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K Douglas

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Climate change is fuelling a decline in rice crop production in major growing regions
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/climate-change-arsenic-damage-rice-paddy-yield/

Yup.
You can't get faker fucking news than this. SMDH.

Climate change may cause a dramatic drop in rice production in major growing regions, a decline that could jeopardize critical food supplies, researchers report. New experiments exploring rice production in future climate conditions show rice yields could drop about 40% by 2100—with potentially devastating consequences in parts of the world that rely on the crop as a basic food source.
 

Frankfooter

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You can't get faker fucking news than this. SMDH.

Climate change may cause a dramatic drop in rice production in major growing regions, a decline that could jeopardize critical food supplies, researchers report. New experiments exploring rice production in future climate conditions show rice yields could drop about 40% by 2100—with potentially devastating consequences in parts of the world that rely on the crop as a basic food source.
Deny, deny, deny.
If that's all you got, I guess you gotta go with it.

Climate change is affecting crop yields and reducing global food supplies
http://theconversation.com/climate-...elds-and-reducing-global-food-supplies-118897


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...killing-thousands-of-years-indigenous-wisdom/
 

canada-man

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canada-man

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Now answer the questions

In the 7 years since 2012 CO2 has increased , however US temperature have declined. This is inconsistent with your premise and I want you to explain how this could happen
In the 3 years since 2016 CO2 has increased , however US temperature have declined. This is inconsistent with your premise and I want you to explain how this could happen

Seven years is certainly long enough to want to know why?
After all you are demanding we have to change .......... well everything, because you say CO2 is the control knob on climate
I think we are entitled to enquire when your all-knowing prediction does not work.
I think seven years is a quite reasonable amount of time ask, " Hey, why is it getting colder , CO2 increased past the all important 0.04% level, yet it is colder by 2.6 degrees celsius in the USA over the last seven years?"
It seems a very reasonable question for anyone to ask
It is as simple as that

Answer the questions
 

Frankfooter

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Now answer the questions

In the 7 years since 2012 CO2 has increased , however US temperature have declined. This is inconsistent with your premise and I want you to explain how this could happen
In the 3 years since 2016 CO2 has increased , however US temperature have declined. This is inconsistent with your premise and I want you to explain how this could happen

Seven years is certainly long enough to want to know why?
After all you are demanding we have to change .......... well everything, because you say CO2 is the control knob on climate
I think we are entitled to enquire when your all-knowing prediction does not work.
I think seven years is a quite reasonable amount of time ask, " Hey, why is it getting colder , CO2 increased past the all important 0.04% level, yet it is colder by 2.6 degrees celsius in the USA over the last seven years?"
It seems a very reasonable question for anyone to ask
It is as simple as that

Answer the questions
Now you think you're larue?
Larue appears to have finally learned what cherry picking is, do you think you can?

The larue claim is false, the US isn't warming, he just cherry picked two dates to make the numbers appear like that.
I had no idea you weren't even as bright as larue that you wouldn't be able to pick that up.

New study on Antarctic ice loss.

Our results suggest a 3.8 metre sea level rise during the first thousand years of a 2˚C warmer ocean. Most of the modelled sea level rise occurred after the loss of the ice shelves, which collapsed within the first two hundred years of higher temperatures.
https://www.juancole.com/2020/02/ancient-antarctic-extreme.html
 

JohnLarue

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Now you think you're larue?
Larue appears to have finally learned what cherry picking is, do you think you can?

The larue claim is false, the US isn't warming, he just cherry picked two dates to make the numbers appear like that.
I had no idea you weren't even as bright as larue that you wouldn't be able to pick that up.

New study on Antarctic ice loss.

Explain this
If you say "quoting the most recent average annual temperature for the USA (2019) as lower than 2012 & lower then 2016 while CO2 has risen" is cherry picking
Then how can your quoting a single data point (Antarctica record) temperature (a single point, esperanza station, 1840 miles from the pole) as proof positive of global warming, not also be cherry picking?


