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Ricflairjuniour retiring

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I've recently come across information about the Ottawa SP scene (which has been thoroughly corroborated), involving certain escorts in particular, as a result of which I can't continue to contribute to this board. With the exception of one SP (Monique) and one MA (Jasmin) who I can trust, I'm putting an end to my hobbying as well. My forays into the escort world were very limited to begin with and virtually non-existent as regards MAs. No need to get into specifics as that wouldn't serve any purpose but suffice it to say that (and I'm talking strictly about certain Ottawa based escorts) the scene is manipulated by a very small number of predators, who move from girl to girl, often befriend them as "boyfriends", before the "relationship" quickly degenerates into physical abuse, emotional and financial manipulation and taking complete control of their lives. The predators come on the board to post false reviews, and plant lies, either on SPs who've gone their own way or have fallen out of line. They will post the occassional review or comment to gain credibility on the board. What has stirred me is that the naive view that I held that we're somehow helping an SP save for college, IT school, go through university and build a future, etc. (although true in some cases) is just as often false. Escorts are recruited in strip clubs and are taken in by the predators' flashy stay-up-all-night and party lifestyle before waking up some day and finding they're in an abusive relationship with limited means to get out. Earnings are paid over to the "boyfriends", girls are beaten up when they're given negative reviews (think twice about posting negative reviews and choose your words wisely !), and they're plied with alcohol and drugs. The Ottawa scene is dirtier, more vicious, dangerous and corrupt than I ever could have imagined (again, I'm talking about a certain number of local SPs). So, though I may in the future still come on the board out of curiousity, I will no longer post, and only occassionally see the SP and MA I've mentioned, who I feel I can trust. You may feel that I've maligned Ottawa SPs in general. Unfortunately I can't avoid that because I can't and won't get into specifics. But I couldn't in good conscience leave without making a general comment, in the hope that it may make others take a certain perspective on what's currently going on in Ottawa. Please no PMs. Good luck.
 
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Jasmin,
You're absolutely right. Oops. Typo has been fixed. There was no suggestion intended whatsoever that you provide anything but an above the board MA experience -- and with the ultimate in class, discretion and professionalism to boot !
 

dabosss

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RFJ, i'm with ya! i've been disillusisoned and had my trust betrayed as well. The SP scene in this city is so corrupt and messed up. While you and I may not have seen eye to eye from time to time, I respected your posts for being honest and straight forward. This is a short lived hobby, any one who sticks in it for to long will only become part of the corruption. Thanks boys for sharring info and best of luck out there. Dabosss has left the building as well.
 

antlerman

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Wow!

Though I have onlybeen here a short time and have only posted a few items I have read alot of posts listed on this site.
I have been very careful and have taken alot of this with a grain of salt.
But what stands out are Rick's posts. They have been outstanding.
it will be a great loss to this board I feel.
All the best and stay safe Rick.
 

BuckJones

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Sorry to hear you're leaving the board Ric, I'm going to miss your posts as well.
Take care of yourself man.
 

Frankfurt

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Jasmin_MA said:
No harm done but I just don't want anyone, not even for a second, to think that I am an SP.
Thanks for bursting my bubble Jas! I thought there was always hope!

Can I still pretend, though, while I'm receiving that oh so great massage (not to mention the mind blowing release), that some day, maybe some day, you'll invite me into your bedroom?

With love and kisses. :D
 

Mable

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Very interesting thread. Wish I knew more. Personally, I do not see local sp's and so have no real feel for this so called corruption. When I started this hobby I saw some girls in the Sun. They were predominantly welfare people looking to pic up some cash. One had even just purchased a top of the line Cadillac with her takings! Most were just desperate little girls looking to survive. No pros here. So I stopped until I found the Internet and, more particularly, the Montreal ladies who I find to be spectacular. Although I have not seen Alexa Taylor, she does not seem the type to fit into Rics' classification. I am wondering what other sp's are out there. When I look at Escorts Canada it is all the same old, same old, other than the girls from Montreal. Personally, I have never been with someone who did not at least appear to be doing this totally voluntarily. Some, just in it for the money. Some loving every minute of it. But never under duress or abuse. I realize that this is a self serving statement but I do consider myself an astute intuitive person. As such I think I would have noticed. I do not know what sources Ric has. Just hope they are not corrupt themselves and, if this is true, that the girls can get out.
 

antlerman

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class till the end

ricflairjuniour said:
Jasmin, thanks for the kind words. I said it before and I'll say it again. You're hot and you're classy.

