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‘Shady’ Anti-Teachers’ Union Ads Might Break Election Rules: Taras Natyshak

Darts

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According to the Minister taxpayers are paying over $700mm annually for teachers on sick leave.
 

JohnLarue

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Or the ads could have been placed by people who are fed up of their kids being used as pawns by the greedy teachers unions.
Possible?
no
That mess was written by the Huffington Post
They could not possibly give any consideration to anyone paying taxes or with kids who should be attending school.
They could not possibly give any consideration the provinces ever growing unmanageable debt load and continuous deficts.
Simply because they believe a union has the right to demand a 2% raise of $90K per year and a unions rights must outweigh and trump common sense and anyone's expectations te provinces finances be managed in a responsible manner.
 

JohnLarue

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If a kid is a spoiled brat, it is solely the fault of the parent(s).
Your child, your responsibility. Full stop.
And part of that responsibility is demanding your kids are not saddled with way more than $350 B in provincial debt when they start their career
Full stop
 

mandrill

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FFS, "Vaughan Working Families" was outed a few days ago as a fake astroturf group composed of a multi millionaire attorney closely linked to the OPC and a couple of his buddies. The "concerned mom" who's featured in the ads is a stock photo purchased from a photo site.

Boober, go learn to use Google and find it!
 

apoptygma

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And part of that responsibility is demanding your kids are not saddled with way more than $350 B in provincial debt when they start their career
Full stop
How many parents have been over-paid (over-bribed) this past week by the inept government?
And you blame the debt on teachers wanting healthy wages and COLAs.
 

JohnLarue

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How many parents have been over-paid (over-bribed) this past week by the inept government?
A mistake by career bureaucrats in the provincial finance department, does not justify 17 years of deficits & $350 B in debt


And you blame the debt on teachers wanting healthy wages and COLAs.
Look, the provinces biggest expenditure is paying salaries. Public sector union salaries
The public sector unions are not true partners as they absolutely do not give any consideration the alarming status of the provinces finances


Healthy wages???
$90K for 9 1/2 months work is ridiculous, getting far too close to the top 10% of all incomes in Canada ($96K) and most importantly it is unsustainable.
We can not afford the teachers union. It is simple as that
 

mandrill

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Group Behind Mysterious Anti-Teacher Attack Ads Chaired By a Well-Connected Conservative Millionaire

Mysterious 'Vaughan Working Families' group is linked to one of the richest and most powerful men in Vaughan
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It turns out the mysterious “Vaughan Working Families” group is actually linked to one of the richest and most powerful men in Vaughan, Ontario.

Last weekend, full-page ads attacking teachers appeared in the Globe and Mail, Toronto Star and National Post, all paid for by a mystery group calling itself “Vaughan Working Families.”

First reported by PressProgress, the fake parents’ group’s ads featured a fake mother (in reality, a stock photo model from Poland) accusing teachers of using children as “pawns.”

Toronto Star, National Post

On Thursday, the Toronto Star traced the money that paid for the ads to a law firm in Etobicoke called Loopstra Nixon LLP.

Following the Star’s report, the law firm acknowledged “Loopstra Nixon partner Quinto Annibale serves on the board of directors of the VHCC (Vaughan Health Campus of Care) / Vaughan Working Families in his personal capacity.”

The law firm said that it is a “legal registered office for organizations who do not have a physical place of business” and emphasized that this is a “standard practice in the legal industry.”

According to the Star, the name “Vaughan Working Families” was “registered in 2018 by an advocacy group called Vaughan Health Campus of Care.”

Loopstra Nixon

According to the Globe and Mail, corporate records identify five directors for Vaughan Health Campus of Care:

Quinto Annibale
Sam Ciccolini
Robert Colelli
Robert Maggisano
Michael DeGasperis

Michael DeGasperis, the wealthy Vaughan developer who serves as the board’s chair, did not respond to requests for comment from PressProgress about his role with the VHCC or whether he had knowledge of the “Vaughan Working Families” ads.

Corporate records obtained by PressProgress show the VHCC also operates under the name “The Vaughan Health Care Foundation” (VHCF), a registered charity that also lists DeGasperis as its chair.

As the president of Arista Homes and the CEO of TACC Construction, DeGasperis is one of the richest and most powerful men in Vaughan, Ontario.

DeGasperis’ name has appeared listed as a generous donor to Holy Trinity School, an elite private school in Richmond Hill.

Vaughan Health Campus of Care (Vimeo)

Vaughan Health Campus of Care has described itself as a “citizen-led, non-profit organization of community members” dedicated to building a mega-hospital in Vaughan, Ontario.

However, the group has previously been registered as a third party advertiser and taken out highly partisan ads calling on Vaughan to vote for the Ontario PCs.

