Cost for independent SP rant
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I have a hunch that the OP and other posters in this thread
are actually aware of this. A few of them somehow decided to
bring such trivia to the attention to those hobbyists who choose
to see the $300--$600/hr escorts.
This was a great test OP.
Some providers who decided to chime in revealed a little more about their personality and just how nasty they really are, proving why they should be avoided - and it cost us nothing.
I would argue this is much better than a review!
Some providers who decided to chime in revealed a little more about their personality and just how nasty they really are, proving why they should be avoided - and it cost us nothing.
I would argue this is much better than a review!
Seems like only the fat and the old are getting all worked up when the topic of rates comes up. The hot ones don't give a shit because they're doing A-Okay.
Here is my statement. It clearly only has one interpretation and implies nothing beyond.
Because of all the flack I am getting, please note that I never said the rates are too high or that they have to be lowered. My posts have simply been a call to the ladies that this thread and others show that many of the hobbyists DO have concerns about rates. Whether they are right or not in their opinion it is still a FACT that some are concerned.
As such, as independent business operators, you need to accept that fact. You may not feel the need to do anything about it, but it is still a fact that the rates are a concern to some and it may force them to seek other providers, such as agencies.
So instead of just accepting that this is what is actually happening, I get slammed for a bunch of insinuations I never made. The kicker here is that with some of the vitriol delivered, now the character of some of the ladies is being questioned. So now, not only do some of the guys think the rates are too high, but they now also see a nasty side as is evidenced by posts like this and others:
Rates being too high is not a fact, that is up to each individual to opine for themselves. But a fact is that IT IS the opinion of some posters. And THAT is the only point that I have been trying to convey.
As such, as independent business operators, you need to accept that fact. You may not feel the need to do anything about it, but it is still a fact that the rates are a concern to some and it may force them to seek other providers, such as agencies.
So instead of just accepting that this is what is actually happening, I get slammed for a bunch of insinuations I never made. The kicker here is that with some of the vitriol delivered, now the character of some of the ladies is being questioned. So now, not only do some of the guys think the rates are too high, but they now also see a nasty side as is evidenced by posts like this and others:
As I've said earlier in this thread and in this post, all I have done is stated FACTS. Use the info in this thread or not. I care not a whit. It is your business and do as you please, but (and this is opinion, not fact) you should not be lashing out at facts. I feel you gain nothing and you run the risk of tarnishing your image.
Rates being too high is not a fact, that is up to each individual to opine for themselves. But a fact is that IT IS the opinion of some posters. And THAT is the only point that I have been trying to convey.
This thread is killing me...lol. 8 pages long now with the OP nowhere to be seen. As soon as this thread dies off I think I'll start another one...lol.
I understand your argument but disagree with it. I have had some negative experiences with unamed independent sps. I had an appointment with her years back and she ghosted me. Probably had too many clients. She advertises here and is popular. Her service was above average. But I get way more services with sps from agencies and sbs. I like BDSM which is hard to find in sps. Your argument paying more gets better service doesnt make sense.
If you like an independent sp and you want to see her a d pay more go for it. Our point here is there are amazing sps who work at agencies that can be seen at the 250 price point. You can also see sbs for 400 for a few hrs of fun.
If I were not able to find a sp for 250 that was into my kinks and a independent offered it for 500 I would go with the independent. The issue here is the above statement is not valid.
Problem is “ kias and Hyundai’s “ are asking Bentley price. Premium price tags ,require premium products.
No review policy? Must be hiding something.
Screening? I'll be blackmailed.
Deposit? She's a thief.
Not all providers who ask for these things have bad intentions. But some do. Caveat emptor.
Sephania. I don't know what business you think you're in, and it's entirely up to you. I think you're in the business of giving clients a feeling of being a someone, important, or important enough that in a short part of 1 day they can pretend to be important to at least 1 individual in their otherwise lonely or not so lonely life. Or maybe just get a much needed release, or whatever else they pay you for, your time and some skills.
I just took a peek at your twitter account. I'm disgusted, really. It's one thing to think of clients as being sad cases, but to use their open and honest private communication for your mean spirited, bullying, demeaning, entitled pleasure, is pure evil.
Best.
In my experience, higher rates are rarely worth it. You're not getting a better experience at $500/hr vs. $250/hr.
To continue the car analogy that some have used (I tread softly comparing women to cars.. no offence is intended).. It's like a Cadillac ELR vs. a Chevy Volt (for those not familiar with the former: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZidmj1VaFw).
