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At least 74 people were shot in one of the most violent weekends of the year in Chicago, spurred by a 7-hour period early Sunday morning when 41 people were shot.

Between 3 p.m. Friday and 6 a.m. Monday morning, 12 people were killed and 62 were wounded, according to Tribune data. Their ages spanned from 11 to 62 years old, and most of those shot were attacked on the South and West sides.

The weekend shootings initially tallied 75, but Chicago police reclassified one shooting after the investigation indicated a woman was hit by debris, rather than gunfire.

As of Friday, at least 1,700 people have been shot in the city this year, fewer than the last two years at this time when violence hit record levels in the city but well above other recent years. There have been at least 300 homicides, according to Tribune data.

Six of the shootings this weekend injured four or more people in a single attack, racking up 31 victims early Sunday.

The staggering numbers attracted national media attention and resulted in a news conference Sunday morning during which Chicago police Chief of Patrol Fred Waller blamed the violence on gang members who shoot into summer crowds at night.

“They take advantage of that opportunity and they shoot into a crowd, no matter who they hit,” Waller said.

Over the weekend, shooters targeted large groups at a block party, a funeral and other outdoor gatherings.

The largest attack wounded eight people in the South Side’s Gresham neighborhood around 12:40 a.m. Monday, including a 14-year-old girl and two 17-year-old girls.

Two 17-year-olds shot in separate incidents were the weekend’s youngest homicide victims.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-chicago-weekend-violence-20180806-story.html
 

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If only black lives mattered to black people.....
 

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They need to double ban handguns in Chicago to really stop the violence
 

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If lunatics and gangsters have such easy access to guns, it is not surprising at all. I remember a certain POTUS promising to keep every single American safe. Wonder what happened to that promise of his!!
 

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If lunatics and gangsters have such easy access to guns, it is not surprising at all. I remember a certain POTUS promising to keep every single American safe. Wonder what happened to that promise of his!!
Of course. The prime directive of Liberalism: No matter how badly you screw up, it is never, never, never your fault.

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At least 74 people were shot in one of the most violent weekends of the year in Chicago, spurred by a 7-hour period early Sunday morning when 41 people were shot.
HOLY SHIT!... Quick math, that's almost 6 people per hour (5.85 but yeah). 1 person every 10 minutes. woah!
 

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Of course. The prime directive of Liberalism: No matter how badly you screw up, it is never, never, never your fault.

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What has this got to do with Liberalism?? Gun Laws in the USA are as retarded as Hell, thanks to First Amendment. When are the Americans going to wake up to their stupidity!!
They are more fixated on that Wall that Mexico will pay for.
 

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What has this got to do with Liberalism?? Gun Laws in the USA are as retarded as Hell, thanks to First Amendment. When are the Americans going to wake up to their stupidity!!
They are more fixated on that Wall that Mexico will pay for.
Chicago is a gun free zone. Now who's the retard ?
 

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If only black lives mattered to black people.....

Which "Black People", Middle-class Suburban Republican White Person??!!...... The decent Black people trying to keep their jobs and raise their families? Or the drug dealers who get involved in violent crime?

If it's the latter, well no. Black lives don't matter a fuck. Nor do white, red or yellow lives. Because they're violent criminals. Did lives matter to Tony Soprano?

If it's the former, I assume Black lives - in fact, ALL lives - matter a lot. Just like they do to you and me and other middle class White People.

If you get a culture of drug dealing and violence in poverty-stricken Black neighbourhoods, whose fault is that? Is it because Blacks are somehow genetically less caring and responsible than Whites. I'm sure everybody thought that back in the Confederacy.

Or is it because Black neighborhoods are still struggling to move on from their unequal history in America? I'm not seeing that kind of gun violence in Black neighbourhoods in Europe or Australia or Canada. Draw your own conclusions.

Chicago is the central distribution point for the narcotics trade in the US. Common knowledge that this leads to endless vicious turf wars between trafficking gangs. If the central distribution point was Philly, or Boston or Topeka, KS, you'd have similar crime rates in THOSE cities. Looks like the War on Drugs is really working.
 

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Which "Black People", Middle-class Suburban Republican White Person??!!...... The decent Black people trying to keep their jobs and raise their families? Or the drug dealers who get involved in violent crime?

If it's the latter, well no. Black lives don't matter a fuck. Nor do white, red or yellow lives. Because they're violent criminals. Did lives matter to Tony Soprano?

If it's the former, I assume Black lives - in fact, ALL lives - matter a lot. Just like they do to you and me and other middle class White People.

If you get a culture of drug dealing and violence in poverty-stricken Black neighbourhoods, whose fault is that? Is it because Blacks are somehow genetically less caring and responsible than Whites. I'm sure everybody thought that back in the Confederacy.

Or is it because Black neighborhoods are still struggling to move on from their unequal history in America? I'm not seeing that kind of gun violence in Black neighbourhoods in Europe or Australia or Canada. Draw your own conclusions.

Chicago is the central distribution point for the narcotics trade in the US. Common knowledge that this leads to endless vicious turf wars between trafficking gangs. If the central distribution point was Philly, or Boston or Topeka, KS, you'd have similar crime rates in THOSE cities. Looks like the War on Drugs is really working.
Chicago is noteworthy because of raw volume, from a per capital murder St. Louis and Baltimore are far worse...

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/na..._5a789407-4d43-5403-ad56-7c47880bda8e.html#31
 

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What has this got to do with Liberalism?? Gun Laws in the USA are as retarded as Hell, thanks to First Amendment. When are the Americans going to wake up to their stupidity!!
They are more fixated on that Wall that Mexico will pay for.
Guns are very accessible all over the country, yet there are distinct cities where gun violence is out of control. Historically gun violence has been highest where gun laws are strictest (although I think the causality is regulation driven by violence, not the other way)
 

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Interesting....