In 2011, the VHCC found itself at the centre of a controversy after Stephen Harper’s Conservative government directed $10 million grant to the group, something that raised eyebrows given DeGasperis served as fundraising co-chair for former Harper cabinet minister Julian Fantino’s 2010 by-election campaign.

Fantino’s spokesperson at the time, Stephen Lecce, defended the $10 million grant as an “investment will benefit Vaughan families.”

The VHCC blamed the controversy on “political game playing” and said $8.7 million in grant money was later returned to the federal government.

CBC News

DeGasperis still appears to be actively involved in partisan politics.

Elections Ontario records show DeGasperis has been both a Tory and Liberal donor in the past, but most recently made a $1,050 donation in support of Doug Ford’s Ontario PCs in 2019.

Last September, the Copper Creek Golf Club, which his family reportedly owns, also hosted a $1,000 per-plate dinner and reception organized by the King-Vaughan Ontario Progressive Conservative Party.

Later in October, DeGasperis was spotted at a campaign event in Vaughan with federal Conservative leader Andrew Scheer held in a suburban subdivision.

That moment was helpfully captured by Paul Greco, a local businessman with ties to Education Minister Stephen Lecce, who was recently portrayed as an angry parent in a widely criticized column by the Toronto Sun’s Joe Warmington.

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In fact, as recently as last month, Ontario’s education minister rang in 2020 with his annual “New Year’s Levee” at DeGasperis’ private golf club.

DeGasperis also made a $250 donation directly to Lecce’s riding association in 2018.

Two weeks before the end of 2018, the education minister tweeted a photo of himself and his wealthy donor when DeGasperis was awarded the Order of Vaughan.

Lecce singled out DeGasperis and the three others award recipients by name, describing them as “leaders of character and true city builders.”

Stephen Lecce (Twitter)

Lecce has repeatedly denied having any advance knowledge of the ads.

So far, DeGasperis has not explained what — if anything — he had to with the ads that were paid for by the organization he chairs.

Both Ontario’s NDP opposition as well as a Toronto Catholic school trustee have called on Elections Ontario to launch an investigation into the ads.


It's pretty sad, huh John?

Here's a group of people who pretend to be ordinary parents and they're multi millionaire Tory hacks the entire time! Doesn't it make you sick to your stomach when you read about this kind of flummery?

Now John, you may be a foam-at-the-mouth right wing extremist crazy with ideas out of the 1830's, but you can't support this kind of media dishonesty. I demand you take a stand here and disassociate yourself from DeGasperis and his deceitful Tory hack allies and show what you're made of!
 

apoptygma

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A mistake by career bureaucrats in the provincial finance department, does not justify 17 years of deficits & $350 B in debt



Look, the provinces biggest expenditure is paying salaries. Public sector union salaries
The public sector unions are not true partners as they absolutely do not give any consideration the alarming status of the provinces finances


Healthy wages???
$90K for 9 1/2 months work is ridiculous, getting far too close to the top 10% of all incomes in Canada ($96K) and most importantly it is unsustainable.
We can not afford the teachers union. It is simple as that
Yup... let's raise the future generations with sub-par education standards... and we will end up brain-damaged Doug Ford's running everything from the gas station to The Supreme Court.
But from your antiquated views of pretty much every topic, you couldn't give a shit, because you won't be around to see the effects of your proposals.
 

Boober69

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Yup... let's raise the future generations with sub-par education standards... and we will end up brain-damaged Doug Ford's running everything from the gas station to The Supreme Court.
But from your antiquated views of pretty much every topic, you couldn't give a shit, because you won't be around to see the effects of your proposals.
We're already at sub par education standards. Things can only get better.
 

jcpro

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So???? The unions have been flooding the media with propaganda. Did they really think that they had monopoly on messaging? Scratch that. That's what union would believe.
 

basketcase

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So???? The unions have been flooding the media with propaganda. Did they really think that they had monopoly on messaging? Scratch that. That's what union would believe.
It doesn't bother you that a Ford crony outright lied with his campaign?
 

jcpro

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Boober69

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How many parents have been over-paid (over-bribed) this past week by the inept government?
And you blame the debt on teachers wanting healthy wages and COLAs.
Assisting parents who are dealing with child care issues because the teachers are on strike is not a bribe.
And that money comes from the money that’s not being paid to teachers while they are on strike.
Your rage is misguided.
 

bver_hunter

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Paying the best teachers what they are entitled to is the road to that destination.
So you decide what they are entitled, or is it that Street Cannabis seller who is bitter that he did not get a University Degree??
 

Boober69

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So you decide what they are entitled, or is it that Street Cannabis seller who is bitter that he did not get a University Degree??
No idea what you are rambling about but many very successful people don’t have university degrees.
So not really sure what your point is...and I’m quite sure you don’t know either.
 
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