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wigglee

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Yes...fear mongering! the time tested Ronald Reagan method of achieving power ( those evil Russians!).
What? Hasn't Netanyahu issued a fatwa ordering the murder of anyone who publishes things he doesn't like?

OH wait that's Iran that does that.
In North America, anyone who criticizes Israel is labelled a racist. But what would Fuji label this guy????????

" Dagan said he believes the Iranian regime is a "very rational one," including firebrand President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad."An attack on Iran before you are exploring all other approaches is not the right way," Dagan said.
"And (President Obama) said openly that the military option is on the table and he is not going to let Iran become a nuclear state, and from my experience, I usually trust the president of the US."
The Obama administration maintains that tough sanctions on Iran and diplomatic efforts need to be given more time before any resort to bombing raids.
Israeli leaders however say time is running out for any pre-emptive strike. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday that sanctions against Iran have not worked, and "none of us can afford to wait much longer."
Dagan, who retired in January 2011 after eight years as director of the Israeli intelligence service, has repeatedly warned that an attack could fail to curb Iran's atomic ambitions while risking engulfing the region in conflict.
In the "60 Minutes" interview, he said he did not believe the Iranians were rushing forward to produce a bomb as they understood the consequences.
"But no doubt, they are considering all the implications of their actions," Dagan said. "They will have to pay dearly... and I think the Iranians at this point in time are... very careful on the project."
US military commanders say they have drawn up contingency plans for a potential attack on Iran's nuclear facilities and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta confirmed as much in an interview Thursday."
 

basketcase

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Nice of you to cross post the same useless information to two completely different threads.
 

wigglee

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Nice of you to cross post the same useless information to two completely different threads.
you're welcome....but why is an Dagan's expert opinion that netanyahoo is dangerously wrong, totally useless?
 

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I agree with Dagan that an attack would not produce the desired results. We need something more like a blockade, something that forces compliance.
 

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DOGGY!! The ignorant dog (pitbull) Why not just move to the Middle East and see what country is best to live in. Please stay out of Israel. Surely it's too democratic for you, ass wipe.
 
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doggystyle99

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DOGGY!! The ignorant dog (pitbull) Why not just move to the Middle East and see what country is best to live in. Please stay out of Israel. Surely it's too democratic for you, ass wipe.
The point that Zionists are hateful and racist keeps being proven by people like you.
Have a good life and keep being ignorant towards people who don't share your Zionist poing of view.
 

fuji

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The point that Zionists are hateful and racist keeps being proven by people like you.
Have a good life and keep being ignorant towards people who don't share your Zionist poing of view.
I see you still haven't apologized for getting the facts wrong about what American voters want. You're just going to ignore that one huh? That fact doesn't fit into your anti-Israeli agenda.
 

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That's because you think all Jews or people who support them are the same. It makes life simpler to reduce things you don't like or understand to a stereotype and then demonize it.
Its that attitude which allows Netanyahu to paint conciliation as the most dangerous of options.
 

doggystyle99

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You're the one feeding racism and hateful. All your comments are anti-Israel and anti-Jewish.
People like you very easily label anyone who speaks of the truth against the goverments of Israel and its wrong doings anti semitic without any cause.
Just like I would speak against the Iranian regime I speak against the Israeli regime, but you fail to do both and only criticize one and just close your eyes like a blind fool towards the other.
 

doggystyle99

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That's because you think all Jews or people who support them are the same. It makes life simpler to reduce things you don't like or understand to a stereotype and then demonize it.
Its that attitude which allows Netanyahu to paint conciliation as the most dangerous of options.
I don't think all Jews are the same as not all Jews believe in being Zionists just like not all Muslims are extremists. I believe the Zionist way of thinking is no different than Muslim extremists way of thinking and both needs to be stopped.
 

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Is this Rabbi a legitimate jewish scholar?





http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2012/03/201231083221669780.html


Weiss: Zionism has created 'rivers of blood'


When Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, visited Washington last week on the eve of the Purim holiday, he gave Barack Obama, the US president, what he considered a symbolic gift - a copy of the old testament book of Esther.

Netanyahu called it "background reading on Iran", since its story concerns relations with Jews in the Persian empire some 2,500 years ago.

It is considered by scholars to be mostly fiction, but for Netanyahu Esther represented justification for his stance against modern Iran.

”Israel must reserve the right to defend itself. And after all that’s the very purpose of the Jewish state. To restore to the Jewish people control over our destiny,” Netanyahu said.

But Netanyahu’s controversial reading of history, even his fight to preserve the state of Israel, are questioned by many of Judaism’s own religious authorities.

"This is against the will of the Almighty and this is not what it means to be a Jew," says Jewish religious scholar Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, a spokesman for "Jews against Zionism", who believes that Israel as a state is not legitimate. He says that Zionism has created "rivers of blood" and he opposes the occupation of Palestine.

On the threat from Iran and President Ahmadinejad he says: "He gives charity to Jewish communities and he says one thing: he has a problem with the oppression of the Palestinian people. And the words "wipe out" he constantly says that Iran doesn't have a history and he is not talking about harming anybody he says that God will not allow this crime to happen. We concur with him that Jews are in danger because there is Zionism because it says in the Tora if you rebel against God, it will not be successful and there will be catastrophic results and Zionism has brought catastrophic results and it could be much worse."
 

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I don't think all Jews are the same as not all Jews believe in being Zionists just like not all Muslims are extremists. I believe the Zionist way of thinking is no different than Muslim extremists way of thinking and both needs to be stopped.
If "Zionist" just means "anyone who thinks that Israel should exist" then you are a nutter.
 

basketcase

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i don't see you disagreeing with Netanyahoo very loudly, if at all.
I'm sure I've done so way more often (even excluding my views on the settler idiots) then I've heard you do the same about the Palestinians or Arab community in general.

Netanyahu is a dick but I just think the leader of a country building houses where other people don't want them is a lesser issue than the leader of a people who wants another country destroyed and targets it's civilians or a leader of a country that (alongside repressing their own people) are engaged in what all evidence suggests is a violation of the NPT.
 

cye

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A reasoned view that is probably lost on some but well said.

Many here would like to remove current Palestinian, Israeli relations from the context of history but that moment has not yet arrived and will not come to pass without a revitalization of the left in Israel and the emergence of a moderate Palestinian voice. So many positions hardened by centuries of mistrust and betrayal must be abandoned on both sides for peace to have a chance . Sadly I don't believe I will live to see that day.
 

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You're the one feeding racism and hateful. All your comments are anti-Israel and anti-Jewish.
Overplaying the anti-semitic card only discredits all you have to say.
The criticism here has been of one politician and the movement he is part of, it has nothing to race.
 

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The guys a fucking racist pig, if you even have a ounce of respect for him you deserved to be ass fucked until you bleed to death.
 

wigglee

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The guys a fucking racist pig, if you even have a ounce of respect for him you deserved to be ass fucked until you bleed to death.
are you referring to Weiss? If so, it appears you have issues regarding tolerance of diverse opinion and the notion of free speech.
 
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