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murraywilson

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Being at the home for he past 10 weeks with my wife has become unbearable. Anyone else looking at getting a divorce or separation? I have a call with a divorce lawyer to discuss options. Any tips/advice from those who've gone through this before would be appreciated.
 

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Fastest route to the poor-house is through the office of a rat-bastard divorce lawyer. Tough it out, bud. There are ways to stay married and never see the woman. It's just not worth it, financially-speaking.
 

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Being at the home for he past 10 weeks with my wife has become unbearable. Anyone else looking at getting a divorce or separation? I have a call with a divorce lawyer to discuss options. Any tips/advice from those who've gone through this before would be appreciated.
Nobody has gone through a pandemic divorce before. This virus is a killer, including marriages or relationships. Case by case, but this relationship destruction might be for the better as it really shows who your friends are especially going forward.
 

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I was reading that in NY you can't get divorced during the lockdown. Not sure what the rules are here.

There is no good way to do this. If you have kids they come first. If you are the sole breadwinner she will get stuff. If you are equal you will split equal.

The only other thing I will say from watching friends is things are just things and replaceable. Let her have small victories over things.

Your victory will be your freedom.
 

danmand

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Get a competent, non confrontational divorce lawyer. Divorce is costly and emotionally difficult, but it is best in the longer run, if you can stay on civil terms with your ex.
 

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Get a competent, non confrontational divorce lawyer. Divorce is costly and emotionally difficult, but it is best in the longer run, if you can stay on civil terms with your ex.
Don't move out of the matrimonial home.

Watch The Marriage Story on netflix.

Lucy
 

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Nobody has gone through a pandemic divorce before. This virus is a killer, including marriages or relationships. Case by case, but this relationship destruction might be for the better as it really shows who your friends are especially going forward.
It reveals the truth and speeds up the inevitable process.

It’s not the virus to blame lol some people are just together for the wrong reasons and takes them a virus or tragedy to realize where their priorities stand.

Virus is the surface or leaves or branch. You are ignoring the trunk and the root of the problem.
 

danmand

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I thank the lord every day that I am not locked down with any of my ex wives.
 

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My divorce was started in November 2019, and final Certificate was issued Feb. 7.

A miracle of good timing in terms of not having to live in the same home with her during the pandemic!

Are the family courts even open now to consider new or ongoing divorce applications?
 

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My divorce was started in November 2019, and final Certificate was issued Feb. 7.

A miracle of good timing in terms of not having to live in the same home with her during the pandemic!

Are the family courts even open now to consider new or ongoing divorce applications?

Family courts are locked down to everything except dire emergencies and simple consent orders until July and then they will ease back up.

Dire emergencies = child abduction, children exposed to Covid-19, spousal assault remedies, financial extreme and immediate dire hardship.

But you don't need a judge to separate. Get advice from your lawyer, not from randoms on TERB.
 

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Watch the movie, "War of the Roses" with Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner.
 

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I am so thankful that I am not in lock down with my ex wife. However, I am generally enjoying the lockdown with my current partner. There is something to be said about life in the slow lane if you are in good company.
 

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Fastest route to the poor-house is through the office of a rat-bastard divorce lawyer.
There is no such thing as a rat bag divorce lawyer. Divorce lawyers are helpful, caring, and are a powerful ally when you need one.

You have no idea how vindictive some ex spouse's can be. I think your attitude towards lawyers needs to change and become much more informed and balanced.

Staying in a dead marriage is not usually a good idea as it could increase spousal support obligations, assuming one spouse can show entitlement.

It's also not a good idea for other reasons. For instance if one spouse is the primary bread winner, then it is better for that spouse to separate sooner in order to minimize the other spouse's equalization payment.
 

mandrill

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There is no such thing as a rat bag divorce lawyer. Divorce lawyers are helpful, caring, and are a powerful ally when you need one.

You have no idea how vindictive some ex spouse's can be. I think your attitude towards lawyers needs to change and become much more informed and balanced.

Staying in a dead marriage is not usually a good idea as it could increase spousal support obligations, assuming one spouse can show entitlement.

It's also not a good idea for other reasons. For instance if one spouse is the primary bread winner, then it is better for that spouse to separate sooner in order to minimize the other spouse's equalization payment.

Decent points. Although these entitlements accrue in slow motion. Unless you're about to pull off a major business coup, staying an extra year or so in a shitty marriage won't change the figures that much.
 

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Threads like this remind me not to get married every day
Don't, unless you want to have kids, and don't expect the marriage to survive kids. My real advice: have a baby with someone you actual like, not someone you just like fucking. Because after the divorce, you will see her in your kid(s) for the rest of your life.. genetics are powerful.
 

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Fastest route to the poor-house is through the office of a rat-bastard divorce lawyer. Tough it out, bud. There are ways to stay married and never see the woman. It's just not worth it, financially-speaking.
But you'll never be truly happen again, either. You're always coming back to that home each day. You deserve to be happy; do what is best for you.

But avoid the lawyer route if you can. Hire a mediator if you can't agree on issues. Don't get a lawyer, she gets a lawyer and they run up a huge bill. $700 in mediation will save you thousands. If the mediator works with a lawyer, they can draft up the intiial agreement as well. You retain your own lawyer to review/perfect it and you're done. Much cheaper this way.
 

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Decent points. Although these entitlements accrue in slow motion. Unless you're about to pull off a major business coup, staying an extra year or so in a shitty marriage won't change the figures that much.
That's true. I fully agree with you on that.

Also, regarding your post above, some Courthouses have now expanded the scope of family matters they are willing to deal with. For instance, the Kingston courthouse is accepting Motions to Change and Applications. Keep in mind, once you get these documents filed and served, the other party gets 30 days to respond, or 60 if they live outside Ontario. So it isn't really quick, but at least one can get started.

Also, rumour has it the Waterloo Region courthouse is now doing contested Motions by telephone, so not just in cases of urgency anymore. Presumably right across Ontario courts are expanding beyond just dealing with urgent matters, but I don't know that for sure.

I suspect across several professions people are becoming more nimble and acquainted with the Zoom technology/app and what it allows. But there was a learning curve of course.
 
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