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Will the U.S. Riots Hurt Trump in November?

  • The riots will help Trump.

    Votes: 13 52.0%

  • The riots will hurt Trump.

    Votes: 8 32.0%

  • The riots will not change many voter's minds either way.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .
WyattEarp

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Just curious to see how people think the recent events will play out in the November election. I myself think it will help him slightly particularly in the battleground states. I think Minnesota might be in play. California and New York state could increase their margin for Democrats.

Do me a favor stick to the riots impact on the election. Don't turn this thread as a place to voice your personal displeasure with Trump or your disdain for the United States. (Frank, I see you at your keyboard ginned up to post a non sequiter.) We have plenty of threads for those discussions already.

I'm only interested in your opinion on how the American voters will react to the recent riots. I'm not interested in how you think they should vote.
 
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I am sure the riots will be of tremendous help to Trump.
 
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It won't be just the riots it will be all the stupid things he done on a daily bases, he's toast come November.
 
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danmand

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The protests will hurt him, the riots will help him.

Most people will remember the riots.
 
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Most Americans sympathize with protests, disapprove of Trump's response - Reuters/Ipsos:

A majority of Americans sympathize with nationwide protests over the death of an unarmed black man in police custody and disapprove of President Donald Trump’s response to the unrest, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

The survey conducted on Monday and Tuesday found 64% of American adults were “sympathetic to people who are out protesting right now,” while 27% said they were not and 9% were unsure.

More than 55% of Americans said they disapproved of Trump’s handling of the protests, including 40% who “strongly” disapproved, while just one-third said they approved - lower than his overall job approval of 39%, the poll showed.

A separate Reuters/Ipsos poll found that Biden’s lead over Trump among registered voters expanded to 10 percentage points - the biggest margin since the former vice president became his party’s presumptive nominee in early April.

Twice as many independent voters said they disapproved of Trump’s response to the unrest. (I want to add that Butler who is purportedly an Independent of course Approves of Trump's response).
Even among Republicans, only 67% said they approved of the way he had responded, significantly lower than the 82% who liked his overall job performance.

Forty-seven percent of registered voters said they planned to support Biden in the Nov. 3 election, compared with 37% favoring Trump. Biden vowed not to “fan the flames of hate” in a speech on Tuesday about the unrest.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...f-trumps-response-reuters-ipsos-idUSKBN239347

In other words if an election were held today then :

TRUMP WOULD BE TOAST!!
 
The Oracle

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I can't see Trump winning at this time. It would take something really big to turn the momentum his way.

And there's no way the media is going to let that happen. Everyone is lining up against him.
 
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The riots themselves (and the fox news stories that suggest the protests are all riots) will help Trump with his base. At the same time, the renewed focus on inequality and Trump's comments on protests will hurt Trump with those in the democratic base.
 
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This year is such a cluster fuck of events (may you live in interesting times indeed) I can't really see a historical parallel.

Is it 64? 68?

I'm not ready to make a call because I don't think these protests have played out yet. If the rioting ends but the protests continue and grow Trump is going to get hurt.

Especially if the police and authorities continue to crack down.

I will add Trump has shown his lack of crisis management and leadership in this. Independents have noticed. The question is where their vote goes, on if they stay home.
 
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Trump is already backing down on calls to bring in the army.
The bible stunt only worked for religious wackos, everyone else was shocked he'd teargas people for a photo op.

He has yet to offer anything but brute force, he won't listen to the protesters and he won't back down.

Now he's 10 points behind Biden and behind in all the swing states.
64% of Americans support the protesters.
 
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Kathleen said:
That's an excellent way of separating things, and I agree only if Trump does nothing.

Don't just listen to Protesters, do something that matters. At the very least, pass a law that states no officer may use a body part / obstruct the airway, or choke a person.
Just doing that alone well prevent another murder like George Floyd.
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Trump won't do anything that he thinks would make him look weak.
Like listening or even pretending change.

 
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No idea. I don't buy into polls. Some say Biden leading, some say Trump leading. Polls don't matter.

But if they start doing more construction at the White House, like expanding the bunker, then Trump must like his chances.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Trump is already backing down on calls to bring in the army.
The bible stunt only worked for religious wackos, everyone else was shocked he'd teargas people for a photo op.

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But Trump says it wasn't tear gas (even if the CDC considers pepper balls to be in the tear gas category).

He also says that he didn't tell them to remove protesters, just that he wanted to go for a walk. How was he supposed to know there were protesters outside? The bunker doesn't have windows for him to look out of.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Trump is already backing down on calls to bring in the army.
The bible stunt only worked for religious wackos, everyone else was shocked he'd teargas people for a photo op.

He has yet to offer anything but brute force, he won't listen to the protesters and he won't back down.

Now he's 10 points behind Biden and behind in all the swing states.
64% of Americans support the protesters.
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Trump admin NEVER tear gassed the RIOTERS before the photo op. https://youtu.be/rEyU1eEMNz0
 
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Kathleen said:
That's an excellent way of separating things, and I agree only if Trump does nothing.

Don't just listen to Protesters, do something that matters. At the very least, pass a law that states no officer may use a body part / obstruct the airway, or choke a person.
Just doing that alone well prevent another murder like George Floyd.
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The State of Minnesota is at least now going after the Minneapolis Police Dept. and possibly the Police Union could be pulled into it. I didn't fact-check it, but someone posted that the Union was sponsoring military training for its members against the desire of the city. That's fucked up.
 
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The riots will only hurt Trump if he doesn't get them under control. White folks don't want their property looted by blacks, and they do most of the voting. Most want law and order to return. Sympathy for black victims of police brutality only goes so far.
 
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Butler1000 said:
This year is such a cluster fuck of events (may you live in interesting times indeed) I can't really see a historical parallel.

Is it 64? 68?

I'm not ready to make a call because I don't think these protests have played out yet. If the rioting ends but the protests continue and grow Trump is going to get hurt.

Especially if the police and authorities continue to crack down.

I will add Trump has shown his lack of crisis management and leadership in this. Independents have noticed. The question is where their vote goes, on if they stay home.
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Good points. A lot depends how Trump and Biden deftly handle the crisis. Trump can easily look clumsy and high-handed. Biden has to be sensitive without looking soft on looting and violence.

I agree Trump hasn't shown great crisis management skills. It's a difficult role because there a lot of unhappy people no matter how you deal with the crisis. Obama didn't exactly do a lot or show a lot of great leadership in these situations. It's a no win situation.
 
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jerimander said:
The riots will only hurt Trump if he doesn't get them under control. White folks don't want their property looted by blacks, and they do most of the voting. Most want law and order to return. Sympathy for black victims of police brutality only goes so far.
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Trump does not have to do anything, and will not. The cities will soon get this under control, and everything will go back to normal. Until next time.
 
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