Once again you display your lack of any balanced or rational understanding of the subject & you display your need to spread propaganda without regard for logic
 

JohnLarue

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Now answer the questions

In the 7 years since 2012 CO2 has increased , however US temperature have declined. This is inconsistent with your premise and I want you to explain how this could happen
In the 3 years since 2016 CO2 has increased , however US temperature have declined. This is inconsistent with your premise and I want you to explain how this could happen

Seven years is certainly long enough to want to know why?
After all you are demanding we have to change .......... well everything, because you say CO2 is the control knob on climate
I think we are entitled to enquire when your all-knowing prediction does not work.
I think seven years is a quite reasonable amount of time ask, " Hey, why is it getting colder , CO2 increased past the all important 0.04% level, yet it is colder by 2.6 degrees celsius in the USA over the last seven years?"
It seems a very reasonable question for anyone to ask
It is as simple as that

Answer the questions
I really like your writing style
Just to be fair the 2.6 degrees C should have been 2.6 degrees F. My fault, my mistake
The result however is still significant
 

Frankfooter

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Explain this
If you say "quoting the most recent average annual temperature for the USA (2019) as lower than 2012 & lower then 2016 while CO2 has risen" is cherry picking
Then how can your quoting a single data point (Antarctica record) temperature (a single point, esperanza station, 1840 miles from the pole) as proof positive of global warming, not also be cherry picking?


Once again you display your lack of any balanced or rational understanding of the subject & you display your need to spread propaganda without regard for logic
Antarctica hitting record warm temperatures shows a continuing trend of warming, it is to be expected with the planet warming up. And yes, more useful is seeing a long term chart as is seeing long term glacier declines.
Long term trends are always more informative, as noted with the US temp increases that are very clearly happening and shown by the chart you posted.
What is very clear is that there is zero chance that the US temperatures are declining, as you claim.
Over the 6 years, the US temp has increased.
Over the last 10 years, the US temp has increased.
Over the last 20 years, the US temp has increased.
Same with 30 or 40 years.

The US is warming just like the rest of the planet.
 

Frankfooter

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I really like your writing style
Just to be fair the 2.6 degrees C should have been 2.6 degrees F. My fault, my mistake
The result however is still significant
The result is not significant.
All it shows is that you still don't understand what cherry picking data is, just as it took 10 posts for you to even be convinced you screwed up with your US temp claims.




 

canada-man

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The Guardian back in 1999


Spain will be ridden with malaria, the eastern Mediterranean will be as hot as the Sahara desert, flash floods will swamp parts of the American coastline and there will be almost no snow in the Alps.

This is the doomsday scenario painted in a new report on the effects of global warming on 10 of the planet's most popular tourist destinations in the next century.

The study, commissioned by the World Wild Fund for Nature, found that profitable tourist destinations could be turned into "holiday horror stories".

By 2020, visitors to the Costa del Sol could risk contracting malaria as global warming brings more frequent heatwaves, making the country a suitable habitat for malaria-bearing mosquitoes, while increases in summer temperatures to more than 40C (104F) could make parts of Turkey and Greece no-go areas in July and August.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/aug/30/jamiewilson
 

Frankfooter

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The Guardian back in 1999


Spain will be ridden with malaria, the eastern Mediterranean will be as hot as the Sahara desert, flash floods will swamp parts of the American coastline and there will be almost no snow in the Alps.

This is the doomsday scenario painted in a new report on the effects of global warming on 10 of the planet's most popular tourist destinations in the next century.

The study, commissioned by the World Wild Fund for Nature, found that profitable tourist destinations could be turned into "holiday horror stories".

