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Will the U.S. Riots Hurt Trump in November?

  • The riots will help Trump.

    Votes: 13 52.0%

  • The riots will hurt Trump.

    Votes: 8 32.0%

  • The riots will not change many voter's minds either way.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .
WyattEarp

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Kathleen said:
It will certainly help Trump.

Sticking only on the topic of the riots, these things are going to help Trump.

1. Economy - The economy was doing amazing before COVID. Citizens in riot effected cities were just starting to re-open, and many now have lost everything.
Nobody can blame either the virus or riots on Trump. But they can count on him to rebuild the economy again if given the chance.

2. Riot cities - Minneapolis, Atlanta, Chicago, Brooklyn, NYC, Oakland, Detroit, Oakland, Portland, Richmond, and San Jose are all experiencing riots. All these cities also have Democratic mayors.
Hard working people are losing their businesses, their homes, and in some cases their lives. Why do these cities not use every element they can to stop these looters/rioters?
Why is no Mayor suddenly talking about the fear of a new pandemic in their respective city, as thousands swarm the streets?

3. Police - The murder of George Floyd is horrible, and must be dealt with. But these riots are generating hate and violence on all Police as a result. If not diffused, an incident like the 2016 shooting of Dallas police officers is only a matter of time. Trump has always had praise for law enforcement, I think he can help remind people, that though not always perfect, most of them risk their lives daily for our safety.
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There's an interesting political play starting to take shape and that's the Blue States/Blue Cities have been mismanaging their economies. COVID, the riots, etc. It's not all Democrats fault. A lot of how this plays out will depend on how states like Texas, Florida and Georgia rebound economically. It's very uncertain.
 
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J.A. Prufrock said:
No idea. I don't buy into polls. Some say Biden leading, some say Trump leading. Polls don't matter.

But if they start doing more construction at the White House, like expanding the bunker, then Trump must like his chances.
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This is also a response to bver_hunter above. Polls are not very good at measuring sentiment in a very fluid situation. Polling words like "sympathetic" don't measure sentiment very well. I am sympathetic for many of the people protesting, but how does that translate politically.

You also have the Trump guilt effect heaped on by the media. The riots are going to make this even more difficult for pollsters.

This is only an anecdote. My neighbor watches CNN and MSNBC. He decided over the last few years that he is anti-Trump. However, he is terrified of the protests. He will say he is voting for Biden publicly, but I think he will secretly vote for Trump. His personal reaction to the protests (looting and violence actually) tells more than any poll can ever tell me.
 
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WyattEarp said:
I am sympathetic for many of the people protesting, but how does that translate politically.
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I imagine a poll that gauged "sympathy" for the riots and the looting would get very different results.

Anyway, my vote was for "help." Trump is positioning himself on the side of law and order -- and positioning Biden as an opponent -- because he knows law and order as an issue favours Republicans.

Not just among the base but also among independents.
 
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Moviefan-2 said:
I imagine a poll that gauged "sympathy" for the riots and the looting would get very different results.

Anyway, my vote was for "help." Trump is positioning himself on the side of law and order -- and positioning Biden as an opponent -- because he knows law and order as an issue favours Republicans.

Not just among the base but also among independents.
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Sure, put the guy with 50 so accusations of sexual assault, fraud charges, nepotism accusastions, refusal to obey the law and now impeached as the 'law and order' guy.
You're as bright as the evangelicals who seem his as religious and righteous.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Sure, put the guy with 50 so accusations of sexual assault, fraud charges, nepotism accusastions, refusal to obey the law and now impeached as the 'law and order' guy.
You're as bright as the evangelicals who seem his as religious and righteous.
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Action talks and BS walks. If Trump re-establishes order, then he's the law and order candidate, regardless of his character.
 
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Dutch Oven said:
Action talks and BS walks. If Trump re-establishes order, then he's the law and order candidate, regardless of his character.
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How is he going to do that?
All he's doing is building a bigger wall around the White House and trying to get the army to protect him.
 
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Moviefan-2 said:
I imagine a poll that gauged "sympathy" for the riots and the looting would get very different results.

