I hope that they had rifles and confederate flags with them. It works every time.
End the Lockdown
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And they would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those darn kid-like thinkers.
Doctors raise alarm about health effects of continued coronavirus shutdown: 'Mass casualty incident'
More than 600 doctors signed onto a letter sent to President Trump Tuesday pushing him to end the "national shutdown" aimed at slowing the spread of the coronavirus, calling the widespread state orders keeping businesses closed and kids home from school a "mass casualty incident" with "exponentially growing health consequences."
The letter outlines a variety of consequences that the doctors have observed resulting from the coronavirus shutdowns, including patients missing routine checkups that could detect things like heart problems or cancer, increases in substance and alcohol abuse, and increases in financial instability that could lead to "poverty and financial uncertainty," which "is closely linked to poor health."
"We are alarmed at what appears to be the lack of consideration for the future health of our patients," the doctors say in their letter. "The downstream health effects are being massively under-estimated and under-reported. This is an order of magnitude error."
The letter continues: "The millions of casualties of a continued shutdown will be hiding in plain sight, but they will be called alcoholism, homelessness, suicide, heart attack, stroke, or kidney failure. In youths it will be called financial instability, unemployment, despair, drug addiction, unplanned pregnancies, poverty, and abuse.
"Because the harm is diffuse, there are those who hold that it does not exist. We, the undersigned, know otherwise."
"The very initial argument ... which sounded reasonable three months ago, is that in order to limit the overwhelmed patient flux into hospitals that would prevent adequate care, we needed to spread out the infections and thus the deaths in specific locales that could become hotspots, particularly New York City... It was a valid argument at the beginning based on the models that were given," McDonald said. "What we've seen now over the last three months is that no city -- none, zero -- outside of New York has even been significantly stressed."
McDonald is referring to the misconception that business closures and stay-at-home orders aimed at "flattening the curve" are meant to reduce the total number of people who will fall ill because of the coronavirus. Rather, these curve-flattening measures are meant largely to reduce the number of people who are sick at any given time, thus avoiding a surge in cases that overwhelms the health care system and causes otherwise preventable deaths because not all patients are able to access lifesaving critical care.
McDonald said that "hospitals are not only not overwhelmed, they're actually being shut down." He noted that at one hospital in the Los Angeles area where Dr. Simone Gold, the head organizer of the letter, works "the technicians in the ER have been cut by 50 percent."
Gold also said the effects of the shutdown are more serious for the vast majority of people than the potential virus spread if it is quickly lifted.
More than 600 doctors signed onto a letter sent to President Trump Tuesday pushing him to end the "national shutdown" aimed at slowing the spread of the coronavirus, calling the widespread state orders keeping businesses closed and kids home from school a "mass casualty incident" with "exponentially growing health consequences."
The letter outlines a variety of consequences that the doctors have observed resulting from the coronavirus shutdowns, including patients missing routine checkups that could detect things like heart problems or cancer, increases in substance and alcohol abuse, and increases in financial instability that could lead to "poverty and financial uncertainty," which "is closely linked to poor health."
"We are alarmed at what appears to be the lack of consideration for the future health of our patients," the doctors say in their letter. "The downstream health effects are being massively under-estimated and under-reported. This is an order of magnitude error."
The letter continues: "The millions of casualties of a continued shutdown will be hiding in plain sight, but they will be called alcoholism, homelessness, suicide, heart attack, stroke, or kidney failure. In youths it will be called financial instability, unemployment, despair, drug addiction, unplanned pregnancies, poverty, and abuse.
"Because the harm is diffuse, there are those who hold that it does not exist. We, the undersigned, know otherwise."
"The very initial argument ... which sounded reasonable three months ago, is that in order to limit the overwhelmed patient flux into hospitals that would prevent adequate care, we needed to spread out the infections and thus the deaths in specific locales that could become hotspots, particularly New York City... It was a valid argument at the beginning based on the models that were given," McDonald said. "What we've seen now over the last three months is that no city -- none, zero -- outside of New York has even been significantly stressed."
McDonald is referring to the misconception that business closures and stay-at-home orders aimed at "flattening the curve" are meant to reduce the total number of people who will fall ill because of the coronavirus. Rather, these curve-flattening measures are meant largely to reduce the number of people who are sick at any given time, thus avoiding a surge in cases that overwhelms the health care system and causes otherwise preventable deaths because not all patients are able to access lifesaving critical care.
McDonald said that "hospitals are not only not overwhelmed, they're actually being shut down." He noted that at one hospital in the Los Angeles area where Dr. Simone Gold, the head organizer of the letter, works "the technicians in the ER have been cut by 50 percent."
Gold also said the effects of the shutdown are more serious for the vast majority of people than the potential virus spread if it is quickly lifted.
