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Gangster geopolitics and Israel's annexation plans

basketcase

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Canada also supported apartheid South Africa until the global boycott movement made them change.....
Are you still trying to claim that Canada is wrong to consider Hamas a terrorist group?


p.s. Canada never labelled Mandela a terrorist.
 

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Are you still trying to claim that Canada is wrong to consider Hamas a terrorist group?
The use of the word 'terrorist' is a political ploy to justify ignoring human rights and assassinations.
You use it to demonize all Palestinians in order to suggest they are 'savages' who don't deserve basic human rights, their own homes, equal rights, the vote, water, food and freedom.
If terrorism is the targeting of civilians than Israel is 9-10 times the terrorists as Hamas, as they regularly kill that many more civilians.
Usually you try to claim that terrorism can't apply to states, as if that makes the same acts totally fine.

I say just take Israel and Hamas to the ICC and let them charge whoever they think has committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Treat them both equally before the law, the Canadian way.
 

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The use of the word 'terrorist' is a political ploy to justify ignoring human rights and assassinations.....
So you are claiming that when Canada calls Hamas a terrorist entity they are guilty of ignoring human rights and assassinations? Sorry but you are once again openly trying to defend Hamas (despite Canadian law also considering it illegal to provide support to terrorist entities)

Hamas is called a terrorist entity in Canada (and the EU, and other democracies) because they commit acts of terrorism. Same for Palestinian Islamic Jihad, PFLP, Kach, and all the other groups on their list.
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx

Sadly your only comment for why Hamas are considered terrorists and Israel is a diplomatic partner is your claims of Jewish control over all those democracies.
 

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So you are claiming that when Canada calls Hamas a terrorist entity they are guilty of ignoring human rights and assassinations?
I'm saying that when Israel used snipers to kill 300 protesters and injure 14,000 over every Friday for over a year that Canada should call Israel out for war crimes or if they insist on using this 'terrorism' label you prefer, call out Israel for what it does.
Terrorism.
The deliberate targeting of civilians for political ends.
 

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I'm saying that when ....
You're saying you want Hamas excused for their actions and you want Israel prevented from acting against violence.

Canada considers Hamas a terrorist entity because they commit terrorism and has strong diplomatic ties with Israel. You might chalk it up to Jewish conspiracies but the democratic world sees reality.
 

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WTF are you even talking about? I think you've been locked in your basement too long.
Are you playing dumb or is this the real thing? You’ve already engaged on this topic, pud. You can’t keep track of your stories.
 

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You are now defending state terrorism....
Says the guy who defends actual terrorism.

You have no answer to why Canada and most of the democratic world consider Hamas a banned terrorist organization while maintaining strong diplomatic relationships with Israel other than your anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
 

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Says the guy who defends actual terrorism.

You have no answer to why Canada and most of the democratic world consider Hamas a banned terrorist organization while maintaining strong diplomatic relationships with Israel other than your anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
I answered.
Canada supported apartheid, Mandela was labelled a terrorist while the South African lobby battled with global boycotts.
Eventually they ended apartheid.

This is terrorism.
VIDEO – Israeli Settlers Attack Palestinian Family in Hebron, Soldiers Watch

VIDEO: Settlers Hold Parade While Soldiers Assault Palestinians in Jersualem
 

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I answered....
Yes, you said it was because the Jewish lobby.


p.s. Yes, the first one sounds like terrorism (your link doesn't work so I can't really be sure), just like when Palestinians throw rocks and firebombs at cars driven by Jews. It's you who thinks terrorism and bad deeds only happen on one side.
 

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p.s. Yes, the first one sounds like terrorism (your link doesn't work so I can't really be sure), just like when Palestinians throw rocks and firebombs at cars driven by Jews. It's you who thinks terrorism and bad deeds only happen on one side.
I'm the one who says both sides need to be investigated by the ICC and charges lay on both sides where warranted.
You are the one claiming the ICC is not legitimate, is biased and Palestinians don't deserve basic human rights or their own country back.
 

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I'm the one who says both sides ....
Which is why I keep comparing you to trump. The only reason you want both sides investigated is you think Hamas' actions are justified and know that even if the ICC disagrees with you, it's not like Hamas can be under much more international sanctions than they are already.

