That makes total sense to me. Seems like a fun way to do things.
The OP, not so much. LOL
I love strippers so much but here's my problem.
- Thread starter Tashki
- Start date
The OP, not so much. LOL
I agree, this is good advice.
However...
It does happen. I know a stripper who fell in love and married one of her customers, leaving the industry for him. I've also personally gone out with strippers, including those who had retired and who I hadn't spent a dime on in years. But, that kind of thing is rare. I used to frequent strip clubs A LOT 4 - 8 years ago, and in all that time I only did off-the-clock activities with three ladies. And by off-the-clock, I truly mean no monetary impetus. Many dancers will go with you simply for a free meal or expect you to pick up the tab for an event or shopping outing. That's not what I'm talking about. I mean as actual friends or lovers. I find many guys have trouble understanding the difference.
Chances are OP, that you won't get what you want. Strippers don't go to work expecting to find a BF. Hell, their success often depends on selling the hint that that is possible, but they themselves are desensitized to the idea. If you go in trying to accomplish that feat...good luck!
Lots of strippers are mpas this guy knows that and his tastes are known
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?613887-MPA-s-with-pornstar-like-physical-attributes
He visits mpa and sp alike ... he just wants one as his gf or who knows given his strange posting history.
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https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?613887-MPA-s-with-pornstar-like-physical-attributes
He visits mpa and sp alike ... he just wants one as his gf or who knows given his strange posting history.
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20 years ago - this statement was 90+% accurate.
Now, 50% or more strip clubs allow 'extras' and majority of the dancers in this club offer them - right up to FS, in the VIP. Around 30-50% of those working as MA provide Oral and often FS for a price. Some 'Spas' that have many reviews on here are actually escorts essentially operating out of a Spa location.
While you are correct there are still many dancers who 'dance only' and work at a) clubs that are dance only or b) work at Extra's club and simply decline offering extra's.
Your statement 'many get upset when clients try to push boundaries in strip clubs' - I disagree with. Majority of the time the clients know they are in a 'dance only' club or 'Extra's' club and so do the dancers.
What I suspect is dance only ladies who attempt to work at busy clubs that offer Extra's become frustrated as they are not making much money and yes technically, gents will be asking for Extras from them like every other dancer which can add to becoming upset.
All I have summarized for you here is available reading the threads on TERB if you don't believe me. Just wanted to bring you up to current understanding of strip clubs and MA's in the GTA.
Great insight - never thought to check his posting history and haven't seen his posts before to make that connection.
Jessica, I am mistaken - this OP does want a stripper to be his GF but clearly doesn't understand what it takes to achieve this effectively - few can (meeting a lady at work as a client/dancer) and he is sadly out of touch with reality as you suggested. My apologies.
Hey G.D. Gentlemen
Firstly, I must thank you for your contribution to this thread. I thought your insights were quite valuable and and especially that SP list you provided.
I have thing for females who doll themselves up from head to toe and in my opinion, strippers generally do that the best out of SP’s and MPA’s. I wouldn’t want to date a woman unless she has work done on her body like a pornstar and loves going to the nail salon. Those are the kind of girls that I like and a lot of strippers tend to do that.
I think I am somewhere between the line of being a customer of a stripper that provides GF experience or be the boyfriend of a low-mileage stripper. I would probably lean a bit towards the first option because it sounds less stressful and I think a business relationship would last longer than a romantic relationship with a stripper.
I appreciate everybody else who chimed in and suggested solutions so far. Thanks.
For some, it is the 'thrill' of the hunt.
But we all know that 'extras' are practically endemic at a number of GTA clubs; clearly, at least some dancers are there to provide sexual services.
That has been my experience lately. In fact, the strippers get a bit surly if you don’t take them up on their offers for extras...they don’t wanna waste time with $20 dances.
I used to dance at Brass Rail and House of Lancaster when it was still open on The Queensway.
I will be completely honest based on my experience working as a dancer, and seeing how other dancers operate.
MOST dancers have a boyfriend, or a "manager"
I estimate over 80 percent.
They will lie to you (the customer) and say they are single. If you know they have a boyfriend or pimp, you won't keep spending or keep coming back.
PERIOD.