You won't even wear a mask. I bet you are the type that tries to get close to people's personal space. If you will not take any steps at all to stop the spread, what besides a lockdown would work with folks like you?
PS, OAN is a right-wing POS kiss Trumps ass new feed that makes FOX news look like CNN's kid sister.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network
Its prime time political talk shows have a conservative perspective,[13][14][15] and the channel regularly features pro-Donald Trump stories.[13][16] The channel described itself as one of the "greatest supporters" of Trump.[17] Trump has repeatedly promoted the network.[5] The channel has been noted for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.
There you go but I know, Wikipedia FAKENEWS ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE YEAH, where's the hydroxychloroquine and my cheeseburger????
I know that malibuk is afraid of some of us so he might not be able to see this, but is there a source/link for this "letter"?
Malibuk his signature is just for show, it’s his way to feel special and pretend he has people on ignore but he’ll directly or indirectly respond to people’s posts, if not in this thread in other threads.
As for links he doesn’t provide links to majority of the copy and paste posts he makes anymore, since I called him out for posting false and misleading right wing but bar sources over and over, it all started with a false video from a bullshit artist and the looney tune Steve Deace and the spread of “Sweden success” propaganda.
Malibuk is hard at work spreading “Sweden success/open businesses now” nonsense every time he posts, he’ll even tell you data and facts do not matter in the fight against the Coronavirus just in an attempt to spin the narrative and support his views.
Surprise surprise this article is from fake fox & friends.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/do...lth-effects-of-continued-coronavirus-shutdown
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https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2018/10/wikipedia-the-george-soros-connection/
i don't trust sources funded by George Soros who admitted to stealing the properties of Jews in Nazi occupied Hungary
Russian Man doing the KGB's work with more false deceptions.
Of all the conspiracy theories spun around the 87-year-old Jewish billionaire George Soros - that he is the “puppet master” of all liberals, that he owns Black Lives Matter, that he is secretly building a new world order - the most demonstrably insane may be the claim that he was a Nazi.
That is: That the 14-year-old boy who had to hide from his own government during the German occupation of Hungary was a war criminal who sent his own people to gas chambers.
This particular strain of anti-Soros paranoia has festered for years on far-right message boards, but it suddenly metastasised to the feeds of Donald Trump Jr and tens of thousands beyond.
It is also claimed that Soros survived the German occupation of Budapest by becoming a Nazi “collaborator.” Fox News pundit Glenn Beck alleged in November 2010, for example, that the 14-year-old Soros “help[ed] the government confiscate the lands of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors,” and, worse (in Beck’s view), was unrepentant about it.
For facts about this hoax there is a detailed fact based details at
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/
Of all the conspiracy theories spun around the 87-year-old Jewish billionaire George Soros - that he is the “puppet master” of all liberals, that he owns Black Lives Matter, that he is secretly building a new world order - the most demonstrably insane may be the claim that he was a Nazi.
That is: That the 14-year-old boy who had to hide from his own government during the German occupation of Hungary was a war criminal who sent his own people to gas chambers.
This particular strain of anti-Soros paranoia has festered for years on far-right message boards, but it suddenly metastasised to the feeds of Donald Trump Jr and tens of thousands beyond.
It is also claimed that Soros survived the German occupation of Budapest by becoming a Nazi “collaborator.” Fox News pundit Glenn Beck alleged in November 2010, for example, that the 14-year-old Soros “help[ed] the government confiscate the lands of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors,” and, worse (in Beck’s view), was unrepentant about it.
For facts about this hoax there is a detailed fact based details at
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/
here on tv he said he had no regrets when he had an "uncle" both he and him stealing properties from Jews and having no regrets
In these excerpts from a buried 60 minutes interview George Soros explains that "I am there to make money. I cannot and do not look at the social consequences of what I do." He also describes his experiences at age 14 with his Jewish identity hidden in Nazi Germany, where he helped to confiscate property from other Jews. In tapes and video here Soros describes this as "one of the happiest times" of his life… "a very happy making exhilarating experience…"
.....Sometimes, a good rant is all a writer can offer. Bear with me.
Last Friday morning, some 3,500 New Yorkers lined up at a Catholic church in Queens to receive free food hours before it even opened, **according to the New York Police Department. Catholic Charities has reported a 200 percent increase in demand over the past month and a half.
By prolonging the coronavirus shutdown long after its core mission was accomplished, Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio have plunged tens of thousands of New Yorkers into poverty.
It needs to end. Now.
In mid-March, we were told we have to endure a lockdown to ensure that hospitals didn’t get overrun. We did. The hospitals were not overwhelmed. We turned the Javits Center into a hospital. We didn’t need it. We brought in a giant Navy ship to treat New Yorkers. We didn’t need it.