I see you don't want to address that I have consistently referred to attacks by Jewish settlers and Palestinians as terrorism while you only claim it applies to Jews.

p.s. Funny to hear you talking about Palestinian rights while telling them they are wrong and should embrace your One State bullshit.
 

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And to save you time and to cut off your lies, I'll right now condemn the Israeli cop who shot an autistic man. I'll also mention that Israel has put the guy under house arrest (which is faster than the US acted in Georgia or Minneapolis).
 

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Which is why I keep comparing you to trump. The only reason you want both sides investigated is you think Hamas' actions are justified and know that even if the ICC disagrees with you, it's not like Hamas can be under much more international sanctions than they are already..
Not at all.
I think both sides need to be held to the law so that both sides are forced to obey it.

You would never agree to having both sides held to the law, would you?
For you, Israel can't exist unless its a racist state ruling Palestinians under apartheid.
That's why you will never support both sides being held to the law by the ICC.
 

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Not at all.
I think both sides need to be held to the law so that both sides are forced to obey it.....
You can keep up with the 'both sides' stuff but we all know it isn't supported by your posts where you constantly make excuses for Hamas and claim Hamas has the right to do all sorts of nasty things.

And please explain how the ICC can force Hamas to start obeying international law. Many in Hamas are already on interpol watch-lists and is already considered a terrorist entity by most of the democratic world. Do you think the ICC is going to invade Gaza to fix things?
 

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You can keep up with the 'both sides' stuff but we all know it isn't supported by your posts where you constantly make excuses for Hamas and claim Hamas has the right to do all sorts of nasty things.
Feel free to repost if you think those posts exist.
I know they don't.
But we do know what you post:
Isn't this the core of the issue in the US right now? Police let armed white militia groups have their civil rights but not black guys?
Where you are against 'armed white militia' but totally for 'armed Israeli settler militia' attacking Palestinians who do not have even the basic civil rights ceded to black Americans.


And please explain how the ICC can force Hamas to start obeying international law. Many in Hamas are already on interpol watch-lists and is already considered a terrorist entity by most of the democratic world. Do you think the ICC is going to invade Gaza to fix things?
The ICC ruling on Hamas and Israel will label those guilty of war crimes, make travel impossible, put their leaders behind bars (hopefully and eventually) and law the legal ground for economic sanctions that can force change the way they did for apartheid South Africa.

Why are you so against giving the native population in Israel/Palestine basic human rights?
 

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Feel free to repost if you think those posts exist....
You want me to post all 30,000 or so of them? I know you spend all day on here but I'd have to quit my job and become a full-time poster like you to list them all.

Just a few examples:
Hamas firing hundreds of war crime rockets at Israeli cities. You said it was a reasonable response to Israel installing surveillance equipment.
Hamas killing Jewish civilians in the West Bank. You said it was the Jews fault for being there and tried to pretend a kid at a bus stop is somehow a military target.
Hamas bombs public transit. You said it's a military target since the bus route passed by a military building.

And the most recent
Hamas locks up peace activists for talking to Israeli Jews. You claim it's okay for them to do it because Hamas and some Palestinians hate Israel as much as you do.


p.s Hamas already can't travel to countries that follow interpol. It is only countries like Syria, Qatar, and Iran where they can go. It is already illegal in Western democracies to send money to Hamas. There is nothing else the ICC can do to them (which is exactly why you are okay the ICC). The people of Gaza would be much better off without Hamas but there's no way for the ICC or anyone else to get someone else in power, especially since Hamas' treatment of dissent makes Trump's wishes about protesters look like child's play.
 

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You want me to post all 30,000 or so of them? I know you spend all day on here but I'd have to quit my job and become a full-time poster like you to list them all.

Just a few examples:
Hamas firing hundreds of war crime rockets at Israeli cities. You said it was a reasonable response to Israel installing surveillance equipment.
Hamas killing Jewish civilians in the West Bank. You said it was the Jews fault for being there and tried to pretend a kid at a bus stop is somehow a military target.
Hamas bombs public transit. You said it's a military target since the bus route passed by a military building.
You're just making shit up.
Try again.

Do it like this, use quotes with links.
Are the settlements legal or illegal?
According to the UN, the border between Israel/Palestine will be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice lines
In PA controlled areas of the West Bank, apartheid is implemented because .
 
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