Anyway, my vote was for "help." Trump is positioning himself on the side of law and order -- and positioning Biden as an opponent -- because he knows law and order as an issue favours Republicans.

Not just among the base but also among independents.
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Frankfooter said:
Sure, put the guy with 50 so accusations of sexual assault, fraud charges, nepotism accusastions, refusal to obey the law and now impeached as the 'law and order' guy.
You're as bright as the evangelicals who seem his as religious and righteous.
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I voted won't help or hurt him. People are pretty much locked into their vote. I think the average American is smart enough to realize that its the media and anti Trump forces that are pushing this resistance as a last ditch effort to derail his re election hopes. Trump Russia collusion failed. Impeachment Ukraine failed. COVID19 blame game is failing. This will fail too once the smoke is clear.
 
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K Douglas said:
I voted won't help or hurt him. People are pretty much locked into their vote. I think the average American is smart enough to realize that its the media and anti Trump forces that are pushing this resistance as a last ditch effort to derail his re election hopes. Trump Russia collusion failed. Impeachment Ukraine failed. COVID19 blame game is failing. This will fail too once the smoke is clear.
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His insanity and horribly divisive "leadership" is what will hurt his re-election hopes.
 
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K Douglas said:
I voted won't help or hurt him. People are pretty much locked into their vote. I think the average American is smart enough to realize that its the media and anti Trump forces that are pushing this resistance as a last ditch effort to derail his re election hopes. Trump Russia collusion failed. Impeachment Ukraine failed. COVID19 blame game is failing. This will fail too once the smoke is clear.
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Why military men pushing back on Trump is an 'extraordinary' event in American democracy:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-generals-event-1.5599407
 
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Like him or not, I think Trump is done. I don't like the Dems and would be a Republican if American but I'm tired of him. I think alot of left leaning Republicans will vote for Biden and alot of Dems who voted for Trump last time won't be this time. It would be nice if someone else was representing the republicans.
 
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danmand said:
Trump does not have to do anything, and will not. The cities will soon get this under control, and everything will go back to normal. Until next time.
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I agree that they will not make much of a difference, not only because of apathy, but that these are mostly city folks. Big cites in general are more liberal than rural area and the Dems already win the majority of those districts. If they win a district by a higher percentage, it is still just that one district.
 
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"Forty-seven percent of registered voters said they planned to support Biden in the Nov. 3 election, compared with 37% favoring Trump."

I assume that this is a popular poll and not a 519 poll. New York state and the "left coast" will vote massively Democratic but how will that translate into electoral votes?
 
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J.A. Prufrock said:
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I don't think so.

When it comes to protecting your personal safety and your property, you're most likely to vote for the guy who you think can best protect you -- even if you think he's a hypocrite.

I noticed that looking like a hypocrite didn't stop Prime Minister Jolson from kneeling at a demonstration today.
 
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WyattEarp said:
This is also a response to bver_hunter above. Polls are not very good at measuring sentiment in a very fluid situation. Polling words like "sympathetic" don't measure sentiment very well. I am sympathetic for many of the people protesting, but how does that translate politically.

You also have the Trump guilt effect heaped on by the media. The riots are going to make this even more difficult for pollsters.

This is only an anecdote. My neighbor watches CNN and MSNBC. He decided over the last few years that he is anti-Trump. However, he is terrified of the protests. He will say he is voting for Biden publicly, but I think he will secretly vote for Trump. His personal reaction to the protests (looting and violence actually) tells more than any poll can ever tell me.
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Wow, so now people are "intimidated" to not support Trump publicly, but you think that they will do so "privately"!! OMG, where is Democracy and Free Speech going in the USA??
 
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bver_hunter said:
Wow, so now people are "intimidated" to not support Trump publicly, but you think that they will do so "privately"!! OMG, where is Democracy and Free Speech going in the USA??
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Sure. Look at all the videos out there of people wearing red MAGA hats getting absolutely beaten up and mobbed down.

You ask where the free speech is going? It's getting beaten up by the people you support.
 
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