By 2020, visitors to the Costa del Sol could risk contracting malaria
Spain: Doctors confirm locally-acquired malaria case in Madrid Feb. 28
https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news...ocally-acquired-malaria-case-in-madrid-feb-28
 

JohnLarue

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Antarctica hitting record warm temperatures shows a continuing trend of warming,
It is one data point , 1840 miles from the pole from a data record only 58 years long. The 1930s were pretty warm

Where as the 2019 USA temperature is an average of thousands of US weather stations over a whole year .
So it is the average of probably over 250,000 surface data measurements surface temperature data you have previously argued as beyond reproach

no the the only trend is here is the continued stream of your propaganda

it is to be expected with the planet warming up.
Too bad for you the US cooling off over the past 7 years was not at all expected and in fact is completely at odds with rising CO2
And it has not been explained


And yes, more useful is seeing a long term chart as is seeing long term glacier declines.
So a single data point is cheery picking or is it not? Antarctica hitting record warm temperatures is a single data point 1840 miles from the south pole
Your view appears to be that your single data points are Ok, but any evidence supporting an opposing view is cherry picking
The reality is you do not have a rational explanation for the US temp decline, so you claim cherry picking

Long term trends are always more informative, as noted with the US temp increases that are very clearly happening and shown by the chart you posted.
The why do you ignore the long term trends of multiple ice ages , the roman warming period & the medieval warming period (ie natural climate variability) ?
Because it is inconvenient and does not fit the propaganda. Thats is why


What is very clear is that there is zero chance that the US temperatures are declining, as you claim.
Over the 6 years, the US temp has increased.
But decreased over 7 years
Over the last 10 years, the US temp has increased.
Over the last 20 years, the US temp has increased.
Same with 30 or 40 years.
What about 800 years or 1800 years. Those would be long term trends

The US is warming just like the rest of the planet.
It has cooled off in the USA the past 7 years and that should not have happened if CO2 is the control knob for climate

As of the end of 2019
South America also looks like its cooled off since 2015
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/southAmerica/land/12/12/1980-2020

Asia does not look like it has warmed up since 2015, despite all the CO2 they are generating (Co2 get uniformly distributed pretty quick though)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/asia/land/12/12/1980-2020

Asia is big chuck of the planet

North America is down from 2016
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/nhem/land/12/12/1980-2020

The Gulf of mexico looks a tad cooler since 2016
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/gulfOfMexico/land_ocean/12/12/1980-2020

Grettaland (Europe) does show a slight upward trend since 2014 (if you call 0.07 F a warming trend

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/europe/land/12/12/1980-2020

Oceania has also warmed a little in 2019 over the past six years. no doubt some warming caused by the Australian bush fires
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/oceania/land/12/12/1980-2020


odd how Gavin Schmidt claimed 2019 was the second warmest year on record, yet failed to mention North & South America & Asia show no warming or even cooling over the last few years
Any rational explanation that does not use the words "Cherry Picking"? This should not have happened if Co2 is the control knob on climate
 

JohnLarue

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Spain: Doctors confirm locally-acquired malaria case in Madrid Feb. 28
https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news...ocally-acquired-malaria-case-in-madrid-feb-28
Costa del Sol is 625 KM from Madrid

From your own article
On Wednesday, February 28, doctors confirmed a locally-acquired case of malaria in Madrid. According to the University Hospital of Móstoles, the patient, a 3-month old infant who had not traveled to a malaria-affected area, is thought to have acquired the virus in the city.

You just post & post & post & hope some of the BS sticks don't ya
 

K Douglas

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JohnLarue

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Deny, deny, deny.
If that's all you got, I guess you gotta go with it.

Climate change is affecting crop yields and reducing global food supplies
https://www.google.ca/search?source...0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0i10.8vWzAME7zxs
https://apps.fas.usda.gov/psdonline/circulars/production.pdf
world crop production statistics

Area is estimated at a record 36.9 million hectares (mha), unchanged from last month and up 1 mha (3 percent) from last year. Yield is estimated at 3.39 tons per hectare, up 2 percent from last month, up 4 percent from last year and up 6 percent from the 5-year average.

https://ourworldindata.org/crop-yields


Try shutting down fossil fuel production and you sure as shit will see reduced food supplies

https://industrialprogress.com/fossil-fuels-are-the-food-of-food/

Fossil Fuels Are The Food Of Food
We all know that fossil fuels power our machines. Often overlooked however is the vital role they play in powering humans, as the food we eat is made possible by fossil fuels.
And according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, it is fossil fuels that feed the modern mechanized agricultural industry: the “dominant share of direct energy use on U.S. farms is fuels (including diesel and gasoline) to run machinery for field operations such as planting, tilling, and harvesting; to dry crops; for livestock use; and to transport goods.”