Next fact:
SOME strippers WILL see you outside the club after a shift. Those are the ones that actually ARE single.
Pimps/boyfriends fear that they might "lose" their girl to a big spender/rich customer if they see you outside of the club, and will not allow their girls to do so.
$1000 hour for a "good looking" dancer and a lot less for a not so good looking dancer.
Sex in strip clubs happens, some places are easier to pull this off than others..... you just have to know what to say and have the right amount in your wallet.
It WILL be a rushed service. That is guaranteed.
Hope this gives you some clarity.
I will be completely honest based on my experience working as a dancer, and seeing how other dancers operate.
MOST dancers have a boyfriend, or a "manager"
I estimate over 80 percent.
They will lie to you (the customer) and say they are single. If you know they have a boyfriend or pimp, you won't keep spending or keep coming back.
PERIOD.
Next fact:
SOME strippers WILL see you outside the club after a shift. Those are the ones that actually ARE single.
Pimps/boyfriends fear that they might "lose" their girl to a big spender/rich customer if they see you outside of the club, and will not allow their girls to do so.
$1000 hour for a "good looking" dancer and a lot less for a not so good looking dancer.
Sex in strip clubs happens, some places are easier to pull this off than others..... you just have to know what to say and have the right amount in your wallet.
It WILL be a rushed service. That is guaranteed.
Hope this gives you some clarity.
I have casually dated several dancers over the years and while there was a lot of positive experiences and memories - the understanding that a) she's a dancers and does what a dancer does and b) you were (likely) a regular at strip clubs and likely still going to them - this puts a unique pressure on the relationship I found and share with all the readers here. Impossible? No. Long term success percentage? Very low...
...of those dancers who are not 'managed' (LoveLynn gave a great overview above, first hand experience from working within the club) they often seek out a bf who has nothing to do with the dancer life, to have separation from 'work' life and 'personal' life.
So Tashki, your thoughts of becoming a boyfriend of a low-mileage stripper - been there, done that - didn't work out anywhere close to the hopes one might have. Won't stop you from trying, make sure you have thousands of dollars to spend on dating her (no not paying her, just to be dating her) and good luck, you're going to need it.
When clients try to be my boyfriend, I tell them to go home to their wife and/or mother’s basement.
Unless a client offers to pay my school tuition and buy me land and put a lump sum in my acct to fund my future business plans, then they really have nothing to offer me.
I don’t need a boyfriend to be happy. I’m already happy. Extremely happy.
My life is peaceful. Stable. Quiet. Drama free. Just the way I like it.
Well, what about love, you might ask? I love myself. I don't need the love of others to validate my self-worth.
Until I find someone who loves as I do, I'm staying single.
I’m in college for another 2 years and I got bills to pay and future goals.
I don't have time to fall in love with another Joe Shmoe who doesn't have anything to bring to the table other than a selfish desire to have me as a personal sex object and put me on lockdown, at the expense of me having to live within the means of a fraction of what I currently do and put my financial goals on the backburner. It's usually followed by being cheated on to compensate for their feelings of inadequacy and to feed their ego.
You guys aren't wealthy enough for me to put up with your shit. :der:
Go home, John. You’re drunk.
Unless a client offers to pay my school tuition and buy me land and put a lump sum in my acct to fund my future business plans, then they really have nothing to offer me.
I don’t need a boyfriend to be happy. I’m already happy. Extremely happy.
My life is peaceful. Stable. Quiet. Drama free. Just the way I like it.
Well, what about love, you might ask? I love myself. I don't need the love of others to validate my self-worth.
Until I find someone who loves as I do, I'm staying single.
I’m in college for another 2 years and I got bills to pay and future goals.
I don't have time to fall in love with another Joe Shmoe who doesn't have anything to bring to the table other than a selfish desire to have me as a personal sex object and put me on lockdown, at the expense of me having to live within the means of a fraction of what I currently do and put my financial goals on the backburner. It's usually followed by being cheated on to compensate for their feelings of inadequacy and to feed their ego.
You guys aren't wealthy enough for me to put up with your shit. :der:
Go home, John. You’re drunk.
Excellent perspective Lovelynn and thank you for sharing. Your posts in various threads give even greater insight into the amazing lady you are for those of us who have not yet had the chance to enjoy time with you.
