. So both Turkey and Iran are cozying up to Russia?
I think Turkey is doing it because they're blackmailing the US and want Gullen. Turkey is turning more into a fascist country every day.
 

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Says somebody who posted:
"I wonder how long Trump has been in bed with Putin. Maybe well before 2009. From Putin's perspective he may have been grooming Trump since the 2008 election."

LOL
Trump's daughter is actually cavorting with the Putin's.

Comparing Haiti with Cuba and pretending Haiti's problems are the fault of allying with America is in fact delusional.
 

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I think Turkey is doing it because they're blackmailing the US and want Gullen. Turkey is turning more into a fascist country every day.
Three dictatorships (Turkey, Russia and Iran) in bed together. We all know what happened when Hitler and Stalin were in bed together.
 

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Russian drill calls for ‘NATO’ soldiers ‘to lay down arms, stop being pawns’
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160818/1474725307.html

If NATO tries to invade Russia, this is what they will hear...

“NATO soldiers! You are being lied to! You are not peacekeepers! Lay down your arms, Your treacherous attack is disturbing a peaceful country. You will suffer retribution and the anger of a people who have never suffered defeat in any war. Drop your weapons and stop being pawns for your leaders"
 

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There have been numerous calls to get the nuclear weapons out of Turkey because of it's instability and rapid move towards closer a relationship with Russia.

Right now everything is falling towards Putin re-establishing the old CCCP - something he told Germany's PM he wanted to do. He has put teeth back in in the bear's mouth by seizing Crimea and splitting the Ukraine. He is putting aside Turkey shooting down their jet and I wouldn't doubt aiding the Turkish revolt and tipping of the Turkish PM that the revolt was happening under US involvement. The backlash has been severe and the US not sending back the cleric is the scenario Putin predicted.

NATO has been shaken both by Turkey's new ties to Russia and the statements of Putin's admirer Trump. The suggestion that US will not involve themselves with Europe's security woes leaves the nations isolated with the hungry Russian bear on it's boarders. Internationally - everyone equates Trump with a buffoon - their polite yet cool comments about dealing with him at the last World Economic Conference was clear. Russia's moves into Syria, Iran have again been aided by Putin ally Trump's hate campaign on Muslims.

Yes, Danmand - it is ironic you cannot see the Putin / Trump connection in your man love Trump but it just gets thicker and thicker. Trump is to Putin as Chris Christie was to Trump. Look to Putin to generate more e-mails, make up additional stories to get Trump elected. The US will not be effective with an incompetent self absorbed leader at the helm.

To see Putin's military viewpoint of putting Trump in as president .. imagine you are in a WW-I bi-plane in an air to air conflict with the latest F-22 Raptor jet. Sounds like suicide ? Now imagine someone putting an untrained Chimpanzee in the cockpit of that F-22 Raptor ... seems the odds have definitely shift away from the superior jet.

Putin needs to neutralise the most powerful nation in the world - make the commander in chief a buffoon who doesn't even know what the nuclear triad is while he isolates neighbouring nations as well as allies.

If you equate world domination to a chess board - Putin has already taken many pieces and is close to knocking out the opponent's king. Turkey is another move, Iran yet another, Syria yet another .. and if Putin's Trump efforts pay off - the opponent's king would start shooting his own pieces. Sad that Trump supporters can't see anything beyond the racist rhetoric.
 

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Trump's daughter is actually cavorting with the Putin's.

Comparing Haiti with Cuba and pretending Haiti's problems are the fault of allying with America is in fact delusional.
She is also friends with Chelsea Clinton. Does that mean Trump is a Democrat Manchurian to help a weak Hillary win?

Yer hilarious.
 

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Trump's daughter is actually cavorting with the Putin's.

Comparing Haiti with Cuba and pretending Haiti's problems are the fault of allying with America is in fact delusional.
Haiti has been an ally of the US. LOL
Trump has been controlled by Putin since 2008. LOL

You have long ago lost any connection to reality.

It is imminently reasonable to compare Cuba with Haiti. Two poor Caribbean island nations. One run by a socialist government, the other by a capitalistic government.

But you are probably an admirer of Papa Doc and Baby Doc.
 

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They are both second class nations (in fact that could be a bit generous). So no EU membership for Turkey then, I would expect a huge sigh of relief in pasty white Europe.

Perhaps Putin respects the purge going on in Turkey.
 

danmand

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They are both second class nations (in fact that could be a bit generous). So no EU membership for Turkey then, I would expect a huge sigh of relief in pasty white Europe.

Perhaps Putin respects the purge going on in Turkey.
Turkish gastworkers have arrived in Germany for 50 years, and many have not returned to Turkey. Today, around 2.5 million people with a Turkish background live in Germany, meaning either they or their parents were born in Turkey.
 

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Haiti has been an ally of the US. LOL
Trump has been controlled by Putin since 2008. LOL

You have long ago lost any connection to reality.

It is imminently reasonable to compare Cuba with Haiti. Two poor Caribbean island nations. One run by a socialist government, the other by a capitalistic government.

But you are probably an admirer of Papa Doc and Baby Doc.
Haiti's problems have nothing to do with the US, that's just shrill and ignorant.

Trump's daughter indeed is close personal friends with Putin's significant other. It's a close and intimate connection.
 

danmand

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Haiti's problems have nothing to do with the US, that's just shrill and ignorant.
No, what is shrill and arrogant is that Haiti is doing much better than Cuba. The opposite is true. Papa Doc being your idol notwithstanding.

Trump's daughter indeed is close personal friends with Putin's significant other. It's a close and intimate connection.
You have no idea of Putins love life, except some crazy rumour floated by the Clinton campaign. Here is what you wrote:

"I wonder how long Trump has been in bed with Putin. Maybe well before 2009. From Putin's perspective he may have been grooming Trump since the 2008 election."


You have simply lost your connection with reality a long time ago. That is a fact obvious from your postings here on Terb. You may want to seek some help with your mental state.
 

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I think Turkey is doing it because they're blackmailing the US and want Gullen. Turkey is turning more into a fascist country every day.
I don't know how much of a factor Gullen is. I think Turkey is happy to have him at large as the boogeyman. But yes, this is merely political gamesmanship to pressure the EU.
 
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