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Teachers: We're watching you!

JohnLarue

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Great, if you're asking what the electorate wants, this is it:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4424744/ontario-sex-ed-curriculum-ipsos-poll/

I think that's wise, planning the sex ed curriculum based on what the electorate wants, not the petty dictator presently running the province.
Good thinking, that is the way democracy should work.
What an idiot you are!
the election results determine what the electorate wants.Not one of your useless polls
An election is run with oversight and simple yet decisive choices. You can vote for candidate 1, 2, 3, 4, .... etc, pick one
Poll results can vary depending on the question asked, how it is worded, which location is chosen & what time of day it is & even how the results are inturperted


You apparently do not know the difference because your an untrustworthy idiot
Your party, the NDP,will forever be an also ran for the simple reason that the electorate recognises they are also untrustworthy idiots
 

JohnLarue

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More of your bullshit bluster and unsupported conclusions. Sorry but considering how well our students test compared to the rest of the world....
Tests scores & a token will get you downtown, but no further

Sorry but our kids deserve better than what the self serving teachers union decides
How in the world can you possibly think these parasites should determine public policy?
 

JohnLarue

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1) Defend means make sure their rights are defended.

2) There are no rules to be broken. I could once again post the details of the 1998 curriculum and show how the new topics could be included but you obviously were unwilling or unable to read them the first three times.
1. THEIR rights need defending ?????
Who speaks for parents, the students and taxpayers
Who is protecting the taxpayer from the teachers union?

2. If they do not comply with the governments directive, they will be in breach of their employment contract
Defiance can not & will not be tolerated
 

Frankfooter

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What an idiot you are!
the election results determine what the electorate wants.Not one of your useless polls
Polls, elections, referendum.
All are useful for understanding what the electorate wants.
Elections are not accurate representations of the electorate's will on all issues, many politicians have been elected with some unpopular ideas and some popular ones.
They still need to respect the wishes of the electorate, who clearly want an updated sex ed program.

Why is it that you are so against teaching kids about SDT's and 'sexting'?
Why have you gone on for 300 posts arguing against teaching kids these things?

(is it time to count the personal insults in your posts? you were concerned about insults, maybe its time for action)
So that's 2 personal insults to start.
 

Boober69

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Polls, elections, referendum.
All are useful for understanding what the electorate wants.
Elections are not accurate representations of the electorate's will on all issues, many politicians have been elected with some unpopular ideas and some popular ones.
They still need to respect the wishes of the electorate, who clearly want an updated sex ed program.

Why is it that you are so against teaching kids about SDT's and 'sexting'?
Why have you gone on for 300 posts arguing against teaching kids these things?

(is it time to count the personal insults in your posts? you were concerned about insults, maybe its time for action)
So that's 2 personal insults to start.
You mean elections are not accurate representations when your candidate doesn't win?
And it's kinda creepy that the new curriculum was written by a convicted child pornographer don't you think?
 

Frankfooter

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You mean elections are not accurate representations when your candidate doesn't win?
Do you really think that the electorate agrees with 100% of the winning parties platform all the time?
By that metric, do you therefore think that all of Canada fully supports a carbon tax?
 

Boober69

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Do you really think that the electorate agrees with 100% of the winning parties platform all the time?
By that metric, do you therefore think that all of Canada fully supports a carbon tax?
Those are leading questions...what’s your point?
 

Frankfooter

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The point is you do not have nor can you make a point.
I already did.
You confirmed that the electorate does not agree with Doug Ford on his sex ed rampage.
And you confirmed that getting elected doesn't mean that the electorate agrees with every policy on your platform.
Which means teachers and parents have a right to argue for and teach the curriculum that the electorate wants.
 

Boober69

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I already did.
You confirmed that the electorate does not agree with Doug Ford on his sex ed rampage.
And you confirmed that getting elected doesn't mean that the electorate agrees with every policy on your platform.
Which means teachers and parents have a right to argue for and teach the curriculum that the electorate wants.
I didn't confirm anything because I didn't understand you cryptic questions.
And I don't know of any parent who wants the curriculum crafted by a convicted (Convicted, ie not alleged, not accused...CONVICTED) child pornographer taught to their kids.
 

basketcase

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Bullshit. No one I know ever said their kids were taught about anal sex in school at any grade. You are making that up. ...
People I knew did have the negative impacts of anal discussed after numerous girls in their small town were developing incontinence issues.


And of course you want to ignore the hundreds of experts who wrote the curriculum and the thousands of parents consulted because you hero-worship any right leaning leader so you are simply looking for excuses. The guy might have been convicted for writing pedo stories but that doesn't invalidate a single thing in the curriculum. If it did you would have specific things you felt shouldn't be taught.
 

basketcase

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1. THEIR rights need defending
Yes. The rights of humans should be defended.

2. If they do not comply with the governments directive, they will be in breach of their employment contract
...
Why are you incapable of reading facts. The old curriculum leaves room for teachers to include all the topics you hate and I gave you the quotes to prove it but you don't care about any facts that interfere with your views on teachers.
 

JohnLarue

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Canadian students test results are evidence as opposed to your pure bullshit opinions.
Your so called evidence will not make a difference if these kids are not prepared for what is going to be a very challenging and rapidly changing employment environment.
how ever the teachers union wants to make sure they are prepared for anal sex (talk), just so long as they get test scores which can be used to justify their existence
 

JohnLarue

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Yes. The rights of humans should be defended.
Again , so who is defending the rights of taxpayers vs. the unions. Last time I looked taxpayers were humans
And given the increased enrichment of teachers vs the increased indebtedness of the taxpayer via govt debt. It is not teachers who need the protection

Why are you incapable of reading facts. The old curriculum leaves room for teachers to include all the topics you hate and I gave you the quotes to prove it but you don't care about any facts that interfere with your views on teachers.
Too bad for you it is not the old curriculum which is required. It is the new curriculum.
An end run around the requirement is still defiance of the directive and a breach of their employment contract.
Ford just threw the hammer at a much less important issue.
do you think he is going to lightly dance around with teachers who think they get to make policy and violate their employment contract?
 

Frankfooter

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Your so called evidence will not make a difference if these kids are not prepared for what is going to be a very challenging and rapidly changing employment environment.
Why are you so against teaching children about sexually transmitted diseases and the risks of social media and sexting?
Are you so rabidly against unions that you're willing to put children at risk in order to make a union suffer?
 

Boober69

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People I knew did have the negative impacts of anal discussed after numerous girls in their small town were developing incontinence issues.


And of course you want to ignore the hundreds of experts who wrote the curriculum and the thousands of parents consulted because you hero-worship any right leaning leader so you are simply looking for excuses. The guy might have been convicted for writing pedo stories but that doesn't invalidate a single thing in the curriculum. If it did you would have specific things you felt shouldn't be taught.
One parent per school? (4000 parents). This curriculum was rushed through. The PC's want to properly review it with proper consultations. What is wrong with that? When they don't do proper consultation people freak out, and when they do, people freak out as well.

And considering a pedo wrote it, at the very least, it warrants a proper review.
As an example, items in the curriculum may make younger students feel like they need to have sex sooner than they may have been comfortable.
 
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