Supplying “water can also be an energy-intensive task,” the EIA adds. Fossil fuel-powered modern irrigation has limited our reliance on nature to rain water down on crops. Today, the electricity to power water pumps, filtration, and treatment systems, is inexpensive and abundant, thanks to coal- and natural gas-fired central power stations; while more rural settings can depend upon water pumps powered by diesel or propane generators. This ability to pump water vast distances created the opportunity for a wider variety of cropping alternatives, reduces frost damage, and has led to higher yields with increased drought protection.
Shutting down fossil fuels without a reliable replacement will be a disaster and starve millions maybe billions of people to death
Have they developed a solar powered combine yet or do you plan on placing massive charging stations on every farm in the world & running electric combines, tractors and harvesters ?
 

Frankfooter

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It is one data point , 1840 miles from the pole from a data record only 58 years long. The 1930s were pretty warm

Where as the 2019 USA temperature is an average of thousands of US weather stations over a whole year .
Wrong again, mr science.
You picked one data point from a chart, all charts mentioned here use multiple measurements to get those points.
You still picked an El Nino, record warm, year as your measurement.
That, my dishonest friend, is cherry picking data.




The reality is you do not have a rational explanation for the US temp decline, so you claim cherry picking
The reality is you picked a single El Nino event, record warm year to measure from.
There is no decline in US temperatures, you're bullshitting.





But decreased over 7 years
Cherry picking, when one doesn't use your choice of warm US years you also get this from the same chart.
Over the last 10 years, the US temp has increased.
Over the last 20 years, the US temp has increased.
Same with 30 or 40 years.
You are cherry picking.


What about 800 years or 1800 years. Those would be long term trends
Go grab the US charts for those temps then.

It has cooled off in the USA the past 7 years and that should not have happened if CO2 is the control knob for climate
It has not, you are lying based off of your cherry picking.

As of the end of 2019
South America also looks like its cooled off since 2015
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/southAmerica/land/12/12/1980-2020

Asia does not look like it has warmed up since 2015, despite all the CO2 they are generating (Co2 get uniformly distributed pretty quick though)
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/asia/land/12/12/1980-2020

Asia is big chuck of the planet

North America is down from 2016
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/nhem/land/12/12/1980-2020

The Gulf of mexico looks a tad cooler since 2016
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/gulfOfMexico/land_ocean/12/12/1980-2020

Grettaland (Europe) does show a slight upward trend since 2014 (if you call 0.07 F a warming trend

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/europe/land/12/12/1980-2020

Oceania has also warmed a little in 2019 over the past six years. no doubt some warming caused by the Australian bush fires
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/global/time-series/oceania/land/12/12/1980-2020


odd how Gavin Schmidt claimed 2019 was the second warmest year on record, yet failed to mention North & South America & Asia show no warming or even cooling over the last few years
Any rational explanation that does not use the words "Cherry Picking"? This should not have happened if Co2 is the control knob on climate
The planet is warming, rather than show how ignorant your claims are lets just go back to the global temperatures.
You really think this chart shows that the planet is now cooling?
That's moronic.



 

Frankfooter

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Costa del Sol is 625 KM from Madrid

From your own article
On Wednesday, February 28, doctors confirmed a locally-acquired case of malaria in Madrid. According to the University Hospital of Móstoles, the patient, a 3-month old infant who had not traveled to a malaria-affected area, is thought to have acquired the virus in the city.

You just post & post & post & hope some of the BS sticks don't ya
CM posted that it was ridiculous to claim malaria would hit Spain.
Malaria hit Spain.
 
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