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A deadly attack at a Toronto erotic massage parlour three months ago is now being treated as an act of terrorism after police allegedly uncovered evidence it was inspired by misogynist incel ideology.

Charges against the suspect accused of carrying out the Feb. 24 stabbing attack, which killed a woman and injured another, were updated in court on Tuesday to “murder — terrorist activity.”

The suspect, who cannot be named because he is a minor, was already facing first-degree and attempted murder charges, but the development means police believe the incident was terrorism-related.

Global News has learned police are alleging the attack was inspired by the incel movement made up of men unable to attract sexual partners who promote violence against women on internet forums.

Experts said it was the first time a terrorism charge had been laid over violence tied to incels, a term that refers to self-described “involuntary celibates.”

It is also believed to be the first time Canada’s anti-terrorism laws have been used to prosecute an act of violence by a suspect who was not an Islamist extremist.

READ MORE: 17-year-old charged with 1st-degree murder after stabbing at Toronto massage parlour

The incident points to the evolving threat posed by the incel movement, which a recent paper said was “flourishing, ideologically evolving, and continuing to threaten more … attacks.”

Almost 50 deaths in Canada and the United States have been linked to incels, leading to calls to treat their actions as a form of domestic terrorism.

Canadian authorities had been reluctant to make use of federal anti-terrorism laws following incidents such as the 2018 Toronto van attack, preferring to charge suspects with non-terrorism offences.

Although the van attack suspect Alek Minassian allegedly told police after ramming pedestrians on Toronto’s busy Yonge Street that he was part of an “incel rebellion,” he was not charged with terrorism.

Nor were Quebec mosque gunman Alexandre Bissonnette or Abdulahi Sharif, who targeted pedestrians and police with a van in Edmonton in 2017. Instead, they were charged with murder or attempted murder.

But the decision to prosecute the massage parlour attack as terrorism may signal a new approach by the authorities, a willingness to bring terrorism charges when warranted, and an acknowledgement that a broader range of groups are active in extremist violence.

The incident took place at the Crown Spa, which offers “sensual body rub” and “an exotic massage that will leave you feeling completely relaxed and spoiled senseless,” according to its website.

At around noon on Monday, Feb. 24, the owner said she heard screams coming from a back room. When she went to see what was happening, a man stabbed her with a machete.

She said she was able to wrestle the weapon from him and stab him in the back. Witnesses saw a bloodied woman and man emerge from the front door. The body of Ashley Noell Arzaga, 24, was found inside.

An injured teenager was arrested at the scene.

No motive was disclosed at the time but a source said the 17-year-old suspect indicated he was familiar with both the Toronto van attacker and the author of the incel “manifesto,” Elliot Rodger.

When Toronto police come across evidence a crime might be terrorism-related, they call in the RCMP-led Integrated National Security Enforcement Team (INSET).

The charge that resulted from the Toronto INSET investigation applies to cases where a murder has occurred during an act of terrorism.

“I think it’s a move in the right direction,” Prof. Colin Clarke, a senior research fellow at the U.S. terrorism think tank the Soufan Centre, said of the terrorism charge.

Incels have become a growing security concern.

Since the Toronto van killings two years ago, a handful of additional incel attacks have occurred, including at a Florida yoga studio in November 2018 and in Texas in June 2019.

Social media companies have responded by taking down online forums used by incels, while police have made arrests and paid closer attention to the misogynist extremist movement.

“What begins as a personal grievance due to perceived rejection by women may morph into allegiance to, and attempts to further, an incel rebellion,” a Texas Department of Public Safety report said in January.

“The result has thrust the incel movement into the realm of domestic terrorism.”

A California man described as an online incel promoter was arrested last month over an alleged harassment campaign against two teenage girls who had rejected his sexual advances.

“Incel ideology ranges from sad and self-loathing to the absolute hatred of women,” FBI special agent Marcus McCain wrote in an affidavit following the arrest of Carl Bennington, 33, adding some incels advocated for the legalization of rape and violence against women.

While Bennington was charged with cyberstalking, Clarke and other experts have been making the case that incel violence meets the definition of terrorism and should be treated accordingly.

READ MORE: ‘Day of retribution’: Toronto van attack suspect describes hatred towards women as motive

“Some dispute that incel attacks qualify as terrorism because there is no realistic policy change that the movement is advocating, since their frustrations are merely a result of failed interpersonal relationships,” Clarke and Lilianna Turner wrote in Insights

“However, they do justify violence to assuage their grievances, their violence is ideological in nature, and they have attacked civilians in order to have a psychological impact on society, all classic hallmarks of terrorism.”

Incel violence is “indisputably terroristic in that it seeks to repress and subjugate women as part of the incels’ vision of a paternalistic, genderized society,” according to Bruce Hoffman and Jacob Ware of the Council on Foreign Relations.

“By advocating bloodshed as a means of broader societal intimidation, incel ideology conforms to the core definition of terrorism as violence designed to have far-reaching psychological effects,” they wrote.

As with some far-right and Islamist extremists, incels are challenging for police because they tend to act alone, lack ties to an organization and use readily-accessible weapons such as vehicles and knives.

But experts said action was needed.

“The violent manifestations of the ideology pose a new terrorism threat, which should not be dismissed or ignored by domestic law enforcement agencies,” according to a Studies in Conflict & Terrorism paper.

