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Moviefan-2

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No, it was 'recognition of Israel', not stating that Israel was a racist state for the Jewish people.
So you're saying Abbas wasn't promoting a two-state solution, after all. That confirms that Erekat's comments were nonsense.

Seventy years after the Jewish state was first created, every rational Palestinian knows it's here to stay. As for the Palestinian leaders and other Palestinians who are too stupid and/or racist to accept that reality, it's become impossible to feel sorry for them.

If they insist on maintaining the status quo, so be it. They're only hurting themselves.
 

Frankfooter

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So you're saying Abbas wasn't promoting a two-state solution, after all.
No, I was stating that Abbas and Palestinians have recognized Israels right to exist.
There is no need for them to recognize whether or not Israel is a racist 'Jewish' state as well.

More news in the Gaza death camp.
Hospitals are closing down due to the blockade and lack of fuel in Gaza.
Gaza hospitals shut down as deadly siege tightens
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/gaza-hospitals-shut-down-deadly-siege-tightens
 

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And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.
 

Frankfooter

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And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.
Both Hamas and Abbas have both said they would accept the two state solution, which includes 'allowing' Israel to exist.
Will Israel recognize Palestine ever?
 

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And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.
 

Moviefan-2

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There is no need for them to recognize whether or not Israel is a racist 'Jewish' state as well.
Both Hamas and Abbas have both said they would accept the two state solution, which includes 'allowing' Israel to exist.
Frankfooter's Festival of Contradictions continues.

In fact, the Palestinians do need to recognize Israel's status as a Jewish state if they want to promote a two-state solution. Without it, there is no two-state solution. Period.

Furthermore, anyone who really thinks Saudi Arabia and others in the Middle East would trust an Israel run by the so-called Palestinian "refugees" to protect them from Iran is completely delusional. The so-called "refugees" can't even govern themselves, and when they had the opportunity to create economic prosperity in the Gaza strip, they made a total mess of it.

The Jewish state is here to stay. If the Palestinians want to acquire their own sovereign state, they must acknowledge that reality.
 

Frankfooter

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Frankfooter's Festival of Contradictions continues.

In fact, the Palestinians do need to recognize Israel's status as a Jewish state if they want to promote a two-state solution. Without it, there is no two-state solution. Period.
So Phil now says he supports Israeli apartheid.
And now you, moviefan, are joining in by saying you support Israel as an 'ethno state', not as a democracy.

Thanks, guys, for making my points for me.
 

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And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.

Makes all arguments stating that Palestine government(s) are willing to accept a two state solution, with Israel existing as one of the states,... are LIES.
 

Frankfooter

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And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.

Makes all arguments stating that Palestine government(s) are willing to accept a two state solution, with Israel existing as one of the states,... are LIES.
You're still looking for confirmation on Israel as an 'ethnostate'?
You probably won't find the Palestinians supporting that, but there are plenty of supporters of Israel as an ethnostate and its ramifications.

You should start with the other extreme right wingers and 'make america white again' crowd.
Richard Spencer is a big fan of Israel as an ethnostate, course he's an antisemite, but hey, at least he supports the 'Jewish' state.
http://fpif.org/israels-new-admirers-white-nationalist-right/

There are now a number of the 'make america white again' supporters running for office in the states.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/alarm-white-supremacist-candidates-180207165333394.html
That's a whole crowd of anti-semites who back Israel as the 'Jewish' state.

And in Austria there's a bunch of neo-nazis who love Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-au...-far-right-faction-forces-israel-into-corner/
Apparently Netanyahu's party likes them, they're going to meet up.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/likud-mk-to-meet-austrian-far-right-freedom-party-boss/

Oh, and don't forget the AfD in Germany, they may also be neo-nazis hated by Germany's Jews, but they love Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/loathed-by-jews-germanys-far-right-afd-loves-the-jewish-state/

Why is this happening?
http://therealnews.com/t2/story:20302:Why-do-Far-Right-White-Nationalists-Support-Zionism?

