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Cantaro

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Its time we should start looking elsewhere for product and boycott China the best we can. Japan, Korea, Vietnam, India should step up. They should extradite Meng and stop dragging their feet.


Wednesday’s ruling against Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou has set off a range of barbed commentary in China’s state-backed media, much of it deriding Canada’s role in the affair.

On Wednesday, Associate Chief Justice Heather Holmes of the B.C. Supreme Court ruled that the charges Meng faces in America could also be a crime in Canada, and said the case should proceed. Meng is accused of misrepresenting Huawei’s relationship with Skycom Tech Co. and making false statements to HSBC, putting the bank at risk of violating U.S. sanctions against Iran.

Her arrest by the RCMP at the Vancouver airport in December 2018 has placed Canada in the middle of rising tensions between the U.S. and China, and in Chinese state media, the reaction to the ruling was swift and furious. In China, Canada’s role in Meng’s detention is often described as Ottawa doing the dirty work of the U.S., which China claims wants to cripple its tech giant Huawei.

In an article in the Communist Party-run Global Times soon after the ruling, an expert was cited as saying that the decision won’t hurt Huawei “because the company will not succumb to the US because of any individual.” But, citing the same expert, it said the decision will “make Canada a pathetic clown and a scapegoat in the fight between China and the US.”

Expressing the views of Xiang Ligang, a veteran industry analyst, the paper wrote:

“Huawei will not bow to US over the unjustified detention of any individual, and the Chinese technology giant, which has survived the US’ relentless crackdown, will push forward amid headwinds — like a jet riddled with bullets yet still flying its mission.”

The paper wrote that He Weiwen, a former senior trade official, told its reporters that the verdict will make Canada-China relations “worse than ever,” and that this will play out when it comes to future trade. “You can always give some projects or orders to other countries, instead of just one county alone,” he said.

Mei Xinyu, described by the outlet as “an expert close to China’s Commerce Ministry,” feared that Canada will detain Meng as a “hostage” indefinitely.

“Being kept by the US as a key hostage to contain China’s industrial upgrading and maintain its parasitic hegemony, the US will hardly let Meng free,” Mei was quoted as saying. “Canada has been under US pressure since the beginning, or it could have benefited from the trade war between the world’s two largest economies.”

Meanwhile, an editorial in the Communist Party-run China Daily had a headline that read: “Abuse of their extradition treaty by US and Canada is deplorable.”'
The ruling means the US and Canada are continuing to abuse their bilateral extradition treaty to attack Huawei,” the editorial read. “The hounding of Meng is part of the US witch hunt against the Chinese telecommunications equipment giant, which Washington is doing all it can to strangle.”

The editorial had stinging words for Canada, which it accused of acting like an innocent party in the affair, when in fact it was anything but.

“Ottawa is trying to portray itself as innocent of any wrongdoing, claiming it is a legal matter that should be left to the courts,” it read. “Yet its move to arrest Meng was quite clearly politically motivated — or perhaps it would be more accurate to say economically motivated, since it came when it is was engaged in trade talks with Washington. It should have acted with caution to avoid being dragged into Washington’s shenanigans.”

It said the decision shows that “the US and Canada are continuing to abuse their bilateral extradition treaty to attack Huawei,” and has “effectively dashed hopes of an end to the incident and a mending of Canada-China relations.”

Arguments
In the next phase of the proceedings against Meng, the court will hear arguments about whether her arrest was unlawful.
Her lawyers have alleged the Canada Border Services Agency, the RCMP and the Federal Bureau of Investigation conducted a “covert criminal investigation” at the airport and violated Meng’s charter rights.
Canada’s Justice Minister David Lametti will still have the final say on whether Meng should be extradited to the U.S.
Two Canadians, ex-diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor, were detained in China nine days after Meng’s arrest, in a move seen as a retaliation. They remain in custody.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...fter-meng-wanzhou-verdict?video_autoplay=true
 

Knuckle Ball

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The Chinese need to release the Canadian hostages that they are holding...after which they can go fuck themselves.

I agree that Canada needs to find other markets to buy and sell goods.
 

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The Chinese need to release the Canadian hostages that they are holding...after which they can go fuck themselves.

I agree that Canada needs to find other markets to buy and sell goods.
Too bad Canada doesn't have a couple of daisy cutters and hellfire missiles as a present for CCP HQ. Fuck those duplicitous bastards.
 

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On this file, I actually have some sympathy for Trudeau. He can't speak freely about China while we're still relying so heavily on them for PPE and/or pharmaceuticals, and they are holding 2 prisoners, and thousands more Canadians are still in China who could be rounded up in a minute. Reporters are being stupid to even ask him about it. Wait until after the Pandemic. Then we can fairly measure his response.
 

danmand

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I am with China on this one. To arrest Meng was beyond stupid. I blame it on the incompetent and vile Freeland.
 

Insidious Von

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The name of the pathetic clown is Turdo, not Bozo.
tisk, tisk, tisk. You impressed me with Palestrina and then you do this, how disappointing.

