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Does legality of SPs change the balance of power in society?

kkelso

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One of the companies I work with has recently started a big push into Canada, having been U.S. only for most of their existence. We've had many formal and informal discussions lately on the differences in Canadian society. Some of this has centered around the relative legality of drugs and prostitution.

In the vast majority of the U.S. the hobby is severely curtailed by law enforcement, so much so that the average American male doesn't partake due to fear, high expense (poor value), and massive inconvenience. Consequently those horny males have few options but to put up with all of the enormous crap necessary to get laid by a civilian. This dynamic places young women in a position of great emotional and material power over men. Such is life.

I'm only a sample of one, but many of the males I have met casually and professionally in Canada admit to seeing SPs of some type, and i would assume many more partake without disclosing it. It is very convenient to do so, the legal risk is absurdly low, and the social stigma attached is far less than south of the border. By simple (and possibly flawed) logic it would seem that this would make it easier for Canadian males to say "f*ck it, I'm not taking this crap anymore just to get laid, I'll just go to an SP". But I don't see this.

In general the average Canadian male is less assertive and more submissive in relationships than the corresponding U.S. male - or so say my many Canadian female acquaintances with great regularity. Maybe that's just what they say.

For a long time I have been of the opinion that the availability of SPs legally empowers women financially and socially by giving them greater control over their destinies, but does lessen their power as a group romantically. In other words, if a guy can get sex easily elsewhere a woman needs to have more to offer than sex to attract and retain a mate.

Again, as a sample of one this has certainly been the case with me personally. It's much tougher for a woman to string me out and twist me when I can pick up the phone and have mind-blowing, head-clearing sex with a hot lady of my choice.


Does a freely available SP base alter the male<->female power dynamic?


KK
 

Butler1000

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Hmmmm......
Had to think about this one. I'm not sure that it does. Perhaps when the guys are younger and just looking to get laid yes. Or older and divorced.
I'm pretty fortunate with my SO. We don't have any of these power dynamics in our relationship. Its very much a partnership. When sex becomes about reward in a relationship that's when the relationship is doomed. Intimacy is very much a part of a healthy relationship. Its something both parties should want. If one doesn't, or uses it as a weapon then they place a value on it. Which means that it is reduced to a commodity. Perhaps we need to qualify the act between too things. Having sex, and making love( and yes I believe there is a difference). I'm happy to pay occasionally for sex, but you can't pay for the latter. Only the illusion of it.
Believe it or not, but men also crave the intimacy, if we didn't, GFE wouldn't exist. Its why we get married, make the commitment. Untimately it only changes the dynamic when the intimacy is lost.
 

Anynym

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I would suggest that there are other factors in the dynamic which dominate the full evaluation.

For example, in Canada we have been taught that by Liberals for decades that our freedom is only granted by the whim of the State, and that we do not have an inherent Right to protect ourselves except as the State allows. Social norms are a strong force to mold the behaviour of the individual.

In the US the model is much more centered around the individual: your rights exist before the State curtails them. Social norms exist, but there are many more people who chose their behaviour independent of those norms, expecially if they have the muscle power to defend against any "attack".

This difference tends to produce a much more independent-minded individual in the US - and at the fringes many more people who do what society may consider to be illegal or immoral.
 

Azprint

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No. Seeing an SP is still being looked down upon by society here in Canada.

Personally, however, yes. I am done putting up with crap and being a door mat for the women just to get pussy. And it actually had a healthy effect on my dating life, I just laugh at bitches who think they have gold between their legs, and just go with women who respect me for who I am and look for a companionship on equal grounds.
 

oldjones

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Tie the outlawing of all but married sex with the sacred right to guns and you're getting somewhere. Adding in the historical ingredients of slavery and genocide and you have something like the ingredient list for the bad side of the American National Character—that outlaw's selfish push for personal power and gain irrespective of any wider shared interest.

But just as they should never forget those traits and and always be working to balance them, so we should always remember what they gave the world in the way of examples of liberty, openness and opportunity for all.

The fact that SP's are available in Canada has little or nothing to do with any male-female power dynamic in society. Only the unevolved would imagine such a gender-based question was anything but an archaic holdover. That in this one instance at least, we gave up trying to outlaw private conduct we cannot stop has everything to do with the power dynamic we hope is universal in Canadian society.
 

yeahyeahyeah

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For a long time I have been of the opinion that the availability of SPs legally empowers women financially and socially by giving them greater control over their destinies, but does lessen their power as a group romantically. In other words, if a guy can get sex easily elsewhere a woman needs to have more to offer than sex to attract and retain a mate.
This is absolutely true! Paid sex empowers some women who do it, but almost completely nullifies the traditional means by which a whole class of women "retain" men.

Paid sex and technology have completely reordered the dance of relationships. Monogamy is in for a rough ride either way.
 

cuttysark

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No. Seeing an SP is still being looked down upon by society here in Canada.

Personally, however, yes. I am done putting up with crap and being a door mat for the women just to get pussy. And it actually had a healthy effect on my dating life, I just laugh at bitches who think they have gold between their legs, and just go with women who respect me for who I am and look for a companionship on equal grounds.
I am sure that your attitude attracts nothing but superlative women...cream of the crop in fact
 
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