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John Edwards

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No matter if he is guilty or innocent one thing I can say for sure............what a total scumbag. You Libs should be proud having him on your side ;)
 

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Although as I kept talking back to the radio on my drive this evening - the morality of his actions is not the issue, the issue is did he use campaign funds for illegal purposes and engage in a conspiracy to do so.
 

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the morality of his actions is not the issue, the issue is did he use campaign funds for illegal purposes and engage in a conspiracy to do so.
Well. I think it's fair to judge politicians on the morality of their actions, it's possibly more important than the legality. In this case, the morality of his actions means that he is now an ex-politician, regardless of the legal outcome.
 
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Well. I think it's fair to judge politicians on the morality of their actions, it's possibly more important than the legality. In this case, the morality of his actions means that he is now an ex-politician, regardless of the legal outcome.
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He'd make someone a nice bitch up in the big house.....

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Well. I think it's fair to judge politicians on the morality of their actions, it's possibly more important than the legality. In this case, the morality of his actions means that he is no an ex-politician, regardless of the legal outcome.
a) There is the legal - in Common Law jurisdictions we don't convict people because their actions are reprehensible e.g. Adultery is not a Criminal Offense in most Common Law jurisdictions anymore, rather we convict them because their actions are illegal. b) the political, yes for most (although far from all look at WJC and JFK) Dominion and U.S. politicians immoral actions are the kiss of death. c) the personal - what your family, friends, associates etc. . . think about you.

The issue at trial is whether he used campaign funds for illegal non-campaign purposes and engaged in a conspiracy to do so, not having a mistress. That however has no bearing upon points "b" and "c" which are completely outside the scope of "a".
 

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He's a douchebag who has done awful stuff and deserves the crap he is getting.This should not be a political stance of "your side" and "my side" but if you need a list.....
 

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Moral issues aside, the odds of him getting convicted on this are somewhere between slim and fuck all.

And while his personal life was a mess, I had a great deal of respect for his vision of America.
 

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he could
 

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Note their are no DEMS chiming in to defend him!

Were he a GOPer there WOULD BE a large chorus of Cons carping this is nothing but a politically motivated partisan attack attempting to smear a fine GOPer who is totally innocent!....:rolleyes:
 

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of course, nobody on terb would lie about their sexual indiscretions....lol
 

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Were he a GOPer there WOULD BE a large chorus of Cons carping this is nothing but a politically motivated partisan attack attempting to smear a fine GOPer who is totally innocent!....:rolleyes:

woody that is in his defense???


And you mean each time during the election process I said he was not qualified.

I was right??
 

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The issue at trial is whether he used campaign funds for illegal non-campaign purposes and engaged in a conspiracy to do so, not having a mistress. That however has no bearing upon points "b" and "c" which are completely outside the scope of "a".
Close, but the indictment is actually about allegedly illegal campaign contributions and a conspiracy to gather and hide those funds, rather than how the funds were spent. One of the donors has since died and won't be indicted, the other is now 100 years old and might not make it to trial were she to be indicted. The defence will argue that these were gifts, but the prosecutors will argue that the only link between the donors and the recipient was the Edwards campaign, and the indictment makes clear that hiding this affair was done to benefit the campaign.
 

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woody that is in his defense???


And you mean each time during the election process I said he was not qualified.

I was right??
Pretty sad. He was actually a Democrat candidate for President. How anyone could have supported this scumbag is beyond comprehension.
 

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Pretty sad. He was actually a Democrat candidate for President. How anyone could have supported this scumbag is beyond comprehension.
There were far far worse GOPer scumbags & War Criminalst! Namely Dubya and his DICK who come to mind!...:rolleyes:
 

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Close, but the indictment is actually about allegedly illegal campaign contributions
Wll yes and no. Yes they were illegal campaign contributions, but it was Edwards who soliticited them.

The defence will argue that these were gifts, but the prosecutors will argue that the only link between the donors and the recipient was the Edwards campaign, and the indictment makes clear that hiding this affair was done to benefit the campaign
The above is a good synopsis of the defence and prosecution positions.


By the way here is the actual indictment: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/112553/usa-v-johnny-reid-edwards.pdf
 
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