I agree, we should extradite the parasite to the USA as soon as possible. Unfortunately she has a cadre of lawyers that are going to take advantage of our rule of law. She should consider herself luckly, had she run afoul of the Mao Princelings she would have disappeared. If they want to put the Canadian hostages on mock trials, they'll only make themselves look more vile before the International community.

The Indo-Chinese are massively pissed off at the PRC. They've built a sequence of dams on their part of the Mekong River, the once mighty river is drying up downstream. This will cause famine in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam - so sweet of the PRC to create an environmental catastrophe.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/01/southeast-asia-most-critical-river-enters-uncharted-waters/
 

danmand

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tisk, tisk, tisk. You impressed me with Palestrina and then you do this, how disappointing.

I agree, we should extradite the parasite to the USA as soon as possible. Unfortunately she has a cadre of lawyers that are going to take advantage of our rule of law. She should consider herself luckly, had she run afoul of the Mao Princelings she would have disappeared. If they want to put the Canadian hostages on mock trials, they'll only make themselves look more vile before the International community.

The Indo-Chinese are massively pissed off at the PRC. They've built a sequence of dams on their part of the Mekong River, the once mighty river is drying up downstream. This will cause famine in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam - so sweet of the PRC to create an environmental catastrophe.
Why do you want to condemn the poor women to a US show trial? Her only offence was to work for a company that is out-competing the American companies in its field.

That really has nothing to do with the Mekong river. You cannot blame all of China's atrocities on this poor women. She was a CFO of a tech company forcrissakes.
 

Dutch Oven

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Why do you want to condemn the poor women to a US show trial? Her only offence was to work for a company that is out-competing the American companies in its field.

That really has nothing to do with the Mekong river. You cannot blame all of China's atrocities on this poor women. She was a CFO of a tech company forcrissakes.
Who do you think is getting better due process of law in their legal proceedings - the Michaels or Meng?
 

Insidious Von

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Why do you want to condemn the poor women to a US show trial? Her only offence was to work for a company that is out-competing the American companies in its field.

That really has nothing to do with the Mekong river. You cannot blame all of China's atrocities on this poor women. She was a CFO of a tech company forcrissakes.
Wrongo Dane, she was the CFO of a tech company by rote, she toes the party line as written by the Mao Princelings. China has been stealing IP for decades and have been aggresively undermining Western Networks. Foreign companies that want to do business have to accept partial Chinese ownership and cadres on their Board of Directors. Currently Shanghai Group owns 40% of Disney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsuZWVkSp_c
 

danmand

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Wrongo Dane, she was the CFO of a tech company by rote, she toes the party line as written by the Mao Princelings. China has been stealing IP for decades and have been aggresively undermining Western Networks. Foreign companies that want to do business have to accept partial Chinese ownership and cadres on their Board of Directors. Currently Shanghai Group owns 40% of Disney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsuZWVkSp_c
I disagree with you. It makes imminent sense for China to demand partial Chinese ownership of foreign companies doing business in China. All countries have this strategy more or less. Canada only allow R&D tax credits if the company is majority own by Canadians.

American companies move first their production to China and subsequently large parts of their developments to China. Is that stealing IP? Not really, it was the greed of the American companies that caused them to move their business to China.
 

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It was done to appease Trump, who promptly forgot all about it.
On that end it was stupid.
Sorry about your TDS flare-up, but she was arrested because she committed a crime.

Perhaps direct your outrage at the Canadians being tortured. Could help bring down the TDS swelling.
 

Cantaro

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I am with China on this one. To arrest Meng was beyond stupid. I blame it on the incompetent and vile Freeland.
Your're with China on everything. As long as you can bash the US, China gets a a free ticket for all the shit they do including repression, barbaric behavior, camps for Muslims. but no matter what, you will continue to support and buy their products.
 

danmand

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Your're with China on everything. As long as you can bash the US, China gets a a free ticket for all the shit they do including repression, barbaric behavior, camps for Muslims. but no matter what, you will continue to support and buy their products.
Negative, I am certainly not with China on everything, on the contrary.

But being against a lot of Chinese policies does not mean I buy all kind of BS from the US propaganda machine.

PS: I lived and worked in USA for a long time, and I am well aware of the mantra there: "You are either for us or against us" . I have a more nuanced view of things.
 

Cantaro

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Negative, I am certainly not with China on everything, on the contrary.

But being against a lot of Chinese policies does not mean I buy all kind of BS from the US propaganda machine.
But you sure appear as a specialist in bashing the US compared to China considering your posts. Which is hypocritical.
 

danmand

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Wrong. That is the Leftist mantra.
I can assure you that the American companies I worked in were not hotbeds of socialism.
 

bver_hunter

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Meng and Huawei were involved with fraudulent dealings wth Iran since 2010. However, we also know that The Americans are behind Huawei in the manner of this 5G Technology. They are using Canada as a pawn in this whole affair. The Canadian Government's hands are tied in this whole affair. It is very likely that Meng will now be extradited to the USA. This will no doubt cause more frictions between China and Canada. Problem is that Canada abides by the Rule of Justice and The Law. On the other hand China makes up the laws as they go along. But American strained relationships with China are no longer an influence on the world scene. In fact their ridiculous recent sanctions on Iran has exacerbated this whole Meng affair!!
 
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