I think guys simply need to educate themselves before booking. If you don't understand the market, you can be taken for a ride. Some providers will price themselves to take advantage of these naive guys. A fool and his money are soon parted.
If, after doing your due diligence, you still believe a higher rate is justified, go for it.
If you think rates are too high, vote with your wallet. Let the invisible hand do it's work.
To continue the car analogy that some have used (I tread softly comparing women to cars.. no offence is intended).. It's like a Cadillac ELR vs. a Chevy Volt (for those not familiar with the former: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZidmj1VaFw).
I think guys simply need to educate themselves before booking. If you don't understand the market, you can be taken for a ride. Some providers will price themselves to take advantage of these naive guys. A fool and his money are soon parted.
If, after doing your due diligence, you still believe a higher rate is justified, go for it.
If you think rates are too high, vote with your wallet. Let the invisible hand do it's work.
I have been letting "the invisible hand do it's work" all my life. boring but cheap. I have never paid high prices,because it just seemed it would be a case of diminishing returns. Fortunately my taste goes for cheaper Asian mlfs,who have given me some of the best times of my life.
Squeeze my man you still don't get it:doh: Your not buying a car here your buying intimacy & escape. Of course if it was a car no amount of smoke & mirrors or salesmanship would get me to pay 10k more but were not buying cars here! Your missing Garrett's & many others points it's someone's choice & their freakin money! If they get a gold experience with provider A who charges five hun an hour & their happy what fackin business is it of yours or mine to say their foolish & overpaid? My buddy wanted me to shell out almost 5k for a ticket to last weeks Raptors game...I'm sure it would have been a great time but I'm not a huge b ball fan & declined. Should I've told him he's a fool the face value for that ticket was probably only a few hun? He went & had a great time, who the fack am I to judge what someone does with their money! Saying that would I spend five hun on an escort...prolly not! But I'm not going to heckle someone for doing it & not going to complain about SP's charging that much. That's just good business, charge more & work less if you can...go bitches go! The great thing about money Squeeze...there's billions out there you can always make more!
Your analogy also works for sps. Maybe guys here are more into certain acts such as.cimsw cof slapping etc. I am a guy more interested in performing these acts rather than the sp giving me an ego boost. Different strokes for different folks. This thread is good info for the new guys looking to hobby. The take home point is more money does not equate to a better experience.
I may be repeating many others who already said the same, but this topic is not about whether or not the rate for independents are too high, it is about WHY it is higher than for agencies. Not from supply side (the marked does not care how much the production cost is, it only cares abut the price of comparable products and the customer's desire to obtain the product), but from the demand side (why people are willing to pay higher rates for independents instead of paying the competitive market price for agency girls). So far, there are two opposing arguments:
1) Independents provide better services than agency girls
2) Customers are not sufficiently informed and foolishly believe that higher price means higher quality.
It seems the SPs in this threat try to defend the former argument while the guys say that the latter is true. And I am with the guys on this one (and not just because I am a guy). The SPs main argument in support of their superior service is: "if someone is willing to pay more for my services, my services must be superior", which, IMHO, is incorrect as such anomaly can be explained by customer's uninformativeness. And when SPs are asked to explain how exactly their services are better than agency girls', their main response is: "you will not understand". Given that independent SPs, are, on average (note that I say "on average"), older, uglier looking, and have worse attitude, the only conclusion is that they get clients that are either ill-informed (Americans or new to the hobby) or who are too lazy to venture out of their comfort zone and/or feel guilty by paying too little for sex. So, this thread is to educate the guys and help them to make an informative decision.
1) Independents provide better services than agency girls
2) Customers are not sufficiently informed and foolishly believe that higher price means higher quality.
It seems the SPs in this threat try to defend the former argument while the guys say that the latter is true. And I am with the guys on this one (and not just because I am a guy). The SPs main argument in support of their superior service is: "if someone is willing to pay more for my services, my services must be superior", which, IMHO, is incorrect as such anomaly can be explained by customer's uninformativeness. And when SPs are asked to explain how exactly their services are better than agency girls', their main response is: "you will not understand". Given that independent SPs, are, on average (note that I say "on average"), older, uglier looking, and have worse attitude, the only conclusion is that they get clients that are either ill-informed (Americans or new to the hobby) or who are too lazy to venture out of their comfort zone and/or feel guilty by paying too little for sex. So, this thread is to educate the guys and help them to make an informative decision.
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