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Bibi puts poison pill in negotiations.... no deal possible now.

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Abbas & PA rejects recognition of Israel as Jewish state. ...
Nice of you to blame Palestinian rejection on Israel. Of course since your OP in this thread wasn't true either, it's not surprising.



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Seems Israelis cant get the message they are not wanted on other peoples' land.
You are a piece of scum in blaming the civilian victims for the terror attacks they are subjected to.
 

Lovehobby

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Nice of you to blame Palestinian rejection on Israel. Of course since your OP in this thread wasn't true either, it's not surprising.

They are foreign invaders. They have no right to be there.



You are a piece of scum in blaming the civilian victims for the terror attacks they are subjected to.
They are invading settlers like Boers in SA. They have no right to be thrte. They put themselves in harms way.
 

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They are invading settlers like Boers in SA. They have no right to be thrte. They put themselves in harms way.
Please campaign publicly for the Palestinian cause, and say these sorts of things loudly. Let everyone know that anyone who supports the Palestinians believes that war crime, atrocity, and terrorism are acceptable methods.

You are a credit to the Zionist cause.
 

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Bibi's demands are nothing but a poison pill to destroy peace talks. There is no need to demand recognition of Jewish state except to derail discussions.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Kerry-says-Netanyahu-wrong-to-insist-Palestinians-recognize-Israel-as-Jewish-state-345341
Israel is a Jewish state. Saying it is just saying the truth, like saying Egypt is a Muslim state, or that the Pope is Catholic.

It is just reality and it is pathetic that Abbas won't just acknowledge it.

It means he harbors dreams of destroying Israel and making it an Islamic state.
 

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Israel is a Jewish state. Saying it is just saying the truth, like saying Egypt is a Muslim state, or that the Pope is Catholic.

It is just reality and it is pathetic that Abbas won't just acknowledge it.

It means he harbors dreams of destroying Israel and making it an Islamic state.
But how can it be a Jewish state when more than 20% of its population is not Jewish? That doesn't make any sense.
 

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But how can it be a Jewish state when more than 20% of its population is not Jewish? That doesn't make any sense.
Same way Malaysia is an Islamic state even though 40 percent of the population is not Muslim.

However you don't have the mental capacity for understanding, so don't try. You already showed us how stupid you are by failing to grasp that Egypt and Israel remained at war for thirty years until they signed a peace deal. That concept was also too much for your limited intelligence.
 

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Same way Malaysia is an Islamic state even though 40 percent of the population is not Muslim.

However you don't have the mental capacity for understanding, so don't try. You already showed us how stupid you are by failing to grasp that Egypt and Israel remained at war for thirty years until they signed a peace deal. That concept was also too much for your limited intelligence.
No, you've got it wrong again. Malaysia is not an Islamic state but Islam is the state religion. Israel, on the other hand, specifically declares itself a Jewish state. Further, Malaysia does not hand out automatic citizenship to any Muslim. Malaysia has not declared itself the homeland of the Muslim people. Malaysia has not seized the property and land of hundreds of thousands of people of other faiths and given them to Muslims. Malaysia does not have millions of ethnically cleansed refugees of other faiths who wish to return to their homes in Malaysia.

So, try again. Get a better comparison.
 
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There you go again, justifying terrorist attacks on civilians. Don't pretend you aren't, we all know recognize victim blaming when we see it.
They do not belong where they are so being shot at is their own fault.
 

Lovehobby

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Israel is a Jewish state. Saying it is just saying the truth, like saying Egypt is a Muslim state, or that the Pope is Catholic.

It is just reality and it is pathetic that Abbas won't just acknowledge it.

It means he harbors dreams of destroying Israel and making it an Islamic state.
It is a very recent demand dreamed up by Bibi to scuttle the peace talks on purpose. It implies Abbas give up the right of return for Arabs that were ethnically cleansed which the PA will never do. Ipso Facto a deal breaker inserted to kill peace.

Kerry even above outlines why in international law it is totally unnecessary.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-...nians-recognize-Israel-as-Jewish-state-345341

I guess if you drink the Kool Aid and decide to defend Israel "right or wrong" you fall into these traps every time.
 

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It is a very recent demand dreamed up by Bibi to scuttle the peace talks on purpose. It implies Abbas give up the right of return for Arabs that were ethnically cleansed which the PA will never do. Ipso Facto a deal breaker inserted to kill peace.

Kerry even above outlines why in international law it is totally unnecessary.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Kerry-says-Netanyahu-wrong-to-insist-Palestinians-recognize-Israel-as-Jewish-state-345341

I guess if you drink the Kool Aid and decide to defend Israel "right or wrong" you fall into these traps every time.
Necessary or unnecessary, it is just stating the obvious.

And Abbas has to give up on the idea that Israel will be flooded by the descendants of Arab refugees. It isn't going to happen, and if he insists on THAT, then it is a deal breaker. Better for Israel to fight any campaign the Palestinians may launch, military or otherwise, than to commit suicide.

If he isn't planning on flooding Israel with mass Arab immigration, then there should be no obstacle to recognizing the obvious fact that Israel is a Jewish state.
 
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