Why is there so much shooting and killing in Chicago?
Editorial Board
Violent weekend in Chicago
A day after Chicago’s weekend from hell, when outbreaks of gunfire killed 12 people and injured at least 62, the carnage continued.

Derrick Hall, 22, was waiting for a bus in the 9100 block of South Cottage Grove Avenue on Monday morning when a man approached and shot him to death, the Tribune reported. In the afternoon, three men were shot on West Iowa Street in South Austin. Later, a man was shot in the wrist by someone in a passing car. A man was hit in the stomach. A man was struck while getting into a vehicle. At least 10 people were shot in eight incidents Monday on the South and West sides.

Don’t look for a pattern. Gun violence in Chicago is random the way destructive wind gusts are random. You can brace yourself but still not anticipate the location or severity of a blast. Monday easily could have been the quiet after the storm. We know of no connection between a man killed at bus stop Monday and a 17-year-old girl killed at block party Sunday, except that both were homicide victims in a city awash in illegal guns, and tormented by gang activity and the drug trade.

But why Chicago? Back in the early 1990s, the homicide rate in Chicago was as ugly as it was in New York and Los Angeles. Then began a steady national decline, Chicago included — until the abrupt recent upswing in violence here.

In 2015, there were 485 homicides in Chicago. A year later, the number of victims skyrocketed to 764. That was 58 percent more homicides and 43 percent more nonfatal shootings in 2016. Since then, the pace of gun violence has dropped, but it remains elevated from what used to be considered normal, and is far worse than in the nation’s two biggest cities.

There can’t be a rational explanation because Chicago’s plague of urban warfare isn’t logical; it’s horrifically cruel and self-destructive. A 2017 University of Chicago Crime Lab study was able to quantify how much of the city’s gunfire victimizes residents of struggling neighborhoods: Five South and West side communities with 9 percent of Chicago’s population (Austin, Englewood, New City, West Englewood and Greater Grand Crossing) accounted for nearly half the city’s increase in 2016 homicides. African-American men ages 15-34 made up more than half of the city’s homicide victims in 2015 and 2016 while accounting for just 4 percent of the city’s population. Almost 40 percent of victims had prior violent crime arrests.

“One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,” Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America, but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”

The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack. In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.

One positive development is this year’s 20 percent decline in the number of homicides and shooting incidents. New CPD crime-fighting tactics, based in part on U. of C. Crime Lab data, get some credit. But so much more has to be done to stop the shooting, punish offenders and save neighborhoods.

Because on Monday, the shooting continued.
 

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Interesting....

Why is there so much shooting and killing in Chicago?
Editorial Board
Violent weekend in Chicago
A day after Chicago’s weekend from hell, when outbreaks of gunfire killed 12 people and injured at least 62, the carnage continued.

Derrick Hall, 22, was waiting for a bus in the 9100 block of South Cottage Grove Avenue on Monday morning when a man approached and shot him to death, the Tribune reported. In the afternoon, three men were shot on West Iowa Street in South Austin. Later, a man was shot in the wrist by someone in a passing car. A man was hit in the stomach. A man was struck while getting into a vehicle. At least 10 people were shot in eight incidents Monday on the South and West sides.

Don’t look for a pattern. Gun violence in Chicago is random the way destructive wind gusts are random. You can brace yourself but still not anticipate the location or severity of a blast. Monday easily could have been the quiet after the storm. We know of no connection between a man killed at bus stop Monday and a 17-year-old girl killed at block party Sunday, except that both were homicide victims in a city awash in illegal guns, and tormented by gang activity and the drug trade.

But why Chicago? Back in the early 1990s, the homicide rate in Chicago was as ugly as it was in New York and Los Angeles. Then began a steady national decline, Chicago included — until the abrupt recent upswing in violence here.

In 2015, there were 485 homicides in Chicago. A year later, the number of victims skyrocketed to 764. That was 58 percent more homicides and 43 percent more nonfatal shootings in 2016. Since then, the pace of gun violence has dropped, but it remains elevated from what used to be considered normal, and is far worse than in the nation’s two biggest cities.

There can’t be a rational explanation because Chicago’s plague of urban warfare isn’t logical; it’s horrifically cruel and self-destructive. A 2017 University of Chicago Crime Lab study was able to quantify how much of the city’s gunfire victimizes residents of struggling neighborhoods: Five South and West side communities with 9 percent of Chicago’s population (Austin, Englewood, New City, West Englewood and Greater Grand Crossing) accounted for nearly half the city’s increase in 2016 homicides. African-American men ages 15-34 made up more than half of the city’s homicide victims in 2015 and 2016 while accounting for just 4 percent of the city’s population. Almost 40 percent of victims had prior violent crime arrests.

“One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,” Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America, but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”

The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack. In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.

One positive development is this year’s 20 percent decline in the number of homicides and shooting incidents. New CPD crime-fighting tactics, based in part on U. of C. Crime Lab data, get some credit. But so much more has to be done to stop the shooting, punish offenders and save neighborhoods.

Because on Monday, the shooting continued.
If my memory does not fail me, I seem to remember that you blamed the deaths in Chicago on Obama, when he was president. I would have thought the blame now logically would fall on Trump. No??
 

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More people have been shot in Chicago over the past two years than in Afghanistan.

The Mayor and City Council have forbidden the Chicago Police Department from stopping and frisking known gang members.
 

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If my memory does not fail me, I seem to remember that you blamed the deaths in Chicago on Obama, when he was president. I would have thought the blame now logically would fall on Trump. No??
Never once blamed Obama for the gun violence, I did criticize him for not trying to do something about it.
 
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