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Will Woodbine kill Niagara?

spankingman

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Niagara will continue to gets Americans over the border. And with the low Canadian dollar Americans will keep coming over for a while.
Not so sure about that. The native run Casinos like Seneca Nation in Niagara Falls,Salamanca etc have smoking and free booze as long as you are gambling. I can't see many Americans coming over here with our archaic smoking,booze laws.

About half maybe more of the Seneca Casino patrons in NF NY are from Canada enticed by the smoking and booze.
 

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That is my understanding too. It will be a full commercial casino.
Even if it is a scaled down version it will kick butt. Convenience alone will make it successful and draw Torontonians away from the rural competition.
I think the others, may have to make themselves into a stay and play venue. Rama may have to cater more to the cottage crowd.
Entertainment may get bigger and better.
Woodbine has the biggest track of unused commercial land in the GTA. Would be a great site for a new arena for TO's "second" NHL team lol!
 

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Woodbine has the biggest track of unused commercial land in the GTA. Would be a great site for a new arena for TO's "second" NHL team lol!
Seriously doubt you will see a sports arena go up there. By the time you build a hotel with an entertainment facility a lot of that empty space will be gone. You also require a lot of parking area. The casino wants to keep the high end patrons gambling and while they are gone to a 3 plus hour hockey game, that is a lot of lost revenue. A concert will run from 45 to an hour and a half.
The shorter the better from the casino point of view. If there is a big sporting event in town or nearby, the casino will find a way to get tickets and move patrons to and from the event. A casino is all about making money and they are experts at it.
 

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I go to Woodbine once in a while and notice a few things compaired to Rama and Niagara.

1. There isn't really a bar you can go to get a free drink, pop or coffee. Even if you want to hang with friends for a drink, its every limited.
2. The majority of the service jobs are very rude in my opinion.
3. Very crowded, its like a maze in there.
4. Wait time for slot help/pay out very very slow as I waited 30 mins for a hand pay, and 25 mins for empty paper on a week night.

Thats why I only go there once in a while.
 

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For those who are interested, instead of all the conjecture and wild guesses so far on this thread, why doesn't one just visit the Standardbred Canada website or the Woodbine Entertainment website. Look up the various articles on the proposed entertainment complex that have been floating around for years but scuttled when the no-good Liberals pulled the plug on the horseracing industry in 2012.
 

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Not so sure about that. The native run Casinos like Seneca Nation in Niagara Falls,Salamanca etc have smoking and free booze as long as you are gambling. I can't see many Americans coming over here with our archaic smoking,booze laws.

About half maybe more of the Seneca Casino patrons in NF NY are from Canada enticed by the smoking and booze.
Gambling winnings in Canada are tax free, not so in the States. I would think tax free winnings would be a drawing card for American gamblers but only if they didn't tell the IRS they won anything.
 

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Are they going to start building the 5000-seat concert venue soon? They announced it a year ago.
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/16/new-complex-planned-for-woodbine-racetrack-site

Since I don't care about gambling, the shows have been the only reasons I've ever been to Rama and Fallsview, so I could see this eroding the number of people from the GTA who go there. Rama is presently the only one of the three with a venue of that size, but it's in the middle of nowhere. Fallsview at least is in the city where you can walk around to go to other places, but the venue is too small at only about a thousand seats, and it seems they're also now trying to get a 5 to 7 thousand-seat venue added.
http://www.niagarathisweek.com/news...ntertainment-centre-a-step-closer-to-reality/
 

spankingman

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"Casino Woodbine" is now up and running with100 live tables and more plans to expand.

"Elements Casino Mohawk" is in the process of major renovations at Mohawk Racetrack now called Woodbine Mohawk Park.
WMP are also in the midst of their own renovations as well. Elements is leasing areas that WMP had as surplus areas that were not used.
 

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The table games are not that great at Woodbine, in fact I would label it as terrible compared to even what Brantford used to be. No self-serve pop and coffee station, minimums on table games, especially blackjack are too high and too much focus on the video camera based single dealer card games with touch screens than multiple smaller table set ups, the decor is like the boardroom of a holiday inn. Plain babyblue/off-white walls. I guess they are trying to move away from that distracting Vega style of making you forget what time it is, but it definitely needs work.
 

Hugh G. Rekshun

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I have a relative who works at WEG and the plan she says is to make it a full entertainment complex racing,casino,theatre,hotel and more.
The 5000-seat theatre across the road from Fallsview is well on its way to being finished and open by next summer.
http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/news-story/8986646-photo-bird-s-eye-view-of-new-theatre/
Plans for a similar facility at Woodbine were announced more than two and a half years ago, but I couldn't see any sign of construction having started when I went past there a few weeks ago. From the last mention I could find of it, from about six months ago, it seems to have already been reduced to "the 4,200 seat entertainment venue".
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2018/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-114000.pdf
 
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