Stewart.Bell@globalnews.ca
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SchlongConery

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white men are the number one choice of women everywhere they have no excuse to be incels

So you are a black incel as well as being a victim of your "rights" being involuntarily infringed by the lockdown?


What has this forum come to where the most prolific poster(s) fill this discussion forum up with re-posted drivel for the sole purpose of furthering crackpot ideas?

Am I alone in feeling that societal malcontent posting has become the primary personality of the TERB forum?
 

mandrill

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white men are the number one choice of women everywhere they have no excuse to be incels

I have several female friends who prefer Black guys.

And anyway..... No one has an "excuse to be an incel"! It's a hate ideology. It's like saying someone has an "excuse to be ISIS" or an "excuse to be a nazi".
 

mandrill

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So you are a black incel as well as being a victim of your "rights" being involuntarily infringed by the lockdown?


What has this forum come to where the most prolific poster(s) fill this discussion forum up with re-posted drivel for the sole purpose of furthering crackpot ideas?

Am I alone in feeling that societal malcontent posting has become the primary personality of the TERB forum?
I agree w you. A lot of the brighter, more moderate guys choose not to post any more.
 

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So you are a black incel as well as being a victim of your "rights" being involuntarily infringed by the lockdown?


What has this forum come to where the most prolific poster(s) fill this discussion forum up with re-posted drivel for the sole purpose of furthering crackpot ideas?

Am I alone in feeling that societal malcontent posting has become the primary personality of the TERB forum?


incels don't visit SPs and yes my right to earn a living is infringed on these lockdowns are are based on false science

and colorado last week admitted they inflated the covid death numbers. that's not conspiracy

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/15/colorado-covid-coronavirus-counting-deaths-fatalities/
 

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So you are a black incel as well as being a victim of your "rights" being involuntarily infringed by the lockdown?


What has this forum come to where the most prolific poster(s) fill this discussion forum up with re-posted drivel for the sole purpose of furthering crackpot ideas?

Am I alone in feeling that societal malcontent posting has become the primary personality of the TERB forum?
This is why my ignore list is so long.

It is not that I care about your difference of opinion, I just know we come from two completely different worlds and will never agree.

For example - I will have men who have a clear disdain for women on ignore. There is no point in reading their hate filled drivel over and over. I would equally have women on ignore who have a disdain from men. I have many blocked on Twitter for it. There is no point reading their drivel either.

You can't have "open" discussions with these people so why subject yourself to reading their garbage? So I just let the ignore list grow. It seems better that way.
 

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As with some far-right and Islamist extremists, incels are challenging for police because they tend to act alone, lack ties to an organization and use readily-accessible weapons such as vehicles and knives.

My guess is that these dudes have some sort of childhood abuse issues that makes them very impressionable and prone to these ideologies.
 

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I guess I have been living under a rock. I heard of this movement but never realized what they are all about until now. What a bunch of idiots.
here is an example

https://debunkingsandman.wordpress.com/

sandmand is based in Toronto Canada. an e-beggar who constantly whine abut women bu love to show pics of attractive women in his videos while he whine about them in his effeminate high pitched voice
 

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So you are a black incel as well as being a victim of your "rights" being involuntarily infringed by the lockdown?


What has this forum come to where the most prolific poster(s) fill this discussion forum up with re-posted drivel for the sole purpose of furthering crackpot ideas?

Am I alone in feeling that societal malcontent posting has become the primary personality of the TERB forum?
No you are not alone. I stopped posting long ago for this reason.
 

mandrill

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As with some far-right and Islamist extremists, incels are challenging for police because they tend to act alone, lack ties to an organization and use readily-accessible weapons such as vehicles and knives.

My guess is that these dudes have some sort of childhood abuse issues that makes them very impressionable and prone to these ideologies.

Probably too neat an explanation.

Ali Soufan - at least I think it was him - did an analysis of recruits to ISIS and came up w no pattern whatsoever, aside from numerical male predominance. There was no distinct factor w education / lack of same or any other social modifier.
 

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Probably too neat an explanation.

Ali Soufan - at least I think it was him - did an analysis of recruits to ISIS and came up w no pattern whatsoever, aside from numerical male predominance. There was no distinct factor w education / lack of same or any other social modifier.
smallcock has identified as an incel on this board.
He should chime in.
 

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So an Incel attacks a place that sells sexual encounters? WTF? I don't get it.
 

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I have zero sympathy for incels.

Lets be honest. There are a lot of very below average people who can get girlfriends or laid.

If you cant get laid either your standards are too high or theres something wrong with you.

Luckily in both cases you can change both of those things.

Honestly you just have to put in work. Hygeine and healthy lifestyle are a must. Then practice being in social situations.

It takes time and you have to be okay with rejection. Plenty of successul guys probably have lower batting aversges than you think....and if you are comparing yourself to a rich celebrity thsts a problem too. Heck comparing yourself to a well adjusted 6 figure earning fit guy might not be a fair comparison.

Bottomline incels took the easy way out and incorrectly blame society and women.
 

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hang the looooooser
That would great, but with no capital punishment the best we can hope for is that he suffers in prison without his comic book and superhero figurine collections, the inability to play dungeons and dragons and is denied access to acne cream and gay porn.
 
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