Yes, this man has class. He does not go down in flames but goes down with grace.
His words even to the end are true.

If this is sounding like an obituary....sorry.

But people like your self, and of course Jasmin, are few and far between.
 

Mable

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Just wondering why not expose the call signs of these predators. If the girls know this is happening it seems to me that they also know the call signs. Just a thought.
 

gfelookout

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I guess Rics posting has made me wonder what actual dangers are out there in the Ottawa SP scene. Are we talking about Ottawa Sun SPs or not. I have always wondered which of the SPs advertising in this city actually have a head on their shoulders, truly enjoy what they do with safety and are managing their window of opportunity and doing this for themselves and nobody else. There must be and I believe there are a few who are in this category. I assume Jasmine and Monique are 2 of these. Are there more and who are they. Can they be those on EC, on the internet, the Ottawa Sun. Obviously Ric encountered or was confronted with something very dangerous and scary .. I guess we can only imagine some of the things going on in this city with SPs - one cannot help but feel for the SPs who are trying to make something of a life.
 

JoyfulC

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That is an advantage to dealing with mature (like at least mid-20s), educated, independent escorts -- you know for sure that no one is taking advantage of us.

I'm a bit shocked, though. I've never actually witnessed anything like what Ric describes here in Ottawa. Might be the circles I run in, though. We hear about this sort of thing -- and maybe it exists in every major city. I'm not sure what we can do about it, though. Maybe getting to younger escorts early in the game, and helping them to recognize and sidestep predatory behaviours. The trouble is that new escorts entering the business rarely have decent mentors, and there's really no where for them to go to get this kind of education.

There is a lot of other stuff that new escorts often end up finding out the hard way -- like customers who run scams on them, dealing with stalkers, etc. One thing I hope that the customers here respect is that virtually all escorts get their education at the School of Hard Knocks.

..c..
 

laidbackdude

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I got to know very well an independent escort here in Ottawa, intelligent and well educated. We became friends and she ran her "business" well and only met with gentlemen whom she knew and things are going very well for her. Not all escorts are victims of others, but I would encourage independents before agencies for sure.
 

luvdancers

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JoyfulC said:
I'm a bit shocked, though. I've never actually witnessed anything like what Ric describes here in Ottawa.
I did not realize how prevalent it apparently is, in the escort scene, until now. But it's unfortunately a plague among dancers in strip clubs, so common it's depressing and so simple to accomplish (on the part of the controllers) it is almost unbelievable. Very few dancers who stay in the business until their late 20s or beyond have not experienced it in some form.

In come cases it's a one-off deal, a boyfriend who drains the joint bank account (or more likely stash) and disappears with the new luxury car. In other cases it's a multi-year program of mind control that takes a girl who might not even have been in the biz, into dancing, then even into porn videos or escorting. Any dancer who knows you enough to be honest, will tell you about the girls in the changing room late on a quiet night shift, sobbing into their mobile phones "I'm sorry, baby, it's slow, y'know?" Baby is probably at the Casino, or at another club already recruiting the next victim.

Sorry to see you exiting, Ric. Take care.
 

scubadoo

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I don;t think any of us who hobby didn't realize that there is a darker side to this industry no matter what city you hobby in. Let us hope the ladies who need help get it!
 

Spode

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YAAAWWWWNNNN!!! :cool:
 

alex6

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Guys generally I never post on SP topics but in this case I feel I must.

Spode - I know you had a run in or two with Ricflairjuniour and he claimed to have smoked you but the issues he's raised are serious ones involving alleged violence and corruption in the Ottawa area. Please put your personal matters aside and don't make light of these issues.

Violence and corruption in the Ottawa area does exist.
 

Spode

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alex6 said:
Guys generally I never post on SP topics but in this case I feel I must.

Spode - I know you had a run in or two with Ricflairjuniour and he claimed to have smoked you but the issues he's raised are serious ones involving alleged violence and corruption in the Ottawa area. Please put your personal matters aside and don't make light of these issues.

Violence and corruption in the Ottawa area does exist.
Ricki are you telling fibs again.
 
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