Does that answer your question, FAST?
 

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And not expected,...

And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.

Makes all arguments stating that Palestine government(s) are willing to accept a two state solution, with Israel existing as one of the states,... are LIES.
 

Frankfooter

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And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.

Makes all arguments stating that Palestine government(s) are willing to accept a two state solution, with Israel existing as one of the states,... are LIES.
Again, Palestinians have long said they would recognize Israel as a state.
So why do they need to recognize it as a racist ethno state?

The people really backing ethno states are these:

Richard Spencer is a big fan of Israel as an ethnostate, course he's an antisemite, but hey, at least he supports the 'Jewish' state.
http://fpif.org/israels-new-admirers-white-nationalist-right/

There are now a number of the 'make america white again' supporters running for office in the states.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/alarm-white-supremacist-candidates-180207165333394.html
That's a whole crowd of anti-semites who back Israel as the 'Jewish' state.

And in Austria there's a bunch of neo-nazis who love Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-au...-far-right-faction-forces-israel-into-corner/
Apparently Netanyahu's party likes them, they're going to meet up.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/likud-mk-to-meet-austrian-far-right-freedom-party-boss/

Oh, and don't forget the AfD in Germany, they may also be neo-nazis hated by Germany's Jews, but they love Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/loathed-by-jews-germanys-far-right-afd-loves-the-jewish-state/

Why is this happening?
http://therealnews.com/t2/story:20302:Why-do-Far-Right-White-Nationalists-Support-Zionism?

Does that answer your question, FAST?
 

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And still no statement from a Palestine government that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.

Makes all arguments stating that Palestine government(s) are willing to accept a two state solution, with Israel existing as one of the states,... are LIES.
 

Moviefan-2

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So Phil now says he supports Israeli apartheid.
And now you, moviefan, are joining in by saying you support Israel as an 'ethno state', not as a democracy.

Thanks, guys, for making my points for me.
I love how you keep trying to change the subject. Actually, I support Israel as it exists today -- a Jewish, democratic state.

Meanwhile, you have avoided the main points:

1) By refusing to endorse Israel's future as a Jewish state, the Palestinian leaders are rejecting the two-state solution.

2) The idea that Israel will someday be run by the so-called Palestinian "refugees" is a total fairy tale. Apart from what Israel and the U.S. might think, Saudi Arabia and many others in the Middle East will never back such insanity.

No rational person would put their own safety and the safety of their country in the hands of the "refugees."
 

basketcase

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Yet you have absolutely no problem with the Palestinians defining themselves as an Islamic state rule by Sharia.
No comment from fraudfooter I see.

I guess he thinks it's okay when Arabs define themselves as a religious state but finds it horrible when Jews hint at it.
 

basketcase

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You're still looking for confirmation on Israel as an 'ethnostate'?...
You've already confirmed your support of a religious based Palestinian state.


And more hypocrisy considering Fraudfooter repeatedly said he supports the UN Partition that explicitly described a Jewish State.
 

Frankfooter

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I love how you keep trying to change the subject. Actually, I support Israel as it exists today -- a Jewish, democratic state.
But its not, its an apartheid state where millions of Palestinians have no rights or votes.
Backing Israel as 'Jewish' state is like backing the Iranian theocracy of the Saudi theocracy.
So 18th century.
 

basketcase

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I don't back a religious based Palestine and Abbas has not said he'd run a religious based Palestine.
Get real.
Except the Palestinian Constitution that Abbas oversaw EXPLICITLY states Palestine is and Islamic State ruled on the principles of Sharia and your Hamas heroes state the same.

You are a complete fraud.
 

basketcase

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But its not, its an apartheid state where millions of Palestinians have no rights or votes.....
You mean Lebanon where generations of refugees who the UN says should have had the opportunity to be integrated have been locked in camps without right?

And I see that you inly listen to the UN when they say something bad about Israel. The official UN description of Israel at Partition was as a Jewish state.
 
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