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chuckertmg

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Didn't read it. Does this pertain to the league's plans to restart the season?
It does, yes.
It points out some teams like Montreal were making moves to position themselves for the draft and it might work against their rebuilding plan to enter into an impromptu playoff run they were otherwise going to miss.

Best scenario set was that they could start play by mid to late July, which is an awesome time to maintain ice quality in Vegas.
It could be a cute little off-season tournament. Kind of to hockey what Stars On Ice is to figure skating.
Except with no one in the stands.

I had little interest until I learned that Toronto drew against Columbus to start. That might be interesting if we’re not all at the cottage crushing beer.
 

superstar_88

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Have to agree hockey may be hard to watch in July and August in spite of it being an entry round followed by the playoffs. But we're under different circumstances.
 

superstar_88

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It does, yes.
It points out some teams like Montreal were making moves to position themselves for the draft and it might work against their rebuilding plan to enter into an impromptu playoff run they were otherwise going to miss.

Best scenario set was that they could start play by mid to late July, which is an awesome time to maintain ice quality in Vegas.
It could be a cute little off-season tournament. Kind of to hockey what Stars On Ice is to figure skating.
Except with no one in the stands.

I had little interest until I learned that Toronto drew against Columbus to start. That might be interesting if we’re not all at the cottage crushing beer.
I didn't read it either. It depends on what the NHL considers the playoffs. Is it a 24 team playoff or 16 team playoff. So there is significance in semantics.
If the NHL considers it still a 16 team playoff then nothing has changed. The play-in round is just the replacement for the rest of the regular season. Montreal wasn't mathematically out. At least I don't think they were. Their odds have significantly increased in this format to make the playoffs but still they are considered out until beating the odds to get into the round of 16.
 

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My understanding is that it is NOT a 24 team playoffs. It is a 16 team playoff as always, but only 24 teams are in the running to get those 16 spots. After that, it is as ss88 describes.

Maybe my mind will change, but for now I don't have much interest in this unholy creation which serves no one but the owners.

As Damien Cox pointed out that in the last work stoppage (2005) Bettman had declared that a resolution had to be achieved by some date in March because playing hockey in July was unacceptable and not an option, or worded otherwise. His feelings are definitely different now.

Suddenly, anything’s possible for Gary (Mr. Flexible) Bettman. Funny, but that didn’t seem to be the way things operated back on Feb. 16, 2005 when Bettman unilaterally cancelled the 2004-05 season because it was “no longer practical to conduct even an abbreviated season.” Couldn’t dream of playing into July then. Couldn’t wait another day to cancel the season.

Accordingly, it appears there’s a plan being advanced by the return-to-play committee to stretch the 2019-20 season into August, maybe even September, and start the next one in December.

Be assured that whatever the league is planning, it is most definitely not primarily in the interest of hockey fans. It is for business purposes, pure and simple. The NHL will do almost anything to avoid letting its Canadian and U.S. television contracts roll over for another year. That’s what is driving this, not some sense of responsibility that fans are owed a completion to the season that came to an abrupt halt on March 12 because of the pandemic.
Loss revenue will hinder salary cap increase and that could hurt a cap-strapped team like the Leafs. We know Darts likes to brag about the Habs having managed cap space.
 

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Love Love, Hockey! Covid or not, The Cup should be not be allowed to be handed out any later than the Victoria Long Weekend!
 

chuckertmg

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Normally the cup is handed out in June.
I'm sure he knows - his point is the season's too long in a non-pandemic year.
They play too many games and it's done for profit, not because it makes the game better.

It's not different in NBA or MLB. When they start having to "load manage" their players it's a sure sign the league is scheduling too many games.
 

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Leafs would play Boston in the first round.
Why bother?
Leafs would have to make it to the 1st Round for that to happen.
 

superstar_88

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Questions:
I'm presuming it's sudden death overtime in the 5 game qualifying series.
What type of overtime will the round robin teams be playing? Sudden death or 5 min OT then shootout.
What draft order will teams losing in the qualifying series take?
 

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Questions:
I'm presuming it's sudden death overtime in the 5 game qualifying series.
What type of overtime will the round robin teams be playing? Sudden death or 5 min OT then shootout.
What draft order will teams losing in the qualifying series take?
It will probably be sudden death for the play-in round.

i think the teams who failed to advance out of the play-in round will be put into the draft lottery but with modified odds of winning. Detroit who finished last may see slightly increased odds of winning the lottery.
 

superstar_88

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So round robin will be sudden death overtime. No shootouts.
Yes, draft lottery but the question is more say if a team like Edm loses to Chicago where are they drafting if they lose the lottery. By regular season pts/game standings? I think to be fair Edm should take over Chicago's draft position. They earned a playoff position more so than Chicago with their regular season play and to lose a playoff position to Chicago they at least should get their draft position. Chicago has very little to lose since they were pretty much out of the running otherwise and a whole lot to gain already.
 

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So round robin will be sudden death overtime. No shootouts.
Yes, draft lottery but the question is more say if a team like Edm loses to Chicago where are they drafting if they lose the lottery. By regular season pts/game standings? I think to be fair Edm should take over Chicago's draft position. They earned a playoff position more so than Chicago with their regular season play and to lose a playoff position to Chicago they at least should get their draft position. Chicago has very little to lose since they were pretty much out of the running otherwise and a whole lot to gain already.
I would think a team like Edmonton would fall into the draft lottery since they didn't make the playoffs after losing the play-in round but with small odds of winning. But hey its the Oilers we know their history of winning draft lotteries.
 

superstar_88

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Round robin games have shootouts. That's what I thought. No sense going sudden death for those.
Round 1 and 2 of playoffs may both be best of 5 on top of pre-lim. So only semi and finals best of 7. Don't like this one. All playoff series should be best of 7. But this won't finish until the Fall.
Draft will be regular season ranking for non playoff teams. Playoffs meaning 16 teams.
 

superstar_88

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The draft lottery is complicated. I have to listen to Bettman explain it again.
All pre-lim series losers will have same odds. They will do a lottery with placeholders for those pre-lim losing teams.
 
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