We were told we were moments away from running out of ventilators. We weren’t, and now the United States has built so many, we are giving them away to other countries.
Meanwhile, the Big Apple is **dying. Its streets are empty. The bars and jazz clubs, restaurants and coffeehouses sit barren. Beloved haunts, storied rooms, perfect-slice joints are shuttered, many for good. The sweat equity of countless small-business owners is evaporating. **Instead of getting people back to work providing for their families, our mayor talks about a fantasyland New Deal for the post-coronavirus era.
Open the city. All of it. Right now. Broadway shows, beaches, Yankees games, the schools, the top of the freakin’ Empire State building. Everything. New Yorkers have already learned to socially distance. Businesses can adjust. The elderly and infirm can continue to be isolated.
For two months, we have waited for Cuomo and de Blasio to tell us how this ends. Where is ex-Mayor Michael Bloomberg with his alleged army of tracers that the governor told us was the key to reopening? And why did he hand that responsibility over to Bloomberg, whom **nobody elected anyway?
What the hell is going on? Is anybody in charge of this situation? Or are we just left with the governor and his talking-head brother **arguing on CNN about which of the two Ma loves best? (Who cares?)
In late April, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp defied experts by opening his state. The Atlantic magazine, once a serious publication that should now come with a stick of stale bubblegum, accused him of engaging in “human sacrifice.”
You want to guess what happened? Guess, come on, take a guess. Instead of the predicted spike in deaths, the number of cases of coronavirus and associated deaths declined.
We should always consider that we are led by idiots, as one of my friends likes to remind me. Cuomo and de Blasio have no plan. There is not a single question about when New York can get back to normal to which they have a straight **answer. Not one. They cash their taxpayer paychecks while immiserating the rest of us.
If our elected leaders won’t save the world’s greatest city from a slow death by economic strangulation, then the people of New York must do it themselves. Barbers, tailors, nail **salons, sporting goods stores, movie theaters and others should open their doors — while maintaining social distancing, of course — and dare the state to shut them down.
Our politicians serve by our consent; we don’t run our businesses or live our lives by their consent. The suggestion to the contrary is an **affront to Americanism.
It has been a long time since this country, let alone this city, really had to deal with the prospect of mass starvation. This isn’t about the stock market — it’s about parents putting their kids to bed hungry and hoping tomorrow there will be something for them to eat if they get up at 4:30 a.m. and get in line at the food bank.
We did what we were asked. We flattened the freakin’ curve. There is no longer any reasonable justification for the government to deprive us of our livelihoods. And our rights aren’t the government’s to grant or take away. They belong to us — the free grant of nature and the God of nature. We’re Americans. More than that: New Yorkers, goddammit.
David Marcus is The Federalist’s New York correspondent. Twitter: @BlueBoxDave
https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/end-new-york-citys-lockdown-now/
There is a lag between the "opening up" and the spike in cases, then a lag between cases and a spike in deaths a week or two after that. Also some states now suppressing information on the number of cases (e.g., Florida). Montgomery Alabama now out of ICU beds.
I'm hoping this gets milder and not many die. I'm hoping to get back to normal asap. But valid information is essential, but too many bad actors now mucking that up.
Open up business then lie your arses off about the implications for health may be a strategy, but its a third world petty dictator style of an approach unworthy of 21st century science or democracy.
Come out and say "We gotta open up, and unfortunately 100,000 (or whatever the epidemiological models suggest) are going to have to die, particularly if you are old, or fat, or diabetic.". Own it.
I'm hoping this gets milder and not many die. I'm hoping to get back to normal asap. But valid information is essential, but too many bad actors now mucking that up.
Open up business then lie your arses off about the implications for health may be a strategy, but its a third world petty dictator style of an approach unworthy of 21st century science or democracy.
Come out and say "We gotta open up, and unfortunately 100,000 (or whatever the epidemiological models suggest) are going to have to die, particularly if you are old, or fat, or diabetic.". Own it.
Because Kemp has been caught lying about the data, the AJC has started its own dashboard with clearer explanations of what it is using to build it.
https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-georgia-covid-dashboard/jvoLBozRtBSVSNQDDAuZxH/
https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-georgia-covid-dashboard/jvoLBozRtBSVSNQDDAuZxH/
Oh NO!!!
What will the Amigo's do if Dougy goes completely libtard LOL
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/sta...-so-far-shutting-the-province-down-again.html
What will the Amigo's do if Dougy goes completely libtard LOL
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/sta...-so-far-shutting-the-province-down-again.html
business types are mostly Dougie supporters and voters. he is not dumb enough to lockdown again pissing off his base
He sure seems to be well entrenched with those listening to science right now.