A key point you made is when clients try to be your boyfriend - that is simply the absolutely bottom line of why it doesn't work, they forget this is 'work' for the lady and they are just a 'client'.
The several dancers I have casually dated in the last 20 years of visiting the clubs always be friended me, first just friendly texting after exchanging numbers, then they suggested meeting for dinner or drinks and everything went from there. Basically I was one of the lucky few that a dancer choose to explore a friendship and then casual dating with me beyond work - 100% her choice to initiate/pursue.
If you try to pursue a dancer/MP/SP to be more than just a client to them...it never works or works out really bad, often for both. Enjoy the luxury in life we have to be clients of these ladies in their various professions is the lesson I have learned and hope many of you will as well.
No, I never said that, in fact, I have had several long term relationships with men I met as client's, and they ended for various reasons.
No, they were not all rich by any means, only one was, and I loved them all deeply.
I think the point you're missing is unless you are giving a SP, MPA, or dancer a damn good reason to get out of the business and be monogamous to you, and are doing something proactive to enrich her future, you have no business being a self-seeking, delusional client.
'Nuff said.
....and with that being said.....
I think a lot of you fail to realize the part of the "hustle" for dancers is giving out their number, texting back and forth, manipulating you into returning to the club to spend money, and spending time with you "off the clock" to feel you out.
It's a process of establishing an emotional connection to make you "fall" for them, and once they determine you aren't rich or dumb enough to fall for their tricks, you're "friend zoned"
Do you guys not realize that you're ONE of a HUNDRED guys they meet per week in the clubs, and run these games on?
WAKE UP! :crazy:
I think a lot of you fail to realize the part of the "hustle" for dancers is giving out their number, texting back and forth, manipulating you into returning to the club to spend money, and spending time with you "off the clock" to feel you out.
It's a process of establishing an emotional connection to make you "fall" for them, and once they determine you aren't rich or dumb enough to fall for their tricks, you're "friend zoned"
Do you guys not realize that you're ONE of a HUNDRED guys they meet per week in the clubs, and run these games on?
WAKE UP! :crazy:
Very interesting perspective Lovelynn, appreciate you sharing.
Of the gents who you did have long term relationships with that you met at the club - in each case you choose to pursue the mutual interest further, beyond the interaction you had with them initially as a client/dancer - correct?
That is all I was trying to point out to the readers - if the lady doesn't choose to be more than a client/dancer with you, then as you said - we are just one of hundred(s) of men they meet and treat well within the club and not to confuse the fantasy-like enjoyment we have with them to be more then client/dancer - unless the lady happens to choose you to possibly be more.
Hope you're having an amazing weekend Lovelynn.
It always amazes me, the number of guys who honestly seek to pursue exclusive/romantic relationships with SP's, MPA's and dancers, despite the odds of success clearly against.
With all due respect or lack thereof, again, G.D. you are wrong.
Honestly, I feel like I am talking to a brick wall half the time on this forum.
So many of you assume, misconstrue, or are too small-minded and egotistical to absorb any of the "insider" information I'm telling you to benefit YOU, CLIENTS.
I literally get nothing out of wasting my breath continuously having to explain myself to those who are committed to misunderstanding me.
In fact, it's draining my energy and disturbing the peaceful little world I live in.
If you guys want to live in your delusional world and think you have all the answers and compete in your cock measuring contests, knock yourself out.
Good luck guys, you're going to need it.
I'm keeping my secrets and no more cheat codes for you!
You silenced me.
Congratulations. :yo:
Honestly, I feel like I am talking to a brick wall half the time on this forum.
So many of you assume, misconstrue, or are too small-minded and egotistical to absorb any of the "insider" information I'm telling you to benefit YOU, CLIENTS.
I literally get nothing out of wasting my breath continuously having to explain myself to those who are committed to misunderstanding me.
In fact, it's draining my energy and disturbing the peaceful little world I live in.
If you guys want to live in your delusional world and think you have all the answers and compete in your cock measuring contests, knock yourself out.
Good luck guys, you're going to need it.
I'm keeping my secrets and no more cheat codes for you!
You silenced me.
